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SSJGSSJ Gogetto (after billion years training) Vs Pre Crisis Superman
Topic Started: Sep 8 2015, 01:29 PM (2,879 Views)
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A billion years...think about it... A billion years.


Now, think about it... A billion years... Can Goku or Vegeta live a billion years? Clearly not. Superman? Oh, yes.

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I don't care what pre crisis superman has done.


So... Basically you're saying Power estimation > Feats? <_<

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I give Pre-Crisis the Sword of Superman.


Now you're just being ridiculous. He's almost stronger than any other Superman with that stupid thing. He's basically God with it.
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Now you're just being ridiculous. He's almost stronger than any other Superman with that stupid thing. He's basically God with it.


Oh you come on you Doomy gloom. They're giving Gogetto a billion years of training in an infinite gravity machine. Something's gotta give somewhere.
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Sep 9 2015, 08:14 PM
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A billion years...think about it... A billion years.


Now, think about it... A billion years... Can Goku or Vegeta live a billion years? Clearly not. Superman? Oh, yes.

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I don't care what pre crisis superman has done.


So... Basically you're saying Power estimation > Feats? <_<

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I give Pre-Crisis the Sword of Superman.


Now you're just being ridiculous. He's almost stronger than any other Superman with that stupid thing. He's basically God with it.
Obviously they can't live for a billion years but this is hypothetical. Though we don't know what he will be capable of, it's safe to say that after a billion f***ing years he will wipe the floor with him.

Right now these guys are already light speed+ and tank solar system destroying energy beams like nothing. Probably nearing like moon level punches too. Now let them train for 100 years let alone a billion. Now have them fuse. Then take another pair and fuse them. Now fuse them. Then kiss the universe goodbye the second ssjgssj gogetto is formed
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Sep 9 2015, 09:51 PM
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A billion years...think about it... A billion years.


Now, think about it... A billion years... Can Goku or Vegeta live a billion years? Clearly not. Superman? Oh, yes.

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I don't care what pre crisis superman has done.


So... Basically you're saying Power estimation > Feats? <_<

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I give Pre-Crisis the Sword of Superman.


Now you're just being ridiculous. He's almost stronger than any other Superman with that stupid thing. He's basically God with it.
Obviously they can't live for a billion years but this is hypothetical. Though we don't know what he will be capable of, it's safe to say that after a billion f***ing years he will wipe the floor with him.

Right now these guys are already light speed+ and tank solar system destroying energy beams like nothing. Probably nearing like moon level punches too. Now let them train for 100 years let alone a billion. Now have them fuse. Then take another pair and fuse them. Now fuse them. Then kiss the universe goodbye the second ssjgssj gogetto is formed
Being MFTL is not the same as being fast enough to break the time barrier and then go into the past.
It's like flash vs me with the power gem, just because I can kill him in one hit doesn't mean I can hit him.

And once again, for the love of King Kai can someone just give hypothetical stats to compare?
Right now I'm with future protagonist, Superman wins by default virtue of having stats.
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Considering how much power Goku has gained in mere 50 years, and then going by the same increase for billion years, applying a potara boost + fusion boost into another potara boost, + SGSS huge multiplier should make you realize how hilariously powerful Gogetto would be.
Being said that, Gogetto isn't even necessary here: SA Superman beats himself because he is a horribly-written character.

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Sep 9 2015, 05:51 PM
Even if you have Gogetto as old as the universe, I don't think he wins unless he has reality breaking powers.
He wouldn't be omnipotent,omnipresent, and omniscient with training only.


Since when someone must be omnipotent, omnipresent and ominisicent in order to obliterate SA Superman? :rofl:
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Sep 9 2015, 10:10 PM
And once again, for the love of King Kai can someone just give hypothetical stats to compare?
He can blow up a really really big lot of stuffs!


A billion years hardly means a billion times stronger or anything...there are some limits that just can't be broken. Beerus and Whis are the most powerful things in the universe, he'd get past them and he'd just have nothing.
Doing push ups for a billion years wouldn't do much.

At best he could go further than Whis by having him and Beerus fuse, once he gets passed them he has no challenge what so ever. Gravity training would become a joke, he wouldn't be able to use Ki attacks as practice because he'd annihilate whatever galaxy he was in most likely.

If anything he'd start getting weaker after a certain point because he'd never be able to do anything to keep up with his immense power and we know power can drop drastically, as it did with Gohan.


Realistically though after a billion years he'd probably be like "...kill me....."


Gogetto x10,000 would probably be a better choice.
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So because he can go to the past, he can win? Cowardice from the boyscout lmao.

I don't know how strong this fusion can be but also including GT (since it has them at their oldest) they're plenty of hell strong. 100 years and a people believe his base is as strong as Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta (I think it's backed in the dub with saying Goku will always fight when there's darkness or something) so he has to at least surpass Omega alone.

A thousand, then boy could like destroy entire galaxy with a Kamehameha.
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Probably because Pre crisis superman is (almost) Omnipotent ?
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Sep 10 2015, 03:34 PM
Probably because Pre crisis superman is (almost) Omnipotent ?


Once again, he is not, he is also far from it.
SA Superman is just post-crisis with (many) more high-showings but also more low-showings as well.
Even with the Sword of Superman he isn't even close to be omnipotent so stop spreading misconceptions.
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Probably because Pre crisis superman is (almost) Omnipotent ?


Once again, he is not, he is also far from it.
SA Superman is just post-crisis with (many) more high-showings but also more low-showings as well.
Even with the Sword of Superman he isn't even close to be omnipotent so stop spreading misconceptions.
He is omnipotent, why wouldn't he be ?

Show me proof please.
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And once again, for the love of King Kai can someone just give hypothetical stats to compare?
He can blow up a really really big lot of stuffs!


A billion years hardly means a billion times stronger or anything...there are some limits that just can't be broken. Beerus and Whis are the most powerful things in the universe, he'd get past them and he'd just have nothing.
Doing push ups for a billion years wouldn't do much.

At best he could go further than Whis by having him and Beerus fuse, once he gets passed them he has no challenge what so ever. Gravity training would become a joke, he wouldn't be able to use Ki attacks as practice because he'd annihilate whatever galaxy he was in most likely.

If anything he'd start getting weaker after a certain point because he'd never be able to do anything to keep up with his immense power and we know power can drop drastically, as it did with Gohan.


Realistically though after a billion years he'd probably be like "...kill me....."


Gogetto x10,000 would probably be a better choice.
DragonBall always finds a way to surpass limits, take Buu Arc and EOZ for example. Between the CG and Buu Arc it was clear that the Z fighters were faced against a wall, there limits. Goku and Vegeta trained insanely for 7 yards and barely got like 2x stronger? Pitiful. And then there comes EOZ and suddenly both of them became SSJ3 tier in just there BASE forms. And no special method was specified at all, heck other world training is considered top and Goku did it.

Putting that aside 10.000 Gogeto wouldn't mean much, Superman would kill them all :p .
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Probably because Pre crisis superman is (almost) Omnipotent ?


Once again, he is not, he is also far from it.
SA Superman is just post-crisis with (many) more high-showings but also more low-showings as well.
Even with the Sword of Superman he isn't even close to be omnipotent so stop spreading misconceptions.
He is omnipotent, why wouldn't he be ?
Because he is Superman. Not Omnipotent Man. He's never shown signs of omnipotence.
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Making up new super powers is not omnipotence I'd like to add, he's had trails and problems and challenges he had to face.
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The most Pre-Crisis could ever get is omniscience, and that would require him absorbing the Sword of Superman and becoming something akin to a divine being, but it would also require him to not meddle in the affairs of mortals iirc. Although the Sword says it'll wait for him when he's ready. Either way, not omnipotence. Just a lot more power and he can tell what's going to happen before Gogetto even begins to have his neurons fire to begin the process of thinking of doing the move he'd do.
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