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Great Leviathan vs Zorc Necrophades
Topic Started: Sep 7 2015, 12:14 AM (3,944 Views)
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I want to favor Zorc, due to s***stomping the Egyptian Gods, but Leviathan had better feats against the BEUD
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One got stomped by the Egyptian Gods and the other stomped the Gods to the point they had to fuse.

This is the Yu-gi-oh equivalent off Kid Buu vs Janemaba.
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Zorc beat the Egyptian Gods with his magical horse manure, while the Leviathan got beat by them with Atem cheering them on.
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But Zorc was also knocked on his a*** and wounded by BEUD, whilst Leviathan laughed off BEUD plus a ton of other monsters attacking it
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I think there's a bit of misconception about this subject. It's true that Leviathan lost to the 3 Egyptian God's but Atem was able to turn Leviathan's dark energy into the God's light energy and added to them, a power which "fuels his beasts now" as he said, basically the God's were powered up from there original state.

Also you have to remember how Leviathan was born. He already had the power of the 3 Egyptian God's when Dartz added them to his beast. Basically Leviathan was composed of the 3 God's and also millions of souls.

I say Leviathan wins given that as well as him stomping the heck out of BEUD.
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That line was dub only. In the subs, Yami just says they won't be beaten by the darkness in their hearts. Yami only took the light from the people inside the Great Leviathan, not the darkness. Great Leviathan wasn't weakened by that, all that taking the light did was give the Pharoah enough of a jumpstart to summon the gods to begin with.
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So there was no power boost from the light Atem received though? The God's had no energy left to even be summoned. Well I guess I'll have to go and watch the complete scene again in sub.
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I'm not sure. So far as I can tell, all that power did was give Atem the power to summon the gods in the first place.

To make matters worse, Zorc says that a single Blue Eyes White Dragon possesses power equal to the gods, nevermind the Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon. So we're left with a chain that goes as such

Zorc>=Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon>Gods=Blue Eyes White Dragon>Great Leviathan>Blue Eyes Ultimate Dragon>Blue Eyes White Dragon=Gods

You can see the inherent problems arising in it.
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I was recently watching those battles too and found some odd s***. Mind you, this was the dub, so statements could be completely different in the sub.

- Obelisk and Diabound were stated to be equal, though keep in mind this was after Diabound had acquired BEWD's power. Without that added power, Bakura stated Diabound would've been destroyed.

- Slifer was holding its own against a stronger Diabound and even had the advantage in the sky until the latter turned invisible. After the stalemate, Slifer was poised to win (or at least that's the impression I got) but one of the Pharaoh's servants shoved a sword into its tablet, stunning it and allowing Diabound's attack to decapitate it.

- Exodia was shown going toe to toe with Zorc, and was initially stated to be just as strong as Zorc by Priest Seto, but due to Grandpa Moto's weak life force and Zorc's shadow ability to turn things to stone, Zorc was able to overpower Exodia and win.

- Priest Seto's BEWD (Kisara) was able to knock Zorc down but its first blast, although able to temporarily bring back the sun, was completely ineffective. Zorc's dick brought down BEWD with ease. Seto's BEUD's Neutron Blast Attack knocked Zorc a mile away and angered him. Zorc's fireball and BEUD's blast stalemated ("the ultimate collision between light and shadow"), but Zorc was able to push forward somewhat. BEUD was stated to be "holding its own" by the DMG. Dragon Master Knight's blast easily overpowered Zorc's fireball but only managed to push Zorc back in its big explosion (which destroyed BEUD and weakened the Pharaoh).
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- Obelisk and Diabound were stated to be equal, though keep in mind this was after Diabound had acquired BEWD's power. Without that added power, Bakura stated Diabound would've been destroyed.

This is in the sub as well
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- Slifer was holding its own against a stronger Diabound and even had the advantage in the sky until the latter turned invisible. After the stalemate, Slifer was poised to win (or at least that's the impression I got) but one of the Pharaoh's servants shoved a sword into its tablet, stunning it and allowing Diabound's attack to decapitate it.

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- Exodia was shown going toe to toe with Zorc, and was initially stated to be just as strong as Zorc by Priest Seto, but due to Grandpa Moto's weak life force and Zorc's shadow ability to turn things to stone, Zorc was able to overpower Exodia and win.

Yup, completely even. Zorc tore off Exodia's arm and Exodia tore off Zorc's arm. Only problem was Exodia's stamina, not Zorc's power
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- Priest Seto's BEWD (Kisara) was able to knock Zorc down but its first blast, although able to temporarily bring back the sun, was completely ineffective. Zorc's dick brought down BEWD with ease.

A lot worse in the sub. BEWD manages to actually tear Zorc's arm off with the blast that brought back the Sun. Of course, Zorc quickly regenerated his arm and then ripped off the Blue Eyes White Dragon's head(in the dub, he doesn't lose his arm and just stones the dragon)
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Seto's BEUD's Neutron Blast Attack knocked Zorc a mile away and angered him. Zorc's fireball and BEUD's blast stalemated ("the ultimate collision between light and shadow"), but Zorc was able to push forward somewhat. BEUD was stated to be "holding its own" by the DMG. Dragon Master Knight's blast easily overpowered Zorc's fireball but only managed to push Zorc back in its big explosion (which destroyed BEUD and weakened the Pharaoh).

Yes, that's the same in the subs.

The power of the Blue Eyes is the problem here. It's all over the place.
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So basically Blue-Eyes is inconsistent and ruins everything about those fights. Damn.

I can't figure this out right now. Zorc sounds like the bigger challenge.
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Card BEWD is weaker than real BEWD. Real BEWD also has a type advantage that the gods didn't poses over Zork.
Light and Shadow counteract each other where with the gods their were just using raw power against Zork.

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That...that theory actually does help out quite a bit. Granted, Zorc's comment about the Blue Eyes having power equal to the godS(plural) is still wonky, but that just could be some awkward subtitling.
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I find it impossible that Phoenix Mode Ra would be equal to BEWD, type advantage or not.
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