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Gigan VS Megalon
Topic Started: Sep 5 2015, 12:50 AM (399 Views)
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"I am the bone of my sword."

It's been a while since I've seen either movies with them in their original Show counterparts and I do have a sort of soft spot for Gigan despite how stupid he looks in Showa. I just thought he was one of the more unique Kaiju's at the time. Especially when our last Kaiju was a literal walking piece of s***. Not that I really have anything against Hedorah either.

Both are similar in speed and strength it seems, with maybe Gigan having more reflexive/agility advantages and Megalon having a bit more straight up firepower on his part. We both know that Gigan has his own projectile, but perhaps due to budget or whatever, never used it all that much. In fact I'm not sure if he ever actually uses it in the fight. Meanwhile Megalon has shown to be able to constantly shoot constant blasts.

in terms of direct combat, again been a while since I've seen either movie, I may have to give the overall advantage to Gigan. They're pretty much equal but give the advantage to a guy who puts a buzzsaw on his belly. It kind of helps to give some advantage in close quarter combat.

But the thing that probably seals the deal overall for Megalon's victory is mobility. Both him and Gigan on the ground probably have the same level of mobility but along with whatever Gigan can do mobile wise to a degree, Megalon also has the good effect of moving when and where he wants underground as well. It allows for a few more options on Megalon's part that honestly seals the deal for him after a very rough and brutal battle.

Their speed, strength, projectiles (arguably) flight and stuff are more or less equal but Megalon gets that one aspect above that would push him to victory.

Oh and IIRC, Megalon does have more projectiles under his belt as well. His mouth blasts and the cannon blasts from his head.
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Sep 5 2015, 01:01 AM
It's been a while since I've seen either movies with them in their original Show counterparts and I do have a sort of soft spot for Gigan despite how stupid he looks in Showa. I just thought he was one of the more unique Kaiju's at the time. Especially when our last Kaiju was a literal walking piece of s***. Not that I really have anything against Hedorah either.

Both are similar in speed and strength it seems, with maybe Gigan having more reflexive/agility advantages and Megalon having a bit more straight up firepower on his part. We both know that Gigan has his own projectile, but perhaps due to budget or whatever, never used it all that much. In fact I'm not sure if he ever actually uses it in the fight. Meanwhile Megalon has shown to be able to constantly shoot constant blasts.

in terms of direct combat, again been a while since I've seen either movie, I may have to give the overall advantage to Gigan. They're pretty much equal but give the advantage to a guy who puts a buzzsaw on his belly. It kind of helps to give some advantage in close quarter combat.

But the thing that probably seals the deal overall for Megalon's victory is mobility. Both him and Gigan on the ground probably have the same level of mobility but along with whatever Gigan can do mobile wise to a degree, Megalon also has the good effect of moving when and where he wants underground as well. It allows for a few more options on Megalon's part that honestly seals the deal for him after a very rough and brutal battle.

Their speed, strength, projectiles (arguably) flight and stuff are more or less equal but Megalon gets that one aspect above that would push him to victory.

Oh and IIRC, Megalon does have more projectiles under his belt as well. His mouth blasts and the cannon blasts from his head.
You would be correct, except that Megalon is a complete idiot.

His horn beams were barely used against kaiju and were aimed mostly at tanks. Even when he fired at kaiju, he always aimed for their feet. His napalm bombs are absolute s***, to the point where JJ could pick on up and lob it right back at him. He never digs in combat and his best use of flight is spinning in circles and hoping his opponent is stupid enough to get dizzy from that. Megalon's drills are also never spun in combat, effectively making them nothing more than objects of blunt force, whilst Gigan can actually pierce things with his claws.

This guy is so incompetent that JJ, a robot with no beams to speak of, was kicking his a*** so badly that that Gigan needed to basically carry the team.

If Megalon was actually smart, then yes, he would win because his horn beams are really powerful, his jumps are powerful, and he can dig. Unfortunately, he uses his beam in the worst of ways, he jumps around with no rhyme or reason, and he never digs in combat.

Gigan is leagues more competent, actually using his flybys in order to use his buzzsaw effectively(it's useless on the ground unless an enemy runs face first into his chest, which admittedly is possible here given Megalon's idiocy). Gigan can also actually attack in the air, whilst Megalon's aerial abilities are severely lacking. Gigan's beam was only in posters, but he doesn't need one to take down the equivalent of a handicapped four year old driving a tank.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

I"ll take your word for that then. It has been...well over a decade since I saw either movie.
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Both films are on hulu for free, if you want to watch
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"I am the bone of my sword."

I may just do that. I loved Godzilla, both the Showa and Heisei era the most as a kid and though its a bad movie overall, Godzilla vs Gigan still has a soft spot for me in my heart.
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Sep 5 2015, 01:45 AM
I may just do that. I loved Godzilla, both the Showa and Heisei era the most as a kid and though its a bad movie overall, Godzilla vs Gigan still has a soft spot for me in my heart.
Yep, just skip the human parts, and the late Showa movies are very good. The Heisei movies got better at making you invested in the human characters.

EDIT 1: I am in fact rewatching now in order to get a better feel for Megalon. Megalon does in fact dig in combat, but the most he did was poke JJ's foot and make him fall before digging underground again. He then missed his next strike and proceeded to get pulled out of the ground. Also, he stood there with a blank expression when JJ first showed up, didn't even try to defend himself before JJ slugged him in the face. Megalon's ineptitude is really what kills him in versus matches.

EDIT 2: He didn't even think to use the Napalm Bomb without Gigan coaching him

EDIT 3: At least Gigan could somewhat grapple Godzilla in close range, even if he ultimately got koed. Megalon, on the other hand, got bodied every time he tried close combat against Godzilla(and JJ too). Megalon showed the ability to play possum along with Gigan, but unlike Gigan, he f***ed up. When Gigan plays possum, he gets up and knocks Godzilla flat on his a***. When Megalon plays possum, he somehow misses a still target at point blank range with his napalm, allowing JJ to pick it up and toss it right back.

EDIT 4: Gigan's loop-de-loop is very effective, it would work wonders on Megalon. Megalon isn't accurate enough to shoot him down without a fluke

EDIT 5: Megalon takes hits like a pussy. When he gets hit, he flies off the handle and starts squealing wildly as he faceplants.

EDIT 6: Megalon got wrecked when he tried to fight JJ. When Gigan fought him, he holds him hostage.

EDIT 7: Megalon thinks that forming a ring of fire around Godzilla and JJ, despite having seen JJ fly, is a good idea. He finds this a better idea than actually aiming his napalm bombs at them. That trick wouldn't actually work against Gigan either, as he can fly

EDIT 8: Megalon shot a napalm bomb at Godzilla, point blank again. This time he hit him...but it didn't explode, causing it to fly back into his own mouth. That's another thing, the napalm bombs have duds.

EDIT 9: Final edit, Megalon actually never used the horn beam in combat.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

So essentially, Megalon is Showa's biggest piece of worthlessness on here.
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Sep 5 2015, 06:11 AM
So essentially, Megalon is Showa's biggest piece of worthlessness on here.
Well, at least he doesn't suck as much as the Giant Condor.
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Sep 5 2015, 06:11 AM
So essentially, Megalon is Showa's biggest piece of worthlessness on here.
Well no. He's tougher then Showa Kamacuras, Showa Baragon, Gabara, Minya, Mothra Larvae, and...okay, yeah, he's pretty s***ty.

If he's being told what to do by someone competent, he's actually quite powerful. I'd probably give him a nod over the likes of King Ghidorah, in fact. The problem is that Megalon by himself has absolutely no tactical sense. Hence why his nickname in the old kaiju forums was the blindfolded four year old driving a tank.
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