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Dracula(Untold) vs Rogue Titan
Topic Started: Sep 3 2015, 08:01 PM (236 Views)
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Dracula as seen in Dracula Untold takes on Eren Jaeger, the Rogue Titan.

If Dracula stomps, Eren gets his non-canon flaming mode. If Eren stomps, Dracula gets his army of thralls
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Eren I think can win with stamina and speed, while Dracula is powerful in that form I don't see him getting at the weak spot before Eren managed to crush him with his speed and size.
While Dracula is gonna be really annoying to take down with his own abilities, I just don't see him managing a victory against Eren in that form. His speed will likely catch Dracula off guard, even if he's fast, he will not likely expect it. Though if he can figure out his weakness and dodge the assaults, he could get to Eren and take him out with his myriad abilities.
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How is Eren's speed and stamina going to help when he's slower and has less stamina than Dracula? Eren is completely exhausted after a couple of minutes brawling Annie, Dracula cuts through armies and isn't even out of breath.

How will Eren handle the giant bat fists? He doesn't exactly take hits very well
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How is Eren's speed and stamina going to help when he's slower and has less stamina than Dracula? Eren is completely exhausted after a couple of minutes brawling Annie, Dracula cuts through armies and isn't even out of breath.

How will Eren handle the giant bat fists? He doesn't exactly take hits very well

Well I'm thinking he's faster than a giant like him as m has any right to be, and could likely trip up Dracula that way. He's moving at least as fast as a regular human. Faster most likely. Though yes if Dracula dodges the first barrage he'll fare much better.

Stamina I'm more referring to his ability to take and then regenerate pain rather than straight durability, he doesn't care of his jaw gets chopped off, he'll keep fighting regardless and can heal it back. Granted yes he doesn't, but there is a fair difference between cannons and him slamming his fist into the trees and the bat swam. They fly by and bite...and also somehow cause people and horses to fly, that big fist might be dangerous, but from what I could tell, it didn't actually create a shockwave, that was just bats flying everywhere, and even if it did he still has to get enough bats into "formation" first.

In any case he's still fairly agile and fast, more so than the swarm, and honestly faster than Dracula when he's not transformed into bats (he's probably faster as bats though, which he uses allot in combat), and could possibly beeline for Dracula, forcing him to move considering he needs big gestures to control the bats if he isn't just flying.

Dracula needs to use his ability and realize the Titans weak spot before he can really win. While Eren has the much simpler win condition, which is to manage to squish Dracula. I'm willing to bet of he can catch him at the right time, or even crush a good portion of his bats (that is the bats he uses to fly around), he can win, and he's fast enough to force Dracula to use that ability. While this is close, I feel Eren can eck out a win before Dracula can find and exploit the neck nape weakness. His weapons as well are doubtful to have much effect unless he directly goes for the more dangerous portions of his body. Maybe sometimes his sword ,though iirc he mostly used that as a human, not a vampire.
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Well I'm thinking he's faster than a giant like him as m has any right to be, and could likely trip up Dracula that way. He's moving at least as fast as a regular human. Faster most likely. Though yes if Dracula dodges the first barrage he'll fare much better.

Eren isn't faster than Dracula, who's got enough speed to blitz through an army. I get that they were mooks, but he was entirely untouched by the end of his slaughter fest. That's some great speed, and his small size makes him a harder target
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Stamina I'm more referring to his ability to take and then regenerate pain rather than straight durability, he doesn't care of his jaw gets chopped off, he'll keep fighting regardless and can heal it back. Granted yes he doesn't, but there is a fair difference between cannons and him slamming his fist into the trees and the bat swam. They fly by and bite...and also somehow cause people and horses to fly, that big fist might be dangerous, but from what I could tell, it didn't actually create a shockwave, that was just bats flying everywhere, and even if it did he still has to get enough bats into "formation" first.

But his regen can't help him if his stamina kills him first. When his head got torn off by Annie, he was completely done for. Hell, he stopped regenerating just from enough regular Titans taking bites out of him. Dracula could probably kite him for five minutes and Eren would be completely out of steam from jumping around like a berserker.
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I see Turkish bodies flying, there was definitely a shockwave. Unless you're implying that the bats are just strong enough to grab men and horses with their little claws and throw them into the air. If it's the shockwave, then he's going to be slapping Eren around. If it's the super bats, he could probably strip the flesh from Eren
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In any case he's still fairly agile and fast, more so than the swarm, and honestly faster than Dracula when he's not transformed into bats (he's probably faster as bats though, which he uses allot in combat), and could possibly beeline for Dracula, forcing him to move considering he needs big gestures to control the bats if he isn't just flying.

If Eren bothered to dodge things, that would be a good point. But he doesn't. He charges into battle flailing wildly. His only skill lies in hand to hand with similarly sized humanoids, and even then he's not too good. He's not good enough to instantly recognize the threat of the bats and if he gets hit once, he's going to get comboed repeatedly. Also, it's likely Eren would be distracted by the bats to begin with. They're flying at his face level and he's going to be focusing on swiping them off, not realizing that it's forming a giant fist to smack him with

I have my doubts about Eren being faster than Dracula, he missed Mikasa when she was at point blank range. I know Mikasa is fast, but if she can do that, I think Dracula can mimic that.
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Dracula needs to use his ability and realize the Titans weak spot before he can really win. While Eren has the much simpler win condition, which is to manage to squish Dracula. I'm willing to bet of he can catch him at the right time, or even crush a good portion of his bats (that is the bats he uses to fly around), he can win, and he's fast enough to force Dracula to use that ability. While this is close, I feel Eren can eck out a win before Dracula can find and exploit the neck nape weakness. His weapons as well are doubtful to have much effect unless he directly goes for the more dangerous portions of his body. Maybe sometimes his sword ,though iirc he mostly used that as a human, not a vampire.

Dracula just needs to fight for a couple of minutes and then Eren knocks himself out. Dracula doesn't tire, Eren on the other hand, fatigues extremely easily for a regenerator.
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Well I'm thinking he's faster than a giant like him as m has any right to be, and could likely trip up Dracula that way. He's moving at least as fast as a regular human. Faster most likely. Though yes if Dracula dodges the first barrage he'll fare much better.

Eren isn't faster than Dracula, who's got enough speed to blitz through an army. I get that they were mooks, but he was entirely untouched by the end of his slaughter fest. That's some great speed, and his small size makes him a harder target
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Stamina I'm more referring to his ability to take and then regenerate pain rather than straight durability, he doesn't care of his jaw gets chopped off, he'll keep fighting regardless and can heal it back. Granted yes he doesn't, but there is a fair difference between cannons and him slamming his fist into the trees and the bat swam. They fly by and bite...and also somehow cause people and horses to fly, that big fist might be dangerous, but from what I could tell, it didn't actually create a shockwave, that was just bats flying everywhere, and even if it did he still has to get enough bats into "formation" first.

But his regen can't help him if his stamina kills him first. When his head got torn off by Annie, he was completely done for. Hell, he stopped regenerating just from enough regular Titans taking bites out of him. Dracula could probably kite him for five minutes and Eren would be completely out of steam from jumping around like a berserker.
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I see Turkish bodies flying, there was definitely a shockwave. Unless you're implying that the bats are just strong enough to grab men and horses with their little claws and throw them into the air. If it's the shockwave, then he's going to be slapping Eren around. If it's the super bats, he could probably strip the flesh from Eren
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In any case he's still fairly agile and fast, more so than the swarm, and honestly faster than Dracula when he's not transformed into bats (he's probably faster as bats though, which he uses allot in combat), and could possibly beeline for Dracula, forcing him to move considering he needs big gestures to control the bats if he isn't just flying.

If Eren bothered to dodge things, that would be a good point. But he doesn't. He charges into battle flailing wildly. His only skill lies in hand to hand with similarly sized humanoids, and even then he's not too good. He's not good enough to instantly recognize the threat of the bats and if he gets hit once, he's going to get comboed repeatedly. Also, it's likely Eren would be distracted by the bats to begin with. They're flying at his face level and he's going to be focusing on swiping them off, not realizing that it's forming a giant fist to smack him with

I have my doubts about Eren being faster than Dracula, he missed Mikasa when she was at point blank range. I know Mikasa is fast, but if she can do that, I think Dracula can mimic that.
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Dracula needs to use his ability and realize the Titans weak spot before he can really win. While Eren has the much simpler win condition, which is to manage to squish Dracula. I'm willing to bet of he can catch him at the right time, or even crush a good portion of his bats (that is the bats he uses to fly around), he can win, and he's fast enough to force Dracula to use that ability. While this is close, I feel Eren can eck out a win before Dracula can find and exploit the neck nape weakness. His weapons as well are doubtful to have much effect unless he directly goes for the more dangerous portions of his body. Maybe sometimes his sword ,though iirc he mostly used that as a human, not a vampire.

Dracula just needs to fight for a couple of minutes and then Eren knocks himself out. Dracula doesn't tire, Eren on the other hand, fatigues extremely easily for a regenerator.
Fair enough, though I will say that's probably die to his bat transformation rather than his speed as a human.

In that fight he began that with a current of bats that sent horses and men flying. I want to say super bats :rofl: but I think the idea is that is the volume of bats is bringing people into the air, Heck after the initial wave they don't flip over people and horses people just fall over, they flew mostly from a sea of bats going over them rather than a shockwave. Admittedly it took me like 4 watches to take that from it, mostly because of the bats at the end of the shot (like not even a second after the gif ends). To be that means they flew right through the army. Even if it's still the same effect he still needs to group them together, which took a while, basically prep time, not much, like an hour or less but still prep time that he used to kill the army as quick as he did. And again, nothing less than the bat fist will effect him... Unless they go for the eyes I'd imagine.
Fair enough on that he might not realize the danger, but he still needs to group them together, Eren is gonna attack and Dracula is gonna have to react unless he wants to become Dracusplat. And if he's not he's still gonna kill allot of bats if they're in his face while forming. Dracula simply won't have time to form the bat fist without prep time.

With the bats transformation you're right, he's probably fast enough to dodge.

But yeah, fair enough, if Eren injures himself too much he'll probably end up knocking himself out. Rather anticlimactic but now that I think about it that's probably the most likely result.
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