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| Do you have sympathy for victims of scams? | |
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| * Mitas | Sep 1 2015, 07:05 PM Post #1 |
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There was a story on the news today about somebody who had their details passed around scam artists who would constantly contact them in order to try and take their money. I can't remember whether the person actually ended up being scammed or not, but it made me think to myself, if a person gets scammed, is it their own fault for being gullible/looking for fast cash? Or do they deserve sympathy? Example: Those e-mails that ask for your bank details in order to transfer large sums of money. Somebody actually goes through with it, gives their bank details to the person and subsequently has all their money taken. Just one example, but yeah, would you sympathise with that person? Or do you feel that they should have known better? |
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| + Pelador | Sep 1 2015, 07:15 PM Post #2 |
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I find it hard to sympathise to be honest. But then my dad has learning difficulties and recently got scammed. So in that case I can. But when you would think they are otherwise all there mentally then I do not. |
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| * Mitas | Sep 1 2015, 07:24 PM Post #3 |
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Yeah, I would sympathise with those with mental health difficulties that can affect their judgement/decision-making abilities. I can't extend that to those who are overlooking common sense in favour of trying to make a quick buck. |
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"Then you've got the chance to do better next time." "Next time?" "Course. Doing better next time. That's what life is." | |
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| EMIYA | Sep 1 2015, 07:41 PM Post #4 |
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The thing is, a real, good scam artist can swindle even the best of people. They come off as trustworthy and friendly and they build up that trust to ultimately scam the person. I remember watching some kind of documentary about scams such as this. Honestly, most people won't fall for this kind of blatant scam other than maybe desperation. But as I said, a real good scam artist knows how to really tangle with words and get the most out of the victim. It goes well beyond just asking for your bank account or something, it can get deep. I'd would say its under a similar light of cults and stuff. We, who have never been under the pressure of scams or cults may find it incredibly difficult to think that anyone could follow a cult unless their mentally disturbed. Yet evidence upon evidence shows that the vast majority of people who follow cults are very mentally sound with little to no problems in their state. Another, very cliche but easy to use evidence is the entire thing with Germany in World War II. Germany was not a third world country, people in Germany were not stupid and yet one of the most influential first world countries turned into a killing machine. The main thing is that, there's a lot more to these kind of things than people realize and for the most part, we who have never had to face them, may not understand the concept of why people fall victim. |
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| + Steve | Sep 1 2015, 08:04 PM Post #5 |
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If it's for pure personal gain then I don't really sympathize unless they really shouldn't know better. But if it's from donating to a fake charity then yes, they were trying to help even if donating money is very impersonal and they might not have cared at all in the long run it still would have helped but a lot of charity things are either scams or the money goes nowhere. A lot of charity aid in Africa gets stolen by warlords and whatnot so what you're donating might help those who don't deserve it. Obviously that's a bit different to being scammed but still. But yes anyone who's been on the internet for more than 5 minutes and has no learning difficulties should get that "YOU ARE OUR 1,000,000TH VISITOR, CLICK HERE TO CLAIM YOUR $100,000 PRIZE" is utter nonsense. |
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| Meowth | Sep 1 2015, 08:12 PM Post #6 |
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Depends on the person and the scam, the really obvious scams like the links in messages on Facebook or somewhere similar, then people should really know better because the warnings are plastered everywhere and it's often the users fault for falling for them. For those, I don't think a disability really factors in, maybe on the very rare occasion, but usually it's user error. When it comes to scams like that mentioned in the news, I have sympathy for those who have a disability of some form, scammers over the phone and in person take advantage of the vulnerable. There are people who are just stupid because they can't be bothered to engage their brain, for those people, I have no sympathy. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. I know the concept of scams to a degree, I know how to do some as well, though I never would because I have morals. It's all about language and presentation, pressure is good in the sense that someone just wants to get rid of you, so they pay you. But you can also act like a friend to someone, possibly the ugliest of methods, but one used even down to social circles, I'm sure everyone has been betrayed or betrayed a friend, it's not much different. No once can say they can never be scammed because they can, everyone has a weakness that can be exploited, but those are the clever scams, picking on the vulnerable is not a clever scam, it's easy and gets results quick, that's about it. If someone of sound mind falls for a phone call about a lottery they have won but never entered, that's their silly fault... |
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Sep 1 2015, 10:21 PM Post #7 |
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No, I don't. |
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Sep 1 2015, 10:35 PM Post #8 |
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Sep 1 2015, 10:38 PM Post #9 |
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Keyboard Warriors, Everywhere.
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People replying to 'no I don't etc probably haven't been scammed before. I am not einstein by any means but I would say I am above average intelligence and have nothing ''wrong'' with me. I have been scammed on video games for everything I own, had my bank account accessed by a bad transaction, bough stuff online and it's never come, even from sites like Ebay etc and never got a refund / the item. You don't have to have something mentally wrong with you or be stupid to get scammed, and saying you don't pity people who get scammed even if you think their dumb just makes you sound like a douche to be honest. It happens to the best of us. |
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Keyboard Warrior 1. A Person who, being unable to express his anger through physical violence (owning to their physical weakness, lack of bravery and/or conviction in real life), instead manifests said emotions through the text-based medium of the internet, usually in the form of aggressive writing that the Keyboard Warrior would not (for reasons previously mentioned) be able to give form to in real life. 2. Keyboard Warriors are generally identified by unneccessary rage in their written communications, and are regarded as 'losers' by other virtual identities on the internet. | |
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| Zoom | Sep 4 2015, 10:18 AM Post #10 |
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It depends on who gets scammed. If it's someone like in our age period that understands the digital age, sorry but tough luck, but if it's like someone's mom or grand mother who doesn't understand how scams works, and yes I fell sorry because I've watched someone that got scammed and lost their life savings. |
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| Buuberries | Sep 4 2015, 05:45 PM Post #11 |
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No
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fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. tl;dr: no |
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| Ding | Sep 4 2015, 05:46 PM Post #12 |
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Only if the victim is elderly or mentally retarded. I don't look down on people who get scammed however, no sympathy. Edited by Ding, Sep 4 2015, 05:48 PM.
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| Tinny | Sep 4 2015, 06:08 PM Post #13 |
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Yeah, I figure if they should have known better, they would have. like it's gotta be very select, like you pay $40000 to have a hit-man kill someone, and they run off with your credit card number, you kind of deserve it, but that's an obvious outlier. |
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