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Super Episode 8 Discussion
Topic Started: Aug 30 2015, 12:46 AM (13,326 Views)
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I'll give my thoughts on the Episode later, but I have to ask. Am I the only one who liked the Pilaf Gang and the Beerus/Oolong scenes?

I mean, for all the times people complain about the non-Sayians never being given the spotlight or most of the cast being shoved in a corner, I thought it was fun to see Oolong(who has done nothing important since the earliest arcs of Dragon Ball) get his brief moment to shine.

I understand people are chomping at the bit to get to the fight between Beerus and Super Sayian God Goku, I can't wait for it either. But I am happy they kept Oolong vs Beerus in Super, since it was one of my favorite scenes from Battle of the Gods.

Seeing the Pilaf Gang and Oolong vs Beerus kinda reminds me of the tone of early Dragon Ball.

We're likely going to get at least 3 or 4 episodes of Beerus vs Super Sayian God Goku, so everyone who wants to see a major fight will get what they want.

Overall, I enjoyed this episode. Its nice to see they kept some of the humor from Battle of the Gods.

Edited by caryslan, Aug 30 2015, 06:49 PM.
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I mean, for all the times people complain about the non-Sayians never being given the spotlight or most of the cast being shoved in a corner, I thought it was fun to see Oolong(who has done nothing important since the earliest arcs of Dragon Ball) get his brief moment to shine.

When people say that, they're usually referring to folks like Yamcha, Kuririn, and Tenshinhan, at least in my experience. That said, the focus on Oolong isn't the problem. The problem was that half the episode was devoted to what was originally a very short gag. Had they devoted like a minute or 2 to this exchange between Oolong and Beerus, I'm sure people wouldn't be complaining.
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The main problem is that Super clearly isn't trying to be like old Dragon Ball, it's also really OOC for Beerus, who until now has been an entirely sinister threat. Pacing is also bad, like you could extend the fight scenes for the z fighters instead of just having them all be downed in one go.
Pilaf is just going nowhere, clear filler.
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How else are they going to stretch a 1 hr 41 minute movie into a good ten anime episodes? You can't seriously be asking for them to come up with something new, can you?
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Aug 30 2015, 06:58 PM
How else are they going to stretch a 1 hr 41 minute movie into a good ten anime episodes? You can't seriously be asking for them to come up with something new, can you?
It's still excruciatingly painful. There's no reason for them to be so long, especially since we already saw this whole business in BOG.
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I think he's being sarcastic :p
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"I am the bone of my sword."

The comedy here is almost exactly like it is in the Boo Arc.

Let's take a very serious, little nonsense villain who has clearly f***ed up more than enough people to have everyone peeing themselves. (Beerus and Super Boo)

And then let's throw some stupid character and force them into painful gag scenes that these serious villains are suddenly forced to partake in. (Oolong and Gotenks)

There is a reason you separate the comedy from the drama. Right now, this is not a comedy. This is not Goku and Piccolo driving or Goku being hit with a rock. This is where your entire world is about to be obliterated, take it seriously series. I've made this point before, but imagine if Kid Gohan started doing gag scenes suddenly when fighting Cell.

It would look horrible. It would contrast horribly with what is supposed to be some serious moments in the series.
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I kinda liked this episode, it had the first good fight.
Vegeta was better here than in BoG.

The scene with Oolong, I admit was an ok idea.but was poorly executed(too slow for my taste).

Anyway, i'd give it a score of 7/10.
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Meh, I've decided to assume SSJ3 Vegetto is stronger than Beerus and Whis. The only prerequisite for Beerus is that he's stronger than anyone up to this point. I honestly don't think the Potara are even a factor:

Vegeta(Enraged): 0.5

Beerus: 10
-10%: 1

Goku: 6

Whis: 15

Vegetto: 0.08
-SSJ: 4
-SSJ2: 8
-SSJ3: 32
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You can tiptoe around Vegetto being weaker than the Beerus that Goku fought. For example you can assume that Goku simply took Kaio a little more seriously now with his "Beerus is the strongest in the universe, there's no way you can beat him" line. He ignored that once and look where it got him.

As for the episode, I have the same thoughts as most people, the Oolong part went on waaaaay too long, and the Pilaf part seemed pointless. Best case scenario is they go back to the ship, in which case the clip of them leaving was pointless, worst case is they actually leave and don't come back, in which case their entire role in the last few eps was pointless.

Vegeta vs Beerus was fun, I enjoyed it much more than in BoG. The Oolong scene was a fun idea, and while it dragged on, it was sprinkled with some funny moments.
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The episode screws with canon so badly. It made me very sad.

As much as 1/10th of Beerus' full power is necessary to take down an enraged SSj2 Vegeta? SSj2 Vegeta has to be considerably stronger than SSj3 Goku in that case, which is fine I guess. But that makes him even stronger than Ultimate Gohan, which is not ok. Not to mention it makes Vegetto very unremarkable and much closer to the divine tier than we had thought - hardly giving room for him being weaker than Beerus at SSj3.

It would mean we have to seriously re-evaluate what we think about Ultimate Gohan's power. And it's not cool at all.
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Interesting to see that we haven't had any comment about Beerus' destructive capabilities (as Tin Man said earlier, iirc) or a comment about fusion not being enough to beat Beerus.
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Meh, Vegeta being stronger than Gohan here doesn't bother me since this isn't a typical rage boost. It's something very clearly different.
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or a comment about fusion not being enough to beat Beerus.

Oh we have:
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Episode: 5
Context: After Goku regains consciousness following his fight with Beerus.
Goku: “This ain’t good. The only way to get stronger would be to merge with Vegeta…and even then, I don’t think I could win.”
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Aug 31 2015, 04:26 PM
The episode screws with canon so badly. It made me very sad.

As much as 1/10th of Beerus' full power is necessary to take down an enraged SSj2 Vegeta? SSj2 Vegeta has to be considerably stronger than SSj3 Goku in that case, which is fine I guess. But that makes him even stronger than Ultimate Gohan, which is not ok.

It would mean we have to seriously re-evaluate what we think about Ultimate Gohan's power. And it's not cool at all.
If you can just accept that AT has forgotten power relations, then you don't need to reevaluate anything.

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I honestly think that is an absurd argument. If this is supposed to a continuation of Toriyama's story, we sorta have to reevaluate our positions.
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