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Super Episode 8 Discussion
Topic Started: Aug 30 2015, 12:46 AM (13,327 Views)
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It's mostly due to the fact that Vegetto was said to potentially be stronger (or maybe it was as strong) as a SSJ4 and I have Beerus being leagues above Vegetto. The only ones I'd have close to Beerus in GT are Omega Shenron and SSJ4 Gogeta.
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Question, do you think it's reasonable to assume as long as Vegeta forced Beerus to use more than 1% of his power, it'd be a fine placement? In other words, would this be reasonable:

Vegeta: 1

Beerus: 100
-10%: 10

I mean, it's clear Beerus is still a fair bit stronger than Vegeta here.
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Aug 30 2015, 03:26 PM
Question, do you think it's reasonable to assume as long as Vegeta forced Beerus to use more than 1% of his power, it'd be a fine placement? In other words, would this be reasonable:

Vegeta: 1

Beerus: 100
-10%: 10

I mean, it's clear Beerus is still a fair bit stronger than Vegeta here.
WHAT???

Bills is like 10x stronger than Vegeta like that.

Unless I'm missing something.
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Sure, Vegeta got a few hits in, but they didn't do anything.
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Aug 30 2015, 03:37 PM
Sure, Vegeta got a few hits in, but they didn't do anything.
But 10x seems like a lot.

Bills made it sound like he had to use 10% to stay ahead as much as he was. If he could do the same thing even if he was using even 2%, wouldn't that make the 10% statement pointless?
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Aug 30 2015, 03:50 PM
ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
Aug 30 2015, 03:37 PM
Sure, Vegeta got a few hits in, but they didn't do anything.
But 10x seems like a lot.

Bills made it sound like he had to use 10% to stay ahead as much as he was. If he could do the same thing even if he was using even 2%, wouldn't that make the 10% statement pointless?
Oh I agree, but I don't want to make Vegeta too strong :lol: .
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Aug 30 2015, 03:55 PM
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ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
Aug 30 2015, 03:37 PM
Sure, Vegeta got a few hits in, but they didn't do anything.
But 10x seems like a lot.

Bills made it sound like he had to use 10% to stay ahead as much as he was. If he could do the same thing even if he was using even 2%, wouldn't that make the 10% statement pointless?
Oh I agree, but I don't want to make Vegeta too strong :lol: .
I suppose Vegeta's rage mutation is vastly superior to his rage boost in BoG.

I'd just make Beerus weaker. In the grand scheme of things, it's not going to impact a whole lot. Beerus is probably gonna be left in the dust in the later parts of Super.
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If I weaken Beerus, I have to weaken Freeza, and I can only go so far with that for obvious reasons. Ugh, why didn't Beerus just say 1%? I could get down with that >_< .
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There's no point in weakening Beerus. All one needs to do is strengthen Vegeta. Yes it's stupid for him to be so strong, but the rage boost was stupid to begin with. You pretty much have to overpower Vegeta anyway. Goku didn't believe fusion could do anything against a Beerus who used less than 10% against him. Vegeta forced Beerus to use exactly 10%.

So either way you have it Vegeta's boost was massive.
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Why not just make vegeta stronger? If you make beerus weaker it messes with other things too and it becomes a headache

Anyway, what the f*** guys? I just watched the episode subbed(I seriously think it makes the episode better when it's subbed than raw). It's not THAT bad. And the fight with vegeta and beerus was an actual fight. Ssj2(?) vegeta looked badass at some points. I just hope goku doesn't turn ssj God at the end of episode 9

One question about beerus though. Whis didn't say beerus destroy the solar system in an instant. Beerus just said he would destroy the solar system
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Aug 30 2015, 04:33 PM
Why not just make vegeta stronger? If you make beerus weaker it messes with other things too and it becomes a headache

Anyway, what the f*** guys? I just watched the episode subbed(I seriously think it makes the episode better when it's subbed than raw). It's not THAT bad. And the fight with vegeta and beerus was an actual fight. Ssj2(?) looked badass at some points. I just hope goku doesn't turn ssj God at the end of episode 9

One question about beerus though. Whis didn't say beerus destroy the solar system in an instant. Beerus just said he would destroy the solar system
What exactly does it mess with?

It really is bad. It's honestly like they don't know what to do. They want to appeal to those who like the fights, but also to those who like gags and comedy. Instead of integrating the two, the comedy just stands out like a sore thumb, contrasting with the serious atmosphere that the fights have had so far. If Beerus was less serious, it would've been better, but it seems like they're trying to make Beerus more similar to his BoG self after distancing him from that for a while.
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Idk what it messes with lol I just skimmed through the comments and it seemed like it would be harder

And yeah thats true. The comedy was kind of all over the place and you can't tell whether it's a serious or comedic episode. I'm sure the comedy in the series will get toned down after the retellings though

Did beerus need to use 10% to one shot vegeta or to keep up with him?
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Aug 30 2015, 04:43 PM
Idk what it messes with lol I just skimmed through the comments and it seemed like it would be harder

And yeah thats true. The comedy was kind of all over the place and you can't tell whether it's a serious or comedic episode. I'm sure the comedy in the series will get toned down after the retellings though

Did beerus need to use 10% to one shot vegeta or to keep up with him?
I really hope so. If they want to put it in the U6 saga, perhaps show some clips of the other Z-fighters who didn't go on the trip (if that's what happens). It'd be a decent way of giving other characters screen time and, being really optimistic here, maybe a threat could come along that they'd have to deal with while Goku and Vegeta are gone.

Edit: I'm gonna assume it took 10% to take him out. Only watched the episode in passing, so I'd have to go back and see it again, but that'd make things a little more manageable, I guess.
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Taken on it's own, I don't think episode 8 is that offensive. It's just that the poor pacing has been compounding, and the whole exchange between Oolong and Beerus was just unbearable by this point. We only get 1 episode a week, and when an episode decides not to advance the plot, a plot we've already scene, it's infuriating.
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My Dear Melancholy,

I think the U6 saga will do what episode 1-3 did.

10 minutes of Earth
10 minutes of U6
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