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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 28 2015, 05:55 PM (1,413 Views) | |
| + Ginyu | Aug 28 2015, 05:55 PM Post #1 |
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With all the sh*t going down in the Middle East, Europe is not being flooded with refugees, more than ever, more than they can handle. People from Syria and Northern Africa come to Europe by boats and trucks, and they won't nicely divide themselves over Europe of course, they all get into Schengen area and then go to a country, preferably as rich as possible such as Germany, France, the Benelux, the UK or Scandinavia. The European countries can barely take care of enough shelter, refugees are causing trouble at the Calais tunnel, destroying trucks and attacking truck drivers. Yesterday they discovered a truck in Austria filled with 70 refugees, they all suffocated and a boat with 100+ refugees sank and everybody drowned in the Mediterranean Sea. It's escalating further and further. The right-wingers over here want to just send everyone back to where they came from. The left-wingers are obviously against it but can't come up with an alternative either. |
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| Buuberries | Aug 28 2015, 05:57 PM Post #2 |
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| + Ginyu | Aug 28 2015, 06:03 PM Post #3 |
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That's not going to cause massive unemployment? |
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| + Steve | Aug 28 2015, 06:09 PM Post #4 |
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Give the useful ones jobs, educate those that aren't useful, send those who refuse to help out back. If you're fleeing to another country and accepting hospitality without giving anything back you don't deserve to be there. |
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| + Ginyu | Aug 28 2015, 06:15 PM Post #5 |
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That's generally the consensus here, but people also think it's inhumane to send people back to a country where war is being waged. Especially after they risked so much to come here. |
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| + Pelador | Aug 28 2015, 06:19 PM Post #6 |
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Build a giant island in the middle of the Atlantic and name it New Atlantis. Then send them there. Problem solved. |
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| + Steve | Aug 28 2015, 06:40 PM Post #7 |
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I see the reasoning to that but why should they be allowed to go other to other countries at the expense of their people? I don't see the logic to that view. Maybe they could just be given some land that doesn't get used for anything plus building materials and be left to make their own town? I'm sure governments would most likely be greedy over the land but come on there's tons of abandoned places in every country that nobody is going to bother with, they should be fair game. That way refugees could have their own area and help others seeking refuge, plus it'd offer up a lot of volunteer or paid work for nationals. Better than them all being crammed in to hellholes not doing anything. |
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| Ssj3 Vegeta | Aug 28 2015, 08:22 PM Post #8 |
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| Goddess Ultimecia | Aug 28 2015, 08:46 PM Post #9 |
 
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Or better yet, enlist the talents of Patrick Star to help in moving all of the chain islands into one mega island. Then move them there, much more cost effective than building an entire one. 
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| Notaka | Aug 28 2015, 10:59 PM Post #10 |
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I agree with steve. They have as much right as the native people to stay here.Especially with a good reason(war on their home). If they can prove themselves useful, then it'll be a great help. |
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| + Pelador | Aug 28 2015, 11:33 PM Post #11 |
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The issue is infrastructure. We already have busy roads, busy hospitals and over crowded classrooms. I'm not saying we are full but it would strain an already bustling nation like the UK if millions of people came here over the course of a few months. Perhaps if they were spread out in a reasonable way then it could work ok. Not just crammed into one or two cities. I still think that my original idea is actually quite good. We create an artificial land mass about the size of London somewhere in the Atlantic where it won't affect sea lanes or geological stuff. It has schools, hospitals, police, a seaport and an airport. It's looked after and democratically governed by representatives from UK, Germany, USA, France and Russia. It's expensive but better than jamming the trains with even more people. |
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| + Steve | Aug 29 2015, 01:20 AM Post #12 |
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I'm not sure that would be practical or safe really it would take a heck of a lot to make a stable landmass and that wouldn't be very good for sea levels. It wouldn't do too much but of course more and more space would be needed so it would mount up, that plus the ice caps is a bad combo. I think governments should just stop being selfish and give away unused land, what right do they have to just claim parts of the planet we all live on that aren't even being used? If it's a nature reserve then fair enough but otherwise if nobody is buying it use it for something helpful. |
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| peep | Aug 29 2015, 01:23 AM Post #13 |
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u guys need to hire seal team 6 to assassinate the warlords so no more wars so they can go home |
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| * Mitas | Sep 3 2015, 09:32 PM Post #14 |
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In line with what Pelador suggested, instead of creating a new land mass, why not use the massive expanses of land available in the countries that these refugees are fleeing? The idea of colonising other nations has sort of ended in the modern world, but I wonder at what point will the first-world countries decide to just go into these war-torn countries, tackle the likes of ISIS and Boko Haram, and then relocate people back to those countries (even offering people from Europe/America/wherever else the chance to relocate to a place with new job opportunities)? Obviously it would mean having to deploy armed forces in the areas to keep the law, and there would be opportunities for corruption to arise if it wasn't closely supervised, but it seems silly to overpopulate certain areas of the world and then leave others completely empty. People would say "why should we send our armies/people to deal with wars that aren't our business?", but I just don't understand that line of thinking. Why must looking out for 'your own' mean your own country? Can't looking out for your own mean looking out for other humans, regardless of nationalities? Maybe it's too early in our evolution to be thinking about ourselves as one nation, but I feel like that's the way we need to be thinking to fix this issue. If the issue at hand is there not being enough room/jobs/money to accommodate people fleeing a dangerous country, then the solution should be to fix that country. Idk, maybe I'm over-simplifying things, or overlooking something glaringly obvious as to why it wouldn't work, but I just feel like as an intelligent race, we should be above the whole 'us vs them' thing. We're all humans. |
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| + Pelador | Sep 3 2015, 10:07 PM Post #15 |
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Because aside from Bosnia in the 90s, I can't think of a single instance where military intervention had a stabilising effect on a country. I honestly think the best case solution is to let the places fix themselves. But yes, we need to be doing a lot more to help the victims of these incidents. |
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