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Sword Art Online
Tweet Topic Started: Aug 20 2015, 07:58 AM (1,184 Views)
SpeedoTrunks	Aug 20 2015, 07:58 AM Post #1
Posts: 908 Group: Member Member #9,238 Joined: March 22, 2013 Gender Not Specified	So yeah, another Anime, another topic to see if anybody is a fan and to discuss it etc. Just about made to the mid season, and seems to have "ended" so that'll be interesting to see where it goes. Overall its been good, not as good a others, and looks to be trying a bit too hard to be overly emotional at every opportunity. Worth watching, and I mentioned this recently but this is the only anime I've ever watched that seem to be in need of some filler hah. Let me know if anybody else watches it



Accelerator	Aug 20 2015, 05:58 PM Post #2
最強の能力者 Posts: 7,505 Group: Super Moderator Member #7,059 Joined: December 12, 2011 Gender Female Country United States Favourite Anime Raildex/Monogatari, Mirai Nikki, Nanatsu no Taizai, Katanagatari, Clannad, Shigatsu, Angel Beats! What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Tokyo Ghoul, Nanatsu no Taizai, Joshiraku, Owari no Seraph, Railgun, Mangaka-san	It's good. It gets A LOT of hate for some reason, but I like it. It isn't the greatest show in the world but its fun. They should have extended the first arc to 24 episodes and left it at that though.
	唄歌い


EMIYA	Aug 20 2015, 06:27 PM Post #3
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	The Aincrad Arc alone could've been enough to form an entire series and while one of the better Arcs of the series, it comes off as rushed in the ending. The entire premise builds the entire world up and near the end you finally get to Kabaya but instead of just fleshing that out more, its like the story got bored and just wanted to wrap things up as quickly as possible. It comes off as an incredibly rushed at the end and not to mention a Deus Ex Machina as well. Whether or not anything was explained in the Light Novel things are left very ambiguous in the anime. We don't really understand why Kabaya went through all this other than some obscene means despite the fact that the series obviously wants us to see some kind of sympathy with Kabaya. ALO comes along and its a drop in quality now. The concept that made the original arc unique is gone here, the character's aren't as good, we have a completely unlikable villain, makes Asuna who was very independent before into just a damsel in distress and the quality is just much lower. The risk of death has gone away and the end is another Deus Ex Machina. It's got some nice parts but overall it's something that's really average at best. Gun Gale Online is probably the best of the arcs imo. You have a great spporting character in sinon, a cool villain, the threat of death is back and its nice to have anew premise to go by. More so, unlike Aincrad, this one actually feels like its trying to finish up properly and not just rush to the end. The ending itself also comes off as more natural and not just a straight up Deus Ex Machina like the rest. Calibur Arc though is easily the worst of the Arcs and to me is nothing more than pointless filler that could easily have been done in an episode or two. Maybe it has some importance later on in the Light Novel but for now it's really nothing but pointless filler that could be skipped. Mother Rasario is like ALO, it's alright but at the same time it just feels like something that could be fit within a few episodes and not an entire Arc. Personally when you've gone through Aincrad and Gun Gale Online where so much was at stake, things like Calibur and Mother Rosario feel very...insignificant almost in regards. Yuuki is a nice character but instead of trying to tell a story a flesh out the characters, it feels more like the need to just want to be really emotional with Yuuki's condition. Overall as I said, this entire series should've been the Aincrad Arc and build it up from there. Have the characters explore the world, go through the stages, learn more about the villains. I mean you had an entire world and concept made and as much as I love GGO, having all of this stuff was unnecessary. I've heard things about how the original author has practically rehashed many of the material he used in earlier novels and that he's had a hard time figuring out where he wants the story to go. If that's true it is quite easy to see. There are times when the series really does feel kind of rushed and you'd just want it to focus on certain points. If nothing else Aincrad and GGO are worth the watch and its always lovely to hear Yuki Kaijura's music throughout.



lazerbem	Aug 20 2015, 07:51 PM Post #4
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	It's hated way too much, imo. It's not the best of series, but it does have its cool moments and some of the character interactions are quite funny. Also, Sugou and Kuradeel chewed the scenery so much, it's impossible for me to not love them Kuradeel should have been the main villain of the Aincrad arc, not Kayaba. Another thing, did anyone just think of Seto Kaiba when they talked about Kayaba?
	Crazy cat cults in the woods


Rockman	Aug 21 2015, 12:34 AM Post #5
hoighty-toighty Posts: 11,070 Group: Guardian Member #48 Joined: December 17, 2004 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Firefox, when it isn't crashing.	I think the first Arc skipped time way too much and could have had a much more in depth story to it than what it was. Giving Kirito an actual struggle from time to time would have made the first arc better also. It seemed the author was more interested in skipping to another game and needed a segway to get there so he ended each arc quickly. I lost interest after Calibur Arc. I figured if they were going to head in this kind of direction from that point on then I'm not interested in following it.
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+ Kyouks	Aug 21 2015, 01:13 AM Post #6
Posts: 10,305 Group: Elite Member Member #8,102 Joined: August 11, 2012 Gender Other Country South Africa Favourite Anime Hentai What Browser do you use? The best one Favourite Manga They all suck	Not a big fan of the series. I can see why it's hated. The story of the first arc attempts to develop several characters on a deep level within a single episode only to shaft them, making it difficult to sympathize with them, and the overabundance of timeskips destroys the atmosphere and the novelty of it taking place in a game (which was the appeal to begin with). It also has a number of logical hiccups as far as I can make out (example: an open admin or gamemaster console or something is just sitting there ready for use by anyone for no conceivable reason and Kirito can turn an admin program into a game item in a matter of seconds; not going to pretend to know a lot about programming but that seems ridiculous all the way down to the console just being there for anyone to use), although that's not as big of a deal until the next arc. The arc also ended very abruptly. The villain's motivation for killing so many people boils down to "I forgot" and the end was anticlimactic overall. Second arc is even worse in my opinion. We get a damsel in distress story, with no threat of death the stakes were lower (though death was hardly an issue for Kirito in the first arc anyway), there are inconsistencies in the plot and tone, and it ended off with a huge deus ex machina. Villain is incredibly cliche and evil for the sake of being evil and being a foil to the nigh perfect protagonist. I can see the appeal however and why people would like the series regardless, and there are certainly worse anime out there. I just found it poorly written.



+ Steve	Aug 21 2015, 01:29 AM Post #7
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	I don't intend to watch Gun Gale but the first two arcs were really meh as far as I'm concerned. Basically as has been said about the first, went way too fast. You see characters for like 5 minutes, Kirito knows them for months and yet you're supposed to care when they die many episodes later, when you don't even know their name and they have practically no character? The main character almost never dies in a series but it never felt like there was any danger of anyone important dying. Also what was the weird transformation thing that happened in the second arc? I don't remember that being explained at all, it clearly wasn't just an illusion. I didn't find much of a reason to watch the second arc, the villain was overly dastardly imo. Then there's the whole pointless incest thing...why? Overall my main issue is that it tried too hard, chucked in a heap of tropes that didn't blend and rushed to the finish line when it should have fleshed things out. It certainly gets some needless hate, people hating it just because it's popular and such but I just don't find it enjoyable at all. Log Horizon is supposed to be better than it apparently. Not watched it myself.
	Definitely not a succubus, fear not


SpeedoTrunks	Aug 21 2015, 07:07 AM Post #8
Posts: 908 Group: Member Member #9,238 Joined: March 22, 2013 Gender Not Specified	Cool, thanks for chipping in guys on the topic! it's been better than some things I've watched, but I'm more into action type stuff, so this is more on my wave length. For me the first series was rapped up WAAAY to quickly, although I didnt mind the odd time jumps, but as its been mentioned you could probably get the entire run out of the initial Sword Art Online game. I've just started on what would be the next game, so I'll post some thoughts when I've got to something decent.



+ Steve	Aug 21 2015, 10:56 AM Post #9
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Oh wait yeah, spoilers lol. Don't think I said anything too heavy but sorry At least one thing we can all take from it is...they need to make the damn game already!
	Definitely not a succubus, fear not


Rockman	Aug 21 2015, 11:00 AM Post #10
hoighty-toighty Posts: 11,070 Group: Guardian Member #48 Joined: December 17, 2004 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Firefox, when it isn't crashing.	If SAO was the initial Arc, and was the length of FMA:Brotherhood with the same depth of character development and pseudo ideas about the evils of humanity, this anime would be gold. It makes an attempt to highlight the evils of humanity, but falls short of reasons why those evils exist. Instead just makes the villains out to be all sociopaths.
	JAke is a copyright of Spazo and Pickle Flavored Fudge Pops inc.


SpeedoTrunks	Aug 21 2015, 12:43 PM Post #11
Posts: 908 Group: Member Member #9,238 Joined: March 22, 2013 Gender Not Specified	Steve Aug 21 2015, 10:56 AM Oh wait yeah, spoilers lol. Don't think I said anything too heavy but sorry At least one thing we can all take from it is...they need to make the damn game already! Ha dont worry, after the series ended with another 10+ episodes to go, I looked it up an kinda of read up on whats going down hah. It wont stop me from enjoying it, as I imagine it'll be the same set up and execution as per the previous series.



lazerbem	Aug 21 2015, 08:37 PM Post #12
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Rockman Aug 21 2015, 11:00 AM If SAO was the initial Arc, and was the length of FMA:Brotherhood with the same depth of character development and pseudo ideas about the evils of humanity, this anime would be gold. It makes an attempt to highlight the evils of humanity, but falls short of reasons why those evils exist. Instead just makes the villains out to be all sociopaths. Wait, it was trying to highlight evils in humanity? I didn't get that vibe in the least. I don't think SAO was trying for any symbolism or deepness
	Crazy cat cults in the woods


+ Kyouks	Aug 21 2015, 08:59 PM Post #13
Posts: 10,305 Group: Elite Member Member #8,102 Joined: August 11, 2012 Gender Other Country South Africa Favourite Anime Hentai What Browser do you use? The best one Favourite Manga They all suck	It was going for some kinda deepness for sure. Focused more on the difference between real and virtual life from what I could make out. Not presented well perhaps but it was there. As far as the evils of humanity go, it did attempt to have a morally gray villain in Kayaba, but that ultimately fell flat as the show did a poor job of explaining his motives or his character in general really. The second villain was just straight up evil but I dunno, maybe there was something there. Been a while. Would've been better regardless if he wasn't just a lunatic for the good guys to look good beating. Edited by Kyouks, Aug 21 2015, 09:01 PM.



POOHEAD189	Aug 22 2015, 02:54 AM Post #14
Posts: 3,186 Group: Member Member #4,559 Joined: October 30, 2009 Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z Favourite Manga Dragonball	I have not seen SAO II, but the first one I have seen 2 times. I love it
	Tha gaol agam ort. <3


Master Gohan	Aug 23 2015, 02:57 PM Post #15
Posts: 2,178 Group: New York Yankee Member #9,780 Joined: July 21, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime KIll la Kill, No Game No Life, Code Geass, Gosick, Log Horizon, Steins;Gate	It was the 2nd anime I ever watched so I loved it when I watched it, but now I can look back and say it wasn't that amazing. I didn't like the 2nd season very much but the first season was good.



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