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General Smash Topic
Topic Started: Aug 19 2015, 11:52 PM (7,719 Views)
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Sep 4 2015, 03:50 AM
i think the series needs to make heavier characters more viable how they do it idk

but seeing heavyweights literally and metaphorically like bowser, DK, charizard, ike ect....
s*** the bed is really sad to see
IKR, the fast and strong characters are most of the time top tier.
Diddy kong, Sheik, ZSS..
Meta knight in brawl(can't say he's strong but still)
Fox/Falco in Melee
Pikachu/Kirby in SSB64.

Project M however does a good job in balance, each character is viable.

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Strongest heavy in Sm4sh might just be DK.
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Sep 6 2015, 01:17 PM
Strongest heavy in Sm4sh might just be DK.
It should be Bowser... Just sayin'.
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Personally I'm best with Ike and Bowser when it comes to heavies.
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but they all still suck s*** so it doesn't really matter
should make a huge update for balancing
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Actually I think it might just be Ike but I'm not sure. :< I would like buffs too, it's just so hard to balance heavies in this game.
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Sep 7 2015, 12:10 AM
Actually I think it might just be Ike but I'm not sure. :< I would like buffs too, it's just so hard to balance heavies in this game.
yeah, well ike shouldn't even be a heavy in the first place
hes pretty fast in fire emblem

and idk what they would do, maybe make the heavies a little faster
and be able to string combos better?
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been listening to the smash 4 soundtrack and oh my god some of these remixes make me hard
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I dunno man, DeDeDe was the best heavyweight in brawl(not counting snake)...

I didn't play the fourth one but I think that if we're only counting heavyweights it's probably Captain Falcon, R.O.B or Ryu.

Super Heavyweights, I'd put my money on DeDeDe.
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Dedede was good in Brawl because he could chaingrab though, meaning that once he got a hold of some characters he could do tons of damage or instakill. Chaingrabbing got removed in this game, meaning D3 lost his main tool. He's terrible in Sm4sh sadly :/




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DeDeDe is the best heavyweight for sure. Having a projectile is a valuable asset and his running trip is a legit approach option that rarely fails. He takes a heck of a lot to kill and dishes out damage hard.

I love Bowser, but he's just too easy to juggle. His return to stage options are appalling. Best bet is a ledge grab, but if you're up against a character than can pummel you downwards like Mario or Falcon a low edge approach is sooo scary. Bowser's best asset is that so few people use him many opponents don't know his move set, so it's fairly easy to surprise a new opponent with his invincible up smash on characters who like to come down with an attack (Link's always do this, over and over...) and people who don't know Bowser's down B shield breaks. On the ground, Bowser takes so many hits being the heaviest in the game and can kill at really, crazy low percentages. He punches through lots of projectiles too. I play with him a lot because he's just so much fun to watch throw his weight around the stage.
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Dedede's frame data sucks, his projectile is unsafe most of the time considering jabs can reflect it, has a hard time killing because he has no safe setups and has to rely on reads. DK, on the other hand, has an actual grab confirm kill on the whole cast depending on percentages, a much better pivot grab and in general footsies game with spaced bair. Dash is good for approaching, gets cargo up throw nair /bair and upb to do a lot of damage.




I'm just spouting competitive garbo here, if you're playing casually it comes down to who you're the best with I guess :P
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Another tech was discovered in Melee... 14 years later... love this game.
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Wow, this thread is a month old ?

Time does fly quickly.
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ZeRo lost to Nairo and got 2nd at MLG. His win streak is over, the first season of Smash 4 is over. Excited to see where this goes now
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