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Which form could be trained to take on a ssj2?
ssj 0 (0%)
Assj 2 (14.3%)
Ussj 0 (0%)
Lssj 6 (42.9%)
Mssj 6 (42.9%)
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Which form could be trained to take on a ssj2?; Which form could be trained to take on a ssj2
Topic Started: Aug 16 2015, 02:34 AM (1,528 Views)
Amerson26
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Which one of these forms has the best chance against a ssj2? If a person was a Ussj could he train his self to increase his speed? could these form be trained to take on a ssj 2 ?
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Wasn't Broli around Cell tier? Lssj seems a natural choice to go against ssj2.
Edited by Tinny, Aug 16 2015, 03:06 AM.
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Aug 16 2015, 03:06 AM
Wasn't Broli around Cell tier? Lssj seems a natural choice to go against ssj2.
Idk ssj2 seems to have more speed then a Lssj.
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It depends on the power of the base form of whoever is using the forms. Cell Games SSj Goku would destroy a SSj2 Freeza Saga Goku for example.
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I think we're assuming "Power Scaled" so it would likely be characters at least from the same season/time period. That said, Legendary Broly afte this little Zenkai from being nearly dead and frozen for just under a decade was enough to put him in Ascended Gohan's league, so I think its the appropriate form.

*Cue the Broly Fanboys climbing out from under the bridges coming to agree with me*
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Can someone train a Assj and a ssj to match a ssj 2 by increasing the base?
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Amerson26
Aug 16 2015, 04:21 AM
Can someone train a Assj and a ssj to match a ssj 2 by increasing the base?
If you believe the multipliers for those forms are constantly linear with Base, then yes. For example Boo-arc SSJ Goku would curbstomp a hypothetical SSJ2 Android-arc Vegeta.
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Well Broli as a "Legendary" Super Saiyan already DID seem to beat up a Super Saiyan 2 in Movie 10.

But as for less stupid forms, a Super Saiyan Grade 2 could do it. There's no major drawbacks to that form aside from some stress and energy waste, so at roughly equal powers the Grade 2 user could potentially defeat the SS2 user if they did it quickly enough.

But like others have said, it all depends on the comparative base powers. If Saiyan A is 8x stronger than Saiyan B, then Saiyan A at SS1 will be able to tango with and defeat Saiyan B at SS3.
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So would it be best to stick with the Mssj? If they could increase they base. So if they master they base form that could help they Mssj a lot .
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Aug 16 2015, 05:46 AM
So would it be best to stick with the Mssj? If they could increase they base. So if they master they base form that could help they Mssj a lot .
Yep. In fact, that's what Toriyama says Goku did after fighting Beerus.
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Logically, they could all surpass an SSJ2 by training their base.

As forms, The only one that could surpass it is LSSJ.
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It's impossible. It's a ceiling that cannot be surpassed by previous forms.
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This all depends on the persons Base.

Like take Post Zeta Sword Gohan for example, his SS2 is in the ballpark of Fat Boo, which puts it on the SS3 level, which means his SS should on the level of SS2 and his Base should be on SS level.

It's the same with Vegetto, his Base and SS surpass SS3 due to his Base being so high. I know I used a Fusion, but you get my point.
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Could Piccolo take on a Z Warrior who is Super Saiyan 2? Maybe not, but I think Piccolo is still powerful enough to be relevant. Why doesn't Piccolo ever transform into a giant? Was that not cannon? Did that only happen in the Lord Slug movie? I wish Piccolo could still turn giant. I'd think he'd have a chance against someone who is Super Saiyan 2.
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Maybe to the Base Saiyans, but partially from the Cell Game and all of the Boo Arc...he's useless compared to the Super Saiyans, the Boo arc make it very clear, he was pretty much reduced to a coach and that was about it.

Which is sad because I would've loved to see him be relevant to the Ascended Super Saiyans...let him run into another Namekian Warrior who's about equal to himself and let them Fuse.
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