Is Videl " Chi-Chi done right ". . . ?

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Is Videl " Chi-Chi done right ". . . ?
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DBZAOTA482	Aug 12 2015, 10:59 AM Post #1
Posts: 1,798 Group: Member Member #5,093 Joined: August 2, 2010 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/Z, One Piece, Akira, School Rumble, Detective Conan. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome, Internet Explorer.	Yeah, people are b**ing and whining about Videl's not a tomboy not kicking a* no more... but honestly, they're just ungrateful.. they should be glad the story at least treats her with respect and Toriyama actually wants something to do with her... unlike with Chi-Chi (who is always disrespected by the narrative and only given scraps of narrative justifaction) who just became the wife, mother, and unfortunately the "shrew". That's how she viewed within the lens of the story, how people remember her throughout consensus of the fandom, snd always will remember.... until the end of time instead of wanting to heal her. Even Super seemed to have picked up on this and make every scene with her involve the likes, while Videl will be remembered as this "wonderful waifu" for Gohan instead of a hindrance to both the story and her husbando.



+ Ryebrid	Aug 13 2015, 04:36 AM Post #2
Posts: 3,135 Group: Elite Member Member #4,909 Joined: May 21, 2010 Gender Male Country Australia Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Code Geass, Soul Eater, Sword Art Online What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Sure they're both badass fighters, but Chi Chi is loud and obnoxious and quick to dictate. While Videl may have been a little boisterous in her assertion of her abilities, she was always calm and complacent, understanding and sweet. Two very different personalities, so I don't think Videl's evolution is unnatural at all. She got to the stage in her life where she didn't feel she had to live up to her fathers glory or expectations anymore.



~~Professor Gohan~~	Aug 13 2015, 08:10 AM Post #3
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	I think this a lot. I like to think so. It seems that way, just how she was brought in, along with her character traits. The author could have made Gohan get together with Angela or Erasa or something.



DBZAOTA482	Aug 13 2015, 12:21 PM Post #4
Posts: 1,798 Group: Member Member #5,093 Joined: August 2, 2010 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/Z, One Piece, Akira, School Rumble, Detective Conan. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome, Internet Explorer.	Who Stole Hybrid Aug 13 2015, 04:36 AM Sure they're both badass fighters, but Chi Chi is loud and obnoxious and quick to dictate. While Videl may have been a little boisterous in her assertion of her abilities, she was always calm and complacent, understanding and sweet. Two very different personalities, so I don't think Videl's evolution is unnatural at all. She got to the stage in her life where she didn't feel she had to live up to her fathers glory or expectations anymore. So I take that as a yes...?



+ Clearin	Aug 13 2015, 03:21 PM Post #5
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	I think Videl's lack of motivation in fighting makes sense. Firstly her main inspiration for fighting turns out to be a fraud, then she marries a guy who doesn't fight himself. Plus having the everloving s*** beaten out of her by Spopovich possibly traumatised her a bit.



+ Ryebrid	Aug 14 2015, 11:08 AM Post #6
Posts: 3,135 Group: Elite Member Member #4,909 Joined: May 21, 2010 Gender Male Country Australia Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Code Geass, Soul Eater, Sword Art Online What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	DBZAOTA482 Aug 13 2015, 12:21 PM Who Stole Hybrid Aug 13 2015, 04:36 AM Sure they're both badass fighters, but Chi Chi is loud and obnoxious and quick to dictate. While Videl may have been a little boisterous in her assertion of her abilities, she was always calm and complacent, understanding and sweet. Two very different personalities, so I don't think Videl's evolution is unnatural at all. She got to the stage in her life where she didn't feel she had to live up to her fathers glory or expectations anymore. So I take that as a yes...? I don't think it's fair to say Videl is Chi Chi done right because you could literally say that about any two different people. Is Goku Vegeta done right? Is Goku Gohan done right? Is Bulma Chi Chi done right? etc etc. People are who they are because they are. We are all different, but the same. We shouldn't strive to be someone else, we should strive to be ourselves.



DBZAOTA482	Aug 14 2015, 12:53 PM Post #7
Posts: 1,798 Group: Member Member #5,093 Joined: August 2, 2010 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/Z, One Piece, Akira, School Rumble, Detective Conan. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome, Internet Explorer.	Who Stole Hybrid Aug 14 2015, 11:08 AM DBZAOTA482 Aug 13 2015, 12:21 PM Who Stole Hybrid Aug 13 2015, 04:36 AM Sure they're both badass fighters, but Chi Chi is loud and obnoxious and quick to dictate. While Videl may have been a little boisterous in her assertion of her abilities, she was always calm and complacent, understanding and sweet. Two very different personalities, so I don't think Videl's evolution is unnatural at all. She got to the stage in her life where she didn't feel she had to live up to her fathers glory or expectations anymore. So I take that as a yes...? I don't think it's fair to say Videl is Chi Chi done right because you could literally say that about any two different people. Is Goku Vegeta done right? Is Goku Gohan done right? Is Bulma Chi Chi done right? etc etc. People are who they are because they are. We are all different, but the same. We shouldn't strive to be someone else, we should strive to be ourselves. Pardon my bluntness... but your analogies are stupid. Since you only brought up Chi-Chi's seemingly negative qualities (which the story only seems to empathize and Super reduced her to them for cheap laughs) and brought up Videl's good qualities on top of saying they're not evendors comparable ... I'd have to take it as a yes. Besides, I'm far from the only who compared them. Edited by DBZAOTA482, Aug 14 2015, 01:08 PM.



TommKanti	Aug 16 2015, 12:50 PM Post #8
Posts: 2 Group: New Member Member #12,560 Joined: August 16, 2015	DBZAOTA482 Aug 14 2015, 12:53 PM Who Stole Hybrid Aug 14 2015, 11:08 AM DBZAOTA482 Aug 13 2015, 12:21 PM Who Stole Hybrid Aug 13 2015, 04:36 AM Sure they're both badass fighters, but Chi Chi is loud and obnoxious and quick to dictate. While Videl may have been a little boisterous in her assertion of her abilities, she was always calm and complacent, understanding and sweet. Two very different personalities, so I don't think Videl's evolution is unnatural at all. She got to the stage in her life where she didn't feel she had to live up to her fathers glory or expectations anymore. So I take that as a yes...? I don't think it's fair to say Videl is Chi Chi done right because you could literally say that about any two different people. Is Goku Vegeta done right? Is Goku Gohan done right? Is Bulma Chi Chi done right? etc etc. People are who they are because they are. We are all different, but the same. We shouldn't strive to be someone else, we should strive to be ourselves. Pardon my bluntness... but your analogies are stupid. Since you only brought up Chi-Chi's seemingly negative qualities (which the story only seems to empathize and Super reduced her to them for cheap laughs) and brought up Videl's good qualities on top of saying they're not evendors comparable ... I'd have to take it as a yes. Besides, I'm far from the only who compared them. How is Videl done anything right? Sweet and understanding sound more like obedient and harmless. And what exactly does videl do right anyways? She's given everything she's ever wanted, her father's a celebrity, she's got fans and maids and anyone else to take care of her. Then, she marries the guy who is the son of the strongest man in the world adding to her acclaim for nothing she's done to deserve him other than she was the loud and annoying girl who wouldn't let up on a dude. And we all know how easy it is for Gohan to get attached to people. Videl was the first girl who shown romantic feelings for him and wasn't due to some stupid underpants shenanigans. In fact, if it weren't for the Chi-Chi-esque she's shown, Gohan wouldn't have responded to her the way he did. Oedipus, anyone? Sure Chi-chi is loud and obnoxious, but that's the wife of Goku. The story treats her as a shrew, but no other girl, other than maybe Bulma, could stand someone like Goku. Look at Bulma with Vegeta, doesn't she mirror Chi-Chi with the way she's such a shrew to him? Chi-Chi is the daughter of a former student of Master Roshi. She at least has a legitimate role in the classical sense of nobility in the kind of world Goku lives in. As for Videl, who was she ever in dbz or dbsuper? She was the girlfriend tag along that didn't really push the story along. It was Goku who decided to visit Earth and go to the tournament, not just because Videl wanted Gohan to go. And in Super, she's nothing but a silent cheerleader. And by this writing, she's just a catalyst for Pan and if the series goes along with BOG, then she's attributing to the God transformation in goku. And if you want to argue who put more into SSJG Goku, Chi-Chi with two born children. I think Who Stole Hybrid is right in that Videl is who she is because of her situation. Videl is only able to be Videl because Gohan isn't like Goku or Vegeta. He's a modern saiyan with responsibilities of keeping a real job or becoming someone with a real job, where ever we are on the timeline. You gotta remember, she's new to all this my husband is a Saiyan thing. Wait until she has kids who are flying away from her. Let's see if she's not a shrew by then.



DBZAOTA482	Aug 16 2015, 05:58 PM Post #9
Posts: 1,798 Group: Member Member #5,093 Joined: August 2, 2010 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/Z, One Piece, Akira, School Rumble, Detective Conan. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome, Internet Explorer.	TommKanti Aug 16 2015, 12:50 PM DBZAOTA482 Aug 14 2015, 12:53 PM Who Stole Hybrid Aug 14 2015, 11:08 AM DBZAOTA482 Aug 13 2015, 12:21 PM Who Stole Hybrid Aug 13 2015, 04:36 AM Sure they're both badass fighters, but Chi Chi is loud and obnoxious and quick to dictate. While Videl may have been a little boisterous in her assertion of her abilities, she was always calm and complacent, understanding and sweet. Two very different personalities, so I don't think Videl's evolution is unnatural at all. She got to the stage in her life where she didn't feel she had to live up to her fathers glory or expectations anymore. So I take that as a yes...? I don't think it's fair to say Videl is Chi Chi done right because you could literally say that about any two different people. Is Goku Vegeta done right? Is Goku Gohan done right? Is Bulma Chi Chi done right? etc etc. People are who they are because they are. We are all different, but the same. We shouldn't strive to be someone else, we should strive to be ourselves. Pardon my bluntness... but your analogies are stupid. Since you only brought up Chi-Chi's seemingly negative qualities (which the story only seems to empathize and Super reduced her to them for cheap laughs) and brought up Videl's good qualities on top of saying they're not evendors comparable ... I'd have to take it as a yes. Besides, I'm far from the only who compared them. How is Videl done anything right? Sweet and understanding sound more like obedient and harmless. And what exactly does videl do right anyways? She's given everything she's ever wanted, her father's a celebrity, she's got fans and maids and anyone else to take care of her. Then, she marries the guy who is the son of the strongest man in the world adding to her acclaim for nothing she's done to deserve him other than she was the loud and annoying girl who wouldn't let up on a dude. And we all know how easy it is for Gohan to get attached to people. Videl was the first girl who shown romantic feelings for him and wasn't due to some stupid underpants shenanigans. In fact, if it weren't for the Chi-Chi-esque she's shown, Gohan wouldn't have responded to her the way he did. Oedipus, anyone? Sure Chi-chi is loud and obnoxious, but that's the wife of Goku. The story treats her as a shrew, but no other girl, other than maybe Bulma, could stand someone like Goku. Look at Bulma with Vegeta, doesn't she mirror Chi-Chi with the way she's such a shrew to him? Chi-Chi is the daughter of a former student of Master Roshi. She at least has a legitimate role in the classical sense of nobility in the kind of world Goku lives in. As for Videl, who was she ever in dbz or dbsuper? She was the girlfriend tag along that didn't really push the story along. It was Goku who decided to visit Earth and go to the tournament, not just because Videl wanted Gohan to go. And in Super, she's nothing but a silent cheerleader. And by this writing, she's just a catalyst for Pan and if the series goes along with BOG, then she's attributing to the God transformation in goku. And if you want to argue who put more into SSJG Goku, Chi-Chi with two born children. I think Who Stole Hybrid is right in that Videl is who she is because of her situation. Videl is only able to be Videl because Gohan isn't like Goku or Vegeta. He's a modern saiyan with responsibilities of keeping a real job or becoming someone with a real job, where ever we are on the timeline. You gotta remember, she's new to all this my husband is a Saiyan thing. Wait until she has kids who are flying away from her. Let's see if she's not a shrew by then. Being a female love interest with great natural fighting talent for the world's strongest man. For else, both retired before try can have their potential realized to become housewives only Videl will be fondly remembered throughout the fandom consensus while Chi-Chi will be remembered as the woman who yelled, screamed at her husband and son for leaving home when they're trying to save the world, and makes their son study (oh the horror...!). That's sad. Even Super seems to catch onto this and depends on this perception. But Bulma has something Chi-Chi doesn't: Respect. Plus her position as a mother and wife is driven by her motives as an individual.



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