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Topic Started: Aug 12 2015, 05:55 AM (5,926 Views)
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Minute: 19~20
Vegeta: “Kakarot…The one I’ve acknowledged as the strongest Saiyan…But Kakarot, I have no intention of being content with staying Number Two forever! Someday I will surpass you! No, I’ll surpass every living being in this universe…and become the supreme Number One!”
Significance: Again, Vegeta admits Goku is the strongest Saiyan, but is not content to remain in second place. This may imply Vegeta considers Goku stronger than Gohan/Gotenks at this point, unless by “strongest Saiyan” he means “strongest pure-blooded Saiyan”. Or he just refuses to acknowledge Gohan/Gotenks.

Ha. Good old Vegeta is still fooling himself.
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Well, it's possible he doesn't acknowledge Gotenks because said character is a temporary being, and he doesn't consider Gohan to be "one of them," so to speak, because he doesn't have a love of fighting and has his nose in the books most of the time (in other words, Gohan is not an active fighter and poses no threat to Vegeta's destination).
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Of course, I just thought of the situation in a very comical way when i read it.

Still, I think people have to realise that the gap between Goku and Gotenks was never intended to be monstrous(say 1000x difference). Big, but not monstrous, and Super is proof of that intention.
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Herms updated.

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Minute: 7
Context: During Vegeta's flashback, Beerus beats up King Vegeta and explains what King Vegeta did to offend him.
Beerus: "I ordered you to bring me the most comfortable pillow in the universe. So you stole it from some planet somewhere. I don't know how many people you killed to get it...You then kept that one to yourself, and gave me the second most comfortable one! What, did you think I wouldn't notice?!"
Significance: While I haven't heard about this dialogue being outrageously mistranslated anywhere, it's probably the one big bit of new backstory introduced in ep.6, so I might as well include it here for reference purposes. This might also be my favorite joke in Super so far.

Minute: 16
Context: Beerus asks Vegeta what his relationship with Goku is
Vegeta: "W-Well, I guess we're like rivals."
Beerus: "You guess?"
Significant: This line varied a lot between different translations. In Japanese, Vegeta says he and Goku could be described as kataki doushi, a pair of rivals/enemies. The word kataki can mean not only rivals or opponents in sports, but also enemies in war. In context "rival" is probably best, since Vegeta doesn't say it with any apparent malice, and his attitude towards Goku in ep.2 seems more "friendly rival", in keeping with how their relationship developed in the Boo arc. Some translations opted for "enemy" or "opponent", which is not technically wrong but isn't really the best word choice for this context. Apparently some even went with "battle comrade", which is pretty much wrong since it implies people who fight alongside side each other rather than against each other (of course, Goku and Vegeta have fought alongside each other sometimes, but Vegeta doesn't mention anything about that).
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I think he should have included Yamcha's line to Beerus, since I've seen two versions, one that says Yamcha is "one of the strongest" and one that says Yamcha is "the strongest fighter here". The joke works better if Yamcha actually claims he is the strongest, which I think is the implication. Yamcha saying he's "one of the strongest" isn't wrong, so the point of the joke is kind of lost.
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