FutureProtagonist

Jul 31 2015, 07:04 AM

Anthonest

Jul 31 2015, 06:57 AM

FutureProtagonist

Jul 31 2015, 06:39 AM

Quote:

 

In the Buu saga Babidi states Goku's power it 3000 Kili's (Im certain you don't want a source for this, i mean, you have seen DBZ right?), according to a 2004 issue of DBZ from V-Jump, 1 Kili = 50,000 PL.

V-Jump is making things up.

Im not saying you're wrong, but V-Jump is more credible than you and Toriyama as far as I know hasn't said anything wrong about V-Jump

I think pretty much anyone here is more credible than V-Jump, especially an issue from 2004 (when nothing was going on with Dragon Ball). It's the same magazine that brought us such brilliant battle powers as Cooler at 470 million, Broly at 1.4 billion and Gogeta at 2.5 billion. Nothing about those numbers makes any sense, especially when taken together or when used with SEG multipliers (SSJ3 Goku has to be at least 3.76 billion). I'm not sure how Goku can beat 470 million Cooler if his battle power 150 million either. The magazine can't even keep its own s*** straight, much less the entire series.

Do you really think that Toriyama is going to say anything negative about a DB magazine? Do you think he could possibly care that they're putting out crazy battle powers?

Emmeth

Jul 31 2015, 07:26 AM

Anthonest, try to avoid double and triple posting where you can. You can multi-quote for a reason.

V-Jump more credible than the original author himself? That's a new one.

Mr. Hashbrowns

Jul 31 2015, 07:26 AM

I'm confused. Is OP saying post-RoSaT Trunks, Vegeta, Semi-Perfect Cell, and Androids 16, 17, 18 are all weaker than Namek Freeza?

And this doesn't even begin to cover issues like Babidi choosing Base Saiyans over Piccolo, Base Vegeta confident in winning the tournament etc.

Saberoph

Jul 31 2015, 07:06 AM

I'm still waiting to see the magical number added to SS after Transforming that's never been stated or implied.

Saberoph

Jul 31 2015, 07:02 AM

Anthonest

Jul 31 2015, 06:56 AM

Saberoph

Jul 31 2015, 06:44 AM

Then show me a scan that states that his training for the Three years didn't increase his power. Also, the Call Games and the energy Kakarrot was putting out before his SS2 burst says you're wrong.

I don't need to show you a 'scan' I already proved to you in my above post that his base PL was the same in the Freiza saga as it was in the Buu saga, proving that he didn't improve his base power over the 3 or the 7 year gap. Honestly, do you even understand my argument? The power he was putting out in the cell games was when he was a FULL POWER SUPER SAIYAN, ive already proved that Goku did not go FPSSJ when Babidi read his power level but just regular SSJ, the power he put out as a FPSSJ during the Cell Games is irrelevant.

But for your argument to hold any water even in the slightest, you need evidence and so far you don't have anyway. So far all you have is baseless assumptions, conjecture and your opinion and absolutely nothing to show for it.

You're a new member so you should know how this forum works...if you continue down this road and don't show anything on purpose then that's considered trolling around here and your topics will be closed as quickly as you start them, and if you continue with this attitude...members and staff won't put up with it and you won't be here long before being either suspended or banned. None of that was a thread, I'm just telling you how this forum site works.

Saberoph

Jul 31 2015, 07:33 AM

I'm talking about you saying Kakarrot's Base never increased passed Frieza, but saying his SS kept getting stronger...which would mean with your logic there would need to be more than Fifty times, but nothing like that has ever been stated nor implied.