Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Rotation Advertisements



We hope you enjoy your visit to this forum.


If you are reading this then it means you are currently browsing the forum as a guest, we don’t limit any of the content posted from guests however if you join, you will have the ability to join the discussions! We are always happy to see new faces at this forum and we would like to hear your opinion, so why not register now? It doesn’t take long and you can get posting right away.


Click here to Register!

If you are having difficulties validating your account please email us at admin@dbzf.co.uk


If you're already a member please log in to your account:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
Film Theory: How Ki works?
Topic Started: Jul 30 2015, 10:40 PM (758 Views)
Ripator
Member Avatar


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq1aPOunsFA

This video was just released today on the Film Theory Youtube channel. It has some intresting ideas on how ki and ki attacks, like the kamehameha function. Just curious about what you guys think of his idea.
Posted Image
Member Offline View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Tinny
Member Avatar


Ripator
Jul 30 2015, 10:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zq1aPOunsFA

This video was just released today on the Film Theory Youtube channel. It has some intresting ideas on how ki and ki attacks, like the kamehameha function. Just curious about what you guys think of his idea.
The idea is interesting, almost certainly false he even points it out, but it's interesting, midiclorins aside I almost always enjoy seeing scientific explanations for the insanity happened on screen.
Posted Image
Above signature created by Graffiti

Posted Image
Member Online View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans
Member Avatar
魔王子

Matpat: "Haha look at me, I can regurgitate tired jokes!"

In all seriousness, there's really no way Ki can be plasma. To suggest it's plasma is to suggest Z-fighters can resist the heat of condensed plasma, and we've been shown countless times that this doesn't hold true. Goku and Gohan, for example, felt the heat of a measly 122 degrees Fahrenheit in the Room of Spirit and Time.
Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, Jul 31 2015, 01:46 AM.
Posted Image
Battle Power Guide
3DS FC: 2707-1669-7946
XBL/PSN: MaOujiBejita
Member Offline View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
+ Solid Snake
Member Avatar
滅Are you frightened?

ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
Jul 31 2015, 12:14 AM
Matpat: "Haha look at me, I can regurgitate tired jokes!"

In all seriousness, there's really no way Ki can be plasma. To suggest it's plasma is to suggest Z-fighters can resist the heat of condensed plasma, and we've been shown countless that this doesn't hold true. Goku and Gohan, for example, felt the heat of a measly 122 degrees Fahrenheit in the Room of Spirit and Time.
They felt it but it wasn't a big deal to them or at least not to Goku who previously tanked the heat from a jet's exhaust as a kid.
Posted Image
Shinnozou tomete kureru! ~ Evil Ryu


SSJG and SSJ4 Goku Sig

Dragon Ball: Ultimate Road Story

Naruto and Goku's Adventure Story
Member Online View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
MasashiHideaki
Member Avatar


In the manga it's been shown that they can create Heat out of their ki.

From chapter 209.

Posted Image

Posted Image

It's easy to fail not to see that feat in itself. Also Vegeta's speed alone created heat, hence smokes was around his entire body.

Chapter 271

Posted Image

So yeah sure, they can create heat our of their ki.

Also around chapter 491 in the manga or something, Piccolo said that they shouldn't have burnt super boo, they should've varporized him instead.

But that's as far as i recall, not sure if that was the correct phrase.
Posted Image
Member Offline View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans
Member Avatar
魔王子

Ki can obviously create heat, but that's likely the result of friction. If Ki were plasma, it would be a lot hotter than it is shown to be.
Posted Image
Battle Power Guide
3DS FC: 2707-1669-7946
XBL/PSN: MaOujiBejita
Member Offline View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
xmysticgohanx
Member Avatar


There's 3 things always exaggerated in fiction: heat, gravity, and falling from high heights. If you were to be in the sun's core, it would only require city levels of durability. 300x gravity is only barely reaching wall level durability, falling from space only requires building level durability.

Gohan looks like his leg is cut off in the top panel lmao
Member Offline View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
* Ketchup Revenge
Member Avatar
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!"

When ki manifests outside the body, it manifests as light, and all light produces heat.

The more ki that's concentrated, the more heat or potential destructibility it possesses.

However, something also worth mentioning is that according to Einstein Theory of Relativity, energy and mass are the same thing (E=MC2).
This explains why concentrated or large amounts of ki manifest as mass, even though it exists as non-visible and intangible when it's not concentrated. Ki itself does not take on the form of anything, the concentration of the ki itself just makes it seem like it is matter.

I personally like to think of ki and body as two sides of the same coin, and the result of the two working together is what battle power actually is. This is why Scouters are tricked so easily because they are only designed to read ki levels, which is only half of the larger picture.
A weak body can't have high ki because both the ki and physical body/ability have to exist equally, or at least you need to train your physical body to be able to accommodate higher concentrations of ki. However, you will always have a limit to what your body can comfortably accommodate.

This is the reason why Kaioken is dangerous. The energy produced by the Kaioken can overpower Goku's bodily mass and destroy it. His (and anyone else's) body is incapable of having the two be uneven for extended periods of time, unless he transforms, which changes the parameters of his body to produce and accommodate a larger ki than what he's normally capable of. Even though he can raise his ki while in base without Kaioken, it never stays that high on its own. It always falls back to what his body can naturally accommodate, unless he makes a conscious effort to keep it that high.
Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Aug 1 2015, 04:19 PM.
Posted Image
The vengeance is her's for as long as she stands by Him.
Member Offline View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Professor Gohan
Default Avatar


Simply, you gotta balance yourself out if you're a ki user, especially a Kaio-ken user. I like that a lot.
Member Offline View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Dagon
Member Avatar


I heard scientists are working on or theorizing about "cold plasma," so in the DBZ world it could still be plasma. They could also use their ki to keep the heat contained instead of letting it radiate.
Edited by Dagon, Aug 3 2015, 06:11 AM.
Member Offline View Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
0 users reading this topic
ZetaBoards - Free Forum Hosting
Create your own social network with a free forum.
Learn More · Register Now
« Previous Topic · Dragon Ball/Z Discussion · Next Topic »
Add Reply

Theme Designed by McKee91