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UEFA Champions League & Europa League 2015/16
Topic Started: Jul 28 2015, 01:53 PM (4,333 Views)
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Thought I'd create a topic for both competitions. Has anyone been paying attention to the qualifying rounds?

West Ham only managed to squeeze through on penalties. I find myself saying it a lot, but I'll never understand why English teams don't seem to take the Europa League seriously. I know they qualified in the end, but what's the point in risking elimination by playing a weakened team? My cousin is a West Ham fan and is talking a lot about expectations for this season, but I think he's overreaching. He wants European qualification and a good Europa League run, but I don't think they're capable of either. The top 6 is seemingly locked up, in whatever order, and Southampton and Swansea will most likely be behind them. They'll do well to finish in the top half.

Celtic seemed to qualify comfortably, although my Grandad wasn't happy with some of the performances. He said the scorelines flattered them and if they had been facing a team with better finishers, it would have been a lot closer. He's never happy with them though :P
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Any thoughts on tonight's match?
If you asked me a few months ago I'd say Man City, but Real Madrid is in a very nice form lately. I think I'm giving it to them, but it's sure going to be a nice match.
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It's a close call. I'd go with Madrid just because Ronaldo proved against Wolfsburg he's not gonna go down easily.
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I thought he was injured?


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I didn't even know he was injured, but I just google checked him in the news and he's been passed fit for tonight. Yeah, if he was injured I'd go with City for sure.

Edit: You were right, he is injured. Must have read a wrong report.
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Nicely done by Atlético getting a win without Godín.
Perhaps we'll see a Madrid derby in the final? Would be cool as long as Atleti can win.

Shakhtar - Sevilla and Villarreal - Liverpool today.
If I had to guess, I'd say the Spanish teams win both matches, but I'm rooting for the opposite. Shakhtar and Liverpool.
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I'll be happy with a score draw away against Villareal. As long as we can come back with an away goal without losing, I think that'll set us up nicely for the return leg. Sakho could be a big miss though, he's been immense for us at times this season.
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He's also been really bad at times. I don't think he's reliable.


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I disagree. I'm a big fan of Sakho. All the game time I've watched over the past few seasons, I've never come away thinking of him as unreliable. He's not world class and has had a few errors, but he's proven to me at least that he's very, very good. I think a lot of the flak he gets is because he just never looks comfortable. Even when he's passing the ball well, it doesn't look graceful, so it almost looks like he got away with it, when in reality he was never close to making a mistake.

I'd be interested to hear why you think he's unreliable.
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That was pretty typical.


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Always sucks to concede so late, especially getting caught on the break like that.
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Congrats to Athletico Madrid. Looks like it's going to be an all Madrid final again. I'd put money on Athletico winning the whole thing. If they can take the league as well then that would be just the icing on the cake.


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I respect Diego Simeone's tactical brilliance and Atleti's defensive cohesiveness, but I am not a fan of the way they play. 10 men behind the ball no matter the opposition and no matter the score line. Bayern and Barcelona are better teams than Atletico despite what the scoreline indicated. I don't think Atleti's style can last, it never has for Jose Mourinho, who plays a similar style.

All of Atletico's best players have left the club for years because I feel players don't enjoy playing the way Diego Simeone forces Atleti to play as well as the fact that it's a grueling play style that players can't keep up over the years. At some point, Simeone is not going to be able to replace Antoine Griezzman or Saul or Koke the way he has replaced Diego Costa, Falcao, Aguero, Turan over the years.
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Predictable result. Real Madrid weren't even that good. No idea what Aguero was doing the whole game. Seemed to forget he was a forward.


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I respect Diego Simeone's tactical brilliance and Atleti's defensive cohesiveness, but I am not a fan of the way they play. 10 men behind the ball no matter the opposition and no matter the score line. Bayern and Barcelona are better teams than Atletico despite what the scoreline indicated. I don't think Atleti's style can last, it never has for Jose Mourinho, who plays a similar style.

All of Atletico's best players have left the club for years because I feel players don't enjoy playing the way Diego Simeone forces Atleti to play as well as the fact that it's a grueling play style that players can't keep up over the years. At some point, Simeone is not going to be able to replace Antoine Griezzman or Saul or Koke the way he has replaced Diego Costa, Falcao, Aguero, Turan over the years.
You say that, but then Atletico have shown a consistent knack for replacing players people thought they couldn't dating back to when Torres left. Torres turned into Aguero and Forlan, who then turned into Falcao, into Costa, into Griezman, and that's just goalscorers. Once or twice is a fluke, multipe times is an example of a good scouting network. We have no reason to believe they'll just suddenly lose that skill just because you don't think they can keep it up.

Also, Bayern and Barcelona are not better teams than Atletico because Atletico beat both of them over two legs (and could possibly pip Barcelona to the title). Bayern and Barcelona may play better football, they may have better players, they may have a more successful history, but at this moment in time they aren't a categorically better team. If Atletico were doing s*** in the league but good in Europe, or good in the league but s*** in Europe, or they beat Bayern but not Barca, or vice versa, then yeah, maybe you'd have a point. But they have done all of the above. Sure, you can dislike their style of play, but disliking them is not reason enough to declare them a worse team, when evidence suggests otherwise.
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YOU'LL NEVER WALK ALONE.

Great performance. I love what Klopp has done with this team. I fully expect them to beat Sevilla who always seem to concede goals.


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