Should todays society banned the 'N' word all together?

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Should todays society banned the 'N' word all together?
Tweet Topic Started: Jul 27 2015, 02:06 AM (3,786 Views)
+ Ginyu	Aug 26 2015, 08:54 PM Post #61
Leve Feyenoord 1! Posts: 4,490 Group: Elite Member Member #9,685 Joined: June 30, 2013 Gender Female Country Netherlands Favourite Anime NJPW What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Reading is for nerds, yo!	Din Aug 26 2015, 08:51 PM Of course racism is a theme. It's only a theme because of how diverse we are! You're no more diverse than other western countries... You think Europe doesn't have a lot of Asians, Hispanics, Muslims, etc.? The entire western world has become multicultural.
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Ding	Aug 26 2015, 08:56 PM Post #62
Posts: 671 Group: Duplicate Member #12,579 Joined: August 25, 2015 Gender Male Country Australia Favourite Anime DDZ obviously What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball I suppose. Don't really read mango	Are far as I can tell you're only argument against America is that we're not perfect. Well we're constantly working out. Part of what makes us so great is that we strive to be the best. We have so much hope, and so much potencial. We will go to Mars, we will cure cancer, we will help other countries with their problems, we will provide humanitarian aid. The list goes on.
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Ding	Aug 26 2015, 08:57 PM Post #63
Posts: 671 Group: Duplicate Member #12,579 Joined: August 25, 2015 Gender Male Country Australia Favourite Anime DDZ obviously What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball I suppose. Don't really read mango	Are far as I can tell you're only argument against America is that we're not perfect. Well we're constantly working out. Part of what makes us so great is that we strive to be the best. We have so much hope, and so much potencial. We will go to Mars, we will cure cancer, we will help other countries with their problems, we will provide humanitarian aid. The list goes on.
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+ Ginyu	Aug 26 2015, 09:00 PM Post #64
Leve Feyenoord 1! Posts: 4,490 Group: Elite Member Member #9,685 Joined: June 30, 2013 Gender Female Country Netherlands Favourite Anime NJPW What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Reading is for nerds, yo!	Din Aug 26 2015, 08:57 PM Are far as I can tell you're only argument against America is that we're not perfect. Well we're constantly working out. Part of what makes us so great is that we strive to be the best. We have so much hope, and so much potencial. We will go to Mars, we will cure cancer, we will help other countries with their problems, we will provide humanitarian aid. The list goes on. You're really going to make me quote my previous post? fine. Quote: Your view on the world is pretty depressing if great countries are defined by large and powerful armies and the economic power of a government. If that's how you define a great country then fine, you win, I'll happily admit America is #1. But I still wouldn't want to live there. I'd base my ideal country on one where the people have a high happiness rate, where health care is good and available for everyone, a high ranking on the GPI, a country with low crime rates, a large GDP per capita, a country where people can enjoy many freedoms. But if you don't see it that way than the debate has no point and we'll just have to agree to disagree. We've also gone offtopic, let's stick to banning words lol All you seem to care about is how other people see your country, you haven't made a single point about why it is good for YOU to live there, the only thing that you have mentioned that benefits you is that it makes you proud how other countries fear yours.
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Ding	Aug 26 2015, 09:11 PM Post #65
Posts: 671 Group: Duplicate Member #12,579 Joined: August 25, 2015 Gender Male Country Australia Favourite Anime DDZ obviously What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball I suppose. Don't really read mango	How would my experience in America on a micro level be relevant to this discussion? This is a country vs country discussion on a macro level. I'll be back later yo. Edited by Ding, Aug 26 2015, 09:13 PM.
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+ Ginyu	Aug 26 2015, 09:14 PM Post #66
Leve Feyenoord 1! Posts: 4,490 Group: Elite Member Member #9,685 Joined: June 30, 2013 Gender Female Country Netherlands Favourite Anime NJPW What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Reading is for nerds, yo!	Din Aug 26 2015, 09:11 PM How would my experience in America on a micro level be relevant to this discussion? This is a country vs country discussion on a macro level. I'll be back later yo. Well apparently it is if you feel yourself lucky to have been born there.
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Ding	Aug 27 2015, 01:54 PM Post #67
Posts: 671 Group: Duplicate Member #12,579 Joined: August 25, 2015 Gender Male Country Australia Favourite Anime DDZ obviously What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball I suppose. Don't really read mango	GinyuTokusentai Aug 26 2015, 09:14 PM Din Aug 26 2015, 09:11 PM How would my experience in America on a micro level be relevant to this discussion? This is a country vs country discussion on a macro level. I'll be back later yo. Well apparently it is if you feel yourself lucky to have been born there. America is the greatest country on Earth and therefore I am lucky to have been born here. Sidenote: Your country Spoiler: click to toggle http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/netherlands/11624019/Dutch-cabinet-backs-partial-Islamic-veil-and-burqa-ban.html Nazi chants Dutch Newspaper https://twitter.com/siddhmi/status/629344463744335872/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Black Focus: Institutional & societal racism Netherlands Hidden racism a problem in Netherlands: Deputy PM http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=219_1429707012 Dutch slave coast https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Slave_Coast Whitewashed Slavery Past? The (Lost) Struggle Against Ignorance about the Dutch Slavery History http://www.humanityinaction.org/knowledgebase/434-whitewashed-slavery-past-the-lost-struggle-against-ignorance-about-the-dutch-slavery-history Edited by Ding, Aug 27 2015, 02:41 PM.
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+ Ginyu	Aug 27 2015, 03:19 PM Post #68
Leve Feyenoord 1! Posts: 4,490 Group: Elite Member Member #9,685 Joined: June 30, 2013 Gender Female Country Netherlands Favourite Anime NJPW What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Reading is for nerds, yo!	Alright, let's dig into this. (btw, next time, don't post links without adding anything, that's lazy) "America is the greatest country on Earth and therefore I am lucky to have been born here." No, with your definiton of a "great country", you can't consider yourself lucky to have been born there, you even admitted it doesn't have effect on your micro-view, so you being born there has nothing to do with your country being "great." Not with your definition of great anyway. Okay, so the first document you posted is completely in Dutch, I doubt you got even a word of it but the document doesn't tell you anything. All it tells you is that immigrants are expected to contribute to society in the same way Dutch citizens are expected to contribute to society. So you can't come to our country and sit on your a*** and expect the government to take care of you your entire life. Because that's ridiculous, it doesn't even specify any consequences for immigrants that don't contribute. The document doesn't specify a new law or anything. Your article from the telegraph is an amazing example of how news sites can make anyone look bad. OMG no burqa's in schools and hospitals, the Dutch are sooo anti-islamis it's disgusting. No. The Netherlands is a secular nation, we have religious freedom sure, but we have limits. Burqa's are not mandated in the Koran and they're disgusting to the Dutch people. It has nothing to do with religion and is used to subjugate women. We care more about feminism than Islam. Besides, there was already a law against covering your face in those places, people just started to ask questions since burqa's somehow were okay, even though the law didn't seem to have exceptions. Nazi chants. Always bad. But why associate it with an entire country when you have 0 background info? These are FC Utrecht ultra right-wing hooligans. They are playing a team called Ajax. Who have a nickname: The Jews. Just like how Tottenham Hotspur are The Yids. These stupid idiots think it's funny to say racist things towards Jews, they're idiot racist, yes, they exist, over here as well. The people in this vid were punished, so to use it against the Netherlands is pretty stupid, they're hooligans, welcome to the rest of the world America. Then comes Dutch Newspaper. Except that's not a newpaper... But that's besides the point of course. I'm sure you weren't able to read the article. Since again, it's in Dutch. But I know why you posted it. There is one word you could read: Ngger. This article shows people how hard it can be to be black (that's right, this article is anti-racism), it tells you the story of a bunch of black people and how they're the victim of racism everyday in America. The word ngger is used as an example of an insult that's being thrown around. Also, the n-word in the Netherlands has a less powerful value here than in America. It's still an aweful racist word, but people over here don't seem to get as worked up about it as in America. The title is unfortunate maybe, but the article isn't racist, it's not used to offense black people. Then there's an 18-minute video which I'm not going to waste on an internet discussion. Then there's an article about hidden racism. Which exists, yes, of course I won't deny that. But you also need to realize that it exists everywhere, every country has a few racists, black people are nowhere truly equal to white people. And racism in the Netherlands is still at a low scale compared to other countries. An example is America, you don't read about police brutality against black people here. And then a wikipedia article about Dutch slave coasts??? You're really going to refer to the 1700s? Fine 1600-1700 Dutch Kingdom was racist as f*. We went to Africa, kidnapped black people and sold them. Really aweful. Inexcusable. Then again... America was buying... Point is, the Netherlands has changed since 3 centuries ago, believe it or not. Slavery is actually illegal here now, can you believe that? Crazy right!? I believe America has changed as well since then. I love this new trend in the media where America is calling the Netherlands racist. It's the pot calling the kettle black. I also have to add: Let's say my country IS super racist. We're aweful human being and being black is a crime here. You still would not be making a point, we were talking about why America is so great, I never said the Netherlands is #1. In fact we aren't, we're not even in the top 10. Edited by Ginyu**, Aug 27 2015, 03:25 PM.
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* Mitas	Aug 27 2015, 05:39 PM Post #69
It truly was a Shawshank redemption Posts: 12,129 Group: Retired Staff Member #2,993 Joined: December 16, 2007 Gender Male Favourite Anime DBZ What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga DBZ, Full Metal Alchemist	The fact that his argument against Netherlands was basically all concerning racism is funny, since America has as much a modern day battle with, and a history of, racism as any first world country. Any country that can send a person into crippling debt because they fall ill, or because they want to go into further education i.e. University, can not be considered the greatest country in the world, in my opinion. However, this topic has gone way off it's initial course.
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Ding	Aug 27 2015, 05:57 PM Post #70
Posts: 671 Group: Duplicate Member #12,579 Joined: August 25, 2015 Gender Male Country Australia Favourite Anime DDZ obviously What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball I suppose. Don't really read mango	My point is no country is perfect.
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+ Ginyu	Aug 27 2015, 06:03 PM Post #71
Leve Feyenoord 1! Posts: 4,490 Group: Elite Member Member #9,685 Joined: June 30, 2013 Gender Female Country Netherlands Favourite Anime NJPW What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Reading is for nerds, yo!	Din Aug 27 2015, 05:59 PM Quote: "America is the greatest country on Earth and therefore I am lucky to have been born here." No, with your definiton of a "great country", you can't consider yourself lucky to have been born there, you even admitted it doesn't have effect on your micro-view, so you being born there has nothing to do with your country being "great." Not with your definition of great anyway. You're getting all caught up in some side comment I made. I feel lucky to be born in America. Are you saying i don't actually feel this way? Are you saying I have no right to feel this way? What are you on about?? I'm asking for a reason which you fail to give.
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Ding	Aug 27 2015, 06:10 PM Post #72
Posts: 671 Group: Duplicate Member #12,579 Joined: August 25, 2015 Gender Male Country Australia Favourite Anime DDZ obviously What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball I suppose. Don't really read mango	Din Aug 25 2015, 09:41 PM GinyuTokusentai Aug 25 2015, 09:35 PM Din Aug 25 2015, 09:28 PM My only take away is that I'm lucky to have been born in the greatest country on Earth. Oh boy... This is a statement you might want to back away from. What makes you say your country is so great. The Constitution is one of the greatest documents ever drafted. We're the first modern nation to be explicitly founded with ideals of individual rights and a limited government. Most of the other great nations have found their success by copying this model to a large degree. This makes me feel proud to be an American.
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Ding	Aug 27 2015, 06:11 PM Post #73
Posts: 671 Group: Duplicate Member #12,579 Joined: August 25, 2015 Gender Male Country Australia Favourite Anime DDZ obviously What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball I suppose. Don't really read mango	Din Aug 26 2015, 08:36 PM GinyuTokusentai Aug 26 2015, 07:40 PM It still defeats the point of saying you feel lucky to be born in the 'greatest' country on earth. Because you shouldn't feel lucky, you're more unlucky. (Looking at other western countries, of course Americans are lucky looking at Africa and Asia) Also, calling ancient Rome, America and the Soviet Union great countries is very deceiving giving you the impression It's great to live there and be a part of it. If I wanted to move to some inferior country I could. I'd rather stay here in America. -We're at the forefront of the technologies of the future. (Example: biotechnology) -We attract the best and brightest from around the world. We're an immigrant magnet. Their brainpower ensures our continued success. (The best people are attracted to the best country) -Unlike China or Russia we generally have global support. We have accepted our role as world police. (Despite the bad press it sometimes gets us) -We led the charge for global democracy. -Our graduate level universities are the best in the world. -Culture. Think of the movies, books, art, and music that come out of America. Enough said. -National Parks: We have 84 million acres of buttes, plateaus, rapids, coral reefs, caverns, badlands, volcanoes, glaciers, falls, fjords, swamp-lands, sandstone arches, mangroves, geysers. We have it all. Our country is truly beautiful and diverse; however, that's not where our diversity ends. - Diversity- Today on August 26th 2015 I've seen guys and girls from India, China, Korea, Africa, Europe, Australia, New Zealand, South America, and Canada. And don't get me started on the established racial groups here in the US, (whites, blacks, Mexicans). The fact that all of us live together n a society where everyone is treated equally and is judged on their merit is truly amazing. And finally, We have our flag on the f***ing moon.
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+ Ginyu	Aug 27 2015, 06:12 PM Post #74
Leve Feyenoord 1! Posts: 4,490 Group: Elite Member Member #9,685 Joined: June 30, 2013 Gender Female Country Netherlands Favourite Anime NJPW What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Reading is for nerds, yo!	Nevermind, you don't get it.
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Ding	Aug 27 2015, 06:17 PM Post #75
Posts: 671 Group: Duplicate Member #12,579 Joined: August 25, 2015 Gender Male Country Australia Favourite Anime DDZ obviously What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragonball I suppose. Don't really read mango	What's so hard for you to understand? At Thanksgiving people will go on about how they're lucky to have their friends, family, freedom, opportunities, etc. You're the arse-wipe who stands up and questions them on each point. "PROVE TO ME UR FRIENDS, FAMILY, AND OPPORTUNITIES ARE NOT SHT" Edited by Ding*, Aug 27 2015, 06:23 PM.
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