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| xmysticgohanx | Aug 1 2015, 12:40 AM Post #46 |
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1. This is a manga where people break their limits as often as girls message me on FB. So a lot lmao 2. Do you really think it has a 9999999999x multiplier 3. Lame argument in the first place. 4. Tenshinhan dodged Boo's beams but #17 didn't 5. Murked Bootenks' blast 6. is "quite a master" or whatever Herms' translation was 7. Did amazing in FnF 8. the only thing Kuririn has going for him is lolToriyama Oob was mentioned in the same interview but forgets about him in the same interview |
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| + Clearin | Aug 1 2015, 12:54 AM Post #47 |
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2. The point isn't the move, it's the fact we'd need to see Krillin use the exact same move to see how it compared to Tien's use of it. Sure Tien could keep Cell down with it, but who says Krillin couldn't do the same if he could use Tri Beam? Besides it obviously has a massive multiplier unless you think Tien is close to 2nd form Cell, the fact it's amp is ridiculous has nothing to do with comparing him to Krillin, it's to do with comparing him to Cell. 4. Who said #17 didn't? That isn't shown or stated anywhere. He could have died when Kid Boo blew up the Earth, or more likely died when Fat Boo killed 80% of the Earth's population. 5. A blast meant for Mr Satan and Dende. And who said Krillin can't do the same? These kind of comparisons only work when the character your comparing them against can't do that specific thing. AND it was only with a Tri Beam. 6. Krillin is quite a master too, considering he's like in the top 20 of the universe that we know of. 7. So did Krillin... 8. The only thing Krillin has going for him is the manga, promotional work for BoG and RoF and Toriyama's interview. The only thing Tien has going for him is jacks***. |
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| + Pyrus | Aug 1 2015, 01:17 AM Post #48 |
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![]() Clearin with the swift put down. You were defeated before you entered the ring, my child. |
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| xmysticgohanx | Aug 1 2015, 01:40 AM Post #49 |
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2. the point is the move 4. then what was #17 doing the whole time? unless you think he didn't notice billions of people dieing around him or beams flying around everywhere 5. a blast is a balst 6. truuuuuuu 7. Tenshinhan did better 8. promotional work made by toei. manga > secondary stuff anyway Edited by xmysticgohanx, Aug 1 2015, 01:41 AM.
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| + Clearin | Aug 1 2015, 01:46 AM Post #50 |
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2. Okay but Tri Beam being strong doesn't make Tien stronger than Krillin. Sure you could say Tien could beat Krillin with a Tri Beam, but Krillin could also beat Tien with a destructo disc, and that doesn't change the fact Krillin is naturally stronger and would win in hand to hand combat. 4. Like I said, it's most likely he died when Fat Boo killed 80% of the Earth. How could Super Boo even kill him? He can't sense #17. And even if #17 has survived both Fat Boo and Super Boo, how would he find the action? He can't sense energy himself. 5. Point still stands. Until we've proved Krillin couldn't block the same blast, using it to say Tien is stronger doesn't make sense. 7. Not really. I mean the people they were fighting were so weak that even Roshi could beat them up, so Tien and Krillin were doing as well as Gohan and Piccolo honestly, the gap is so large that simply knocking out a Freeza soldier takes one hit. 8. But the manga says Krillin is the strongest, and again, nothing says Tien is. |
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| xmysticgohanx | Aug 1 2015, 02:07 AM Post #51 |
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2. Kienzan is easily dodged 4. #17 would've been someone mentionable if Fat Boo killed him. Evil Boo can't sense the rest of the Earth's population either because they're all fives. It's a small world for a infinite energy mach 29 (at the very, very, very least) flying dude. 5. absence of evidence isn't evidence 7. we're not going anywhere with this 8. feats fam |
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| + Clearin | Aug 1 2015, 02:17 AM Post #52 |
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2. Well it's a good thing Krillin doesn't need Kienzan then isn't it? Since he's stronger than Tien he can just win with a Kamehameha. The fact is Tien needs a very specific move to win (which depletes his life force each time) compared to Krillin who could win with multiple moves, or just straight up physical combat. And once more, it doesn't make Tien stronger just because he has one powerful move. To determine who was stronger you'd need to have both use the exact same move at max power, and whoever did more damage would be stronger. 4. He's really not mentionable at all. Lots of people died in that time, and statistically he'd be more likely one of the 80% killed by Fat Boo than the 20% killed by Super Boo. In fact your own argument works against you, if he's so mentionable, he'd have been mentioned when Super Boo "killed" him. The fact he isn't mentioned to be killed by any three of the Boo's just proves how unmentionable he is, and makes each one as likely as the next to have killed him. And he can't sense cyborgs at all. Humans may have low PL, but they can still be sensed. That's what Boo's trip around the lookout was for, to sense the remaining humans. 5. Exactly. The absence of a chance for Krillin to block Boo's blast while Tien got that chance isn't evidence of him being stronger. 8. Every feat Tien did, Krillin would have been able to do better given the same tools and chance. It's like you said, absence of evidence isn't evidence. The lack of Krillin performing those feats doesn't mean he can't do them. It's like saying Krillin is stronger because he hurt Nappa, while Tien never even got a hit on Nappa. |
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| FutureProtagonist | Aug 1 2015, 03:39 AM Post #53 |
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Ten is approximately 1 ten gazillionth of Gotenks-Boo, so I kind of doubt power made any kind of difference. By "feats", base Goku > Ultimate Gohan. He managed to cut Gotenks-Boo in half. The evidence is irrefutable. Edited by FutureProtagonist, Aug 1 2015, 03:41 AM.
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| + Pyrus | Aug 1 2015, 06:08 AM Post #54 |
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By "feats," wouldn't Yajirobe be stronger than all the Z-Fighters during the Saiyan Saga? He defeated Oozaru Vegeta when Krillin, Gohan, and even Kaioken Goku failed. |
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| Gracek90 | Aug 1 2015, 08:26 AM Post #55 |
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I guess being short, bald and looking pretty "normal" is naturally making you weaker than a guy who is jacked, big and well-trained. After all Frieza in his 1st form was so much weaker than nail, Burter, Ginyu and Cell Jrs well nothing compared to Trunks...oh wait. People fap to Tien only because of this shin kikoho moment, completly forget that in comparison Kuririn was actually able to fight with Nappa, Ginyu Force and Frieza. |
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| Total Warrior | Aug 1 2015, 09:06 AM Post #56 |
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People say krillin is stronger than tien due to guru's unlock potential,however i'm sure king kai told goku when he was training him that 100 days of training there=1000 years of earth training( i'm too lazy to look for that line but i'm sure it exists) . Tien stayed there for about 260 days, so 2600 years. Don't you think he would surpass krillin after 2600 years of training |
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Aug 1 2015, 09:13 AM Post #57 |
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I think Ten was close to his limits. He hit them eventually. I don't think years worth of training matters much unless more detail is given. |
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| + Pyrus | Aug 1 2015, 07:06 PM Post #58 |
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I can't be sure if that was in the manga, but even if it was, it was most definitely a hyperbole due to time not existing in the afterlife. But that's a new one I've never heard even the trolliest of trolls pull out (not saying you're a troll). |
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Aug 1 2015, 10:02 PM Post #59 |
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I dont think yoh get it Its not the techniques Why would Tenshinhan look more useful and the main earthling who helps in a fight if Krillin was stronger? He did better in FnF |
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| + Emmeth | Aug 1 2015, 10:05 PM Post #60 |
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Let's stop the Tenshinhan/Krillin discussion. Stay on-topic, please. |
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