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| FutureProtagonist | Jul 20 2015, 05:56 AM Post #31 |
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You just need to build a budget machine. At this moment, in the US, you can get a PC with performance considerably higher than a PS4 for $500, with the OS. Not exactly cheaper, but everyone needs at least a cheapo $200 comp. This way, you can game on it too. |
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| lucrowe | Jul 20 2015, 08:28 AM Post #32 |
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It's all about the consoles for myself. I have nothing against pc gaming, but I just like playing my games on my big a*** tv in the comfort of my lounge room. Or, if I'm in the mood for some old school gaming I pull out my box tv and get it up on the coffee table because (as I'm sure you all know) old games on old consoles look better on old tvs. Plus I'm big on using controllers. Using keyboards are just a pain, then you gotta go to all the trouble of setting up the keys that best suit your finger placement. Bahhh! Give me the console please! |
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| + Steve | Jul 20 2015, 10:55 AM Post #33 |
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Console for me. PC gaming is really quite awkward, maybe it's fine once you get used to it and know what you're doing but for the technologically backwards like me that can take a while never had even 1% as much trouble with any console you don't have to piss about with resolutions, graphic settings, figuring out if your machine can even run whatever game, setting up key bindings, setting up a controller if you wish to use one etc etcPlus you have to deal with all the other annoying crap PC's can throw at you. Console it's literally just plug it in, switch it on, perhaps make an account on whatever network, stick in or download a game and then play. It's all set up quickly, settings don't suddenly break the game and you're not so distracted by other things on the machine. I also find the social features much easier to use, I have not one friend on Steam because you have to be able to talk or chat to add them effectively versus the "players met" section on PS and probably Xbox, press a couple buttons and you've sent a request. Another thing that can be quite annoying is having to make accounts for so many damn games on console you usually just get your network ID automatically. As well as that I much prefer console games. Steam has what over 5000 games or something? I've used it for a couple of years now and nothing has ever particularly grabbed my attention, lot of people seem to use the library size as the defining factor of how awesome PC is, even though a grand load of the games on Steam are s***. Money whoring is just as bad on PC too, the amount of s***ty Early Access games that will never get finished, are MineCraft copies or are generally just a copy of something else is beyond ridiculous. Sure there is the refund system on Steam now but it's quite a problem that so many games aren't worth anyone's time. Better framerates and graphics doesn't justify calling it better as far as I'm concerned. It's looks pretty...and then what? If that doesn't interest you there isn't a massive appeal. |
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| Tinny | Jul 20 2015, 04:07 PM Post #34 |
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My friend and I went over to his house to play Call of Duty advanced Warfare on his xbox one. The console would not let us play it until it updated (not even offline) and spent more than an hour updating it, in the end we never got to play it as we had other things to do. That was not plug in and play, and it's why I'm pc mustard race. Anyways, as to pc vs console gaming The PC can more or less do anything a console can do and better, I would say split screen was a console thing but... It's not. :/ okay what about updating the hardware? Nope, console problem as well. It's cheaper? Everyone needs a computer, and if you're willing to wait nearly every game that comes out will go on sale at some point, plus you have mods to give greater longevity to whatever game you own. (Though I think xbox1 was looking into it? Fallout 4 anyway) controllers? You can use a controller to play on the pc and there have been specific gamepads meant for the pc even, I owned one it used numbers instead of letters. The only weakness the pc has is that AAA tend to pay less attention to them, but mods can help correct technical problems they leave in. The greatest advantage the console had (ease of play)they've abandoned to be... Computers. Just about the only thing a pc has is that you have to deal with computer problems. If I can't get on the couch and invite three friends over to play, then I wonder just what the console is there for. Not to say game library and exclusives can't be a turning point, but I really don't consider that, most games are multiplatform now adays. A few here and there but PCs have allot more exclusives. Some prefer consoles, but right now I'd say that almost entirely preference, rather than consoles doing something right. |
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| Meowth | Jul 20 2015, 04:13 PM Post #35 |
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Objectively, what is better? PC, always will be, there is no argument otherwise because of it's flexibility, wide collection of games and so forth. You can't objectively say a console is better because it isn't, never will be. From a taste perspective, what you enjoy is up to you, you can enjoy console gaming if you wish and that is your preference, just because you like something doesn't make it better. |
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| Saberoph | Jul 20 2015, 04:37 PM Post #36 |
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This is why I keep saying the line between Console and PC is getting thinner and thinner, in 10 years from now I doubt they'll be a difference at all...more than likely we'll get either an Xbox PC or a Playstation PC, or the competition will end up being Operating System based and on PC we'll have an Xbox OS (Which will more than likely be either Windows 10.1 or something like that, or Windows 10 Gaming Edition) and a Playstation OS for PC and the one that's more optimized for gaming will be the one everyone will flock to. I think what I said above should be kept in mind when making the argument of Console VS. PC. But Good video Cersi. By the way...how was your walk of shame?
Edited by Saberoph, Jul 20 2015, 04:44 PM.
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| Meowth | Jul 20 2015, 04:45 PM Post #37 |
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An interesting theory that it will all end up becoming an OS war rather than platform, perhaps the SteamBox may kickstart that, of which I think the SteamBox is overpriced since a custom PC with the same parts can be cheaper, just stick SteamOS on it. Consoles make money from selling their licence to companies to make games for them, PC games don't have that licence cost on them, which is what made Windows OS less profitable to Microsoft than the XBox. Sony will probably fall behind if it becomes a war of OS, Microsoft and Steam would possibly be the big players if that happened, Linux still carrying on along as normal and Mac just, well, being Mac. Let's not forget about Nintendo, I think the Wii was a great console, it's a fun, silly, party game console to me and it has it's own little market for that! In my opinion anyway, it's not a competitor in the same sense as XBox or Playstation.
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| Saberoph | Jul 20 2015, 04:48 PM Post #38 |
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That's why I included the video, because it's not really a theory now...more like the next logical step. I actually have a Thread about all of this and where the Industry might be going. http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8543927/1/ |
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| + Steve | Jul 20 2015, 04:53 PM Post #39 |
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But you can. There are plenty of negatives to both sides, if you want to pretend PC gaming is perfect go ahead, doesn't make it true. It's better for people who want the flexibility and whatnot, not everyone does therefore it's subjective. If you're taking objectivity as literally about the objects as in parts then yes PC hardware is more powerful but hardware hardly defines gaming enjoyment. You can't really use "objectively" to try win the argument because it's still from a taste perspective whether or not you have fun with whatever platform. Better hardware doesn't equate to more fun if you want to disagree explain why Nintendo exists and why they're so popular.
That's a pretty isolated incident though isn't it? It's not the consoles fault his internet connection isn't fast and there's still that problem on PC the same game wouldn't magically download faster would it Also it's CoD if it's not working properly or well...it's CoD, can't expect magnificence That's another good thing about consoles is that games are better regulated. Sometimes broken messes of games make it to the store but not always, whereas any old pile of horse manure can be put on Steam, they can slap Early Access on it just as an excuse for their game being broken as crap. Then gradually fix it and if they ever finish it they make it free for people who didn't have to put up with the nonsense. That s*** is ridiculous. Refunds or not, unacceptable. Not to mention the prices of some of the games an hours worth of content for £7.99? Get out. It's hilarious how lazy and money grabbing half the games are which again is a great reason why comparing library sizes is stupid. |
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| Meowth | Jul 20 2015, 04:55 PM Post #40 |
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I'm guessing you didn't bother watching the video. Cool. |
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| Tinny | Jul 20 2015, 06:13 PM Post #41 |
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No, but the thing is that xbox one does this at all, like the fact that you need to update period to play the game... That's bad on pc, what is console doing that for? Not to mention split screen, easily the best thing about console gaming is dissipating in favor of.... Update downloads. And yes, PC is objectively better in every respect. Not perfect, and honestly it has allot more to do with consoles than pc, the consoles are giving up everything that makes them better to become worse computers. PCs have choices and mods and all that. Console does not. You can't use objectivity to describe people's preferences, but if we're talking about what is better, pc wins every time. And no they're not that much better related, and really is only a problem if you but things on day one, a practice I consider to be a bad habit honestly. That's a problem more with the store than anything, broken games make it on to pc all the time, mind hack and even fallout new Vegas are almost unplayable at times due to glitches never fixed. Btw new Vegas was seeking for about less then $10 on steam, same with skyrim, both games give far far FAR more content than what'd you expect for ten bucks. As long add you don't buy just anything and exercise good judgement in choosing a game, then you should be fine. Literally the only thing consoles at this point to better than pc, is marketing. Like the biggest hurdle is making a new pc, and that's almost legos really it's quite simple. And yeah, watch the video Cersei Lannister posted, it explains it this well. Honestly for me, consoles need to get back to being consoles, not PC lite. |
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| Dankness Lava | Jul 20 2015, 06:42 PM Post #42 |
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PC gaming is a lot of work, I don't want to be keeping up with it like that all the time. I play only older games on PC |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jul 20 2015, 07:12 PM Post #43 |
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Microsoft isn't the best place to look if you want to talk about Consoles turning into PCs; Microsoft are big in the PC business and it's natural that they'd want to integrate their Consoles into that. Sony and Nintendo, on the other hand, don't have experience in the PC market and, as a result, are much less likely to try and connect their consoles with PCs in any meaningful way. At most, I could see them releasing some of their exclusives on the PC platform, but I don't see them 'merging' with PCs at all; they'd much sooner drop out of the console race and focus solely on making games. |
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| Saberoph | Jul 20 2015, 09:37 PM Post #44 |
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I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happens, it'll probably come down to Microsoft and Steam...which wouldn't be a bad thing. I'm going any further than that here though...I already have a Thread for this, and I'll just end up turning this Thread into the other and there's no use in having two of the same Threads. Edited by Saberoph, Jul 20 2015, 09:37 PM.
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| Zoom | Jul 21 2015, 01:30 AM Post #45 |
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okay then, once developers start to take advantage on the pc, then i will agree with you. |
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never had even 1% as much trouble with any console you don't have to piss about with resolutions, graphic settings, figuring out if your machine can even run whatever game, setting up key bindings, setting up a controller if you wish to use one etc etc














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