How can democracy prevent corruption in politics?

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How can democracy prevent corruption in politics?
Tweet Topic Started: Jul 19 2015, 10:40 AM (517 Views)
Zoom	Jul 19 2015, 10:40 AM Post #1
Posts: 3,426 Group: Member Member #12,146 Joined: March 16, 2015 Gender Male	You always hear if you have a problem with your president or prime minister, write a letter or change your vote. The problem is how do we filter out the corruption on the highest level? For example. I'm sure most people here are right wing, left wing, or both or a mixture or depends on what the society needs. You have your Democrats and a Replicians, and i don't know the rest of parties. But my point is if some stupid politician is backed up by some wealthy rich pigs, and the candinate gets elected because of paid for votes, is there a way democracy can defend itself from corruption? This might be so stupid, but like from The Sums of Fear, or Hydra?



+ Pointer	Jul 19 2015, 10:44 AM Post #2
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	Corruption can not be stopped...only limited In democracy all the higher ranked politicians will do some dirty s*** in order to gain profit of what they do.... Greed is a thing in human society



Zoom	Aug 7 2015, 06:35 AM Post #3
Posts: 3,426 Group: Member Member #12,146 Joined: March 16, 2015 Gender Male	In Pakistan, most people know the politicians there are corrupt, but honest people cannot be voted in to help clean up the country.



TrunksinSwimmingTrunks	Aug 7 2015, 03:26 PM Post #4
Formerly known as daman Posts: 8,651 Group: Member Member #5,599 Joined: January 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Canada Favourite Anime One Piece, Gintama, You and Me, Haibane Renmei, Initial D, FMAB, No. 6, Wtt NHK! , Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Tortoises were made to live not be used. Stormo/Pedy/Nims/songohanfrancais whereru Favourite Manga Dorohedoro,IamaHero, Again!!, All Rounder Meguru,RRR,Berserk,Dragon Boru. Ninjajp/Slayerslice appeal	SSj4 Gotenks Aug 7 2015, 06:35 AM In Pakistan, most people know the politicians there are corrupt, but honest people cannot be voted in to help clean up the country. PTI have made strong efforts in KPK to get rid of corruption, such as their anti-corruption texting system. The biased press like PTV are in the way (you almost never see anytging about PTI on PTV News and when you do it's negative) and Punjab election rigging thanks to Nawaz Shariff's brother (reminiscent of Jeb Bush and George W Bush in the US 2000 elections). I see PTI winning eventually. People will see the good they are doing in KPK against corruption and the alleviation of the power shortages and their support will grow. I also do not think it is a coincidence that PTI's rise in KPK has coincided with a fall in terrorism. And more importantly they have changed the political culture. Even the other politicians are now copying PTI and trying to show themselves as being in favour of development and against corruption (like PML-N) and the way people are thinking about politics and fighting for a progression has changed, especially amongst youth. Even if PTI goes the mentality when it comes to pushing for change, encouraging clear debate (not like those political "debate" shows you see across the world) and analysing things will remain. To me corruption can be minimised with education against corruption from an early age/developing a culture of shame in corruption, especially amongst the class of people more likely to enter politics and also with incredibly tough sentences against corruption which hit people where it hurts them....their bank account/assets. They should be vilified and punished as bad as murderers (which they often are either directly or indirectly) and r a pists. Someone who holds so much power and still does greedy and bad things to others (often contributing to driving millions towards more hardship that could have been prevented if funds were not lost to corruption and those in power were spending their time thinking about how to make society more efficient for the citizenry rather than how to line their pockets with cash or land a nice job for after they leave politics) is so much we orse than someone who doesn't have much power. Schools also need to teach people critical thinking so they can more easily read between the lines and not just accept whatever is fed to them by politicians or the media (who often have owners who benefit from having corruptable leaders rather than leaders who are working in the interest of the people). There should also be measures to make sure you can't be heavily financially or personally linked to a political party and a major press organisation at the same time. It should not be like many countries like the UK and Pakistan (2 countries at different points in their life cycles I know) where corruption is rarely investigated and companies get away with huge tax evasion. I always see the Chinese government is investigating corruption and fining big companies like Mercedes (who accepted it and apologised) whereas I know in the UK the mentality is that if we fine big companies they will leave the UK and the UK will lose money, but frankly I see that as an excuse made by corrupt politicians and the press and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy because then the companies know they can scare the British people into not clamping down on tax evasion. Before anyone says the UK is not corrupt based on Transparency International keep in mind TI is funded by the very people who benefit from bribing politicians with jobs, which is why they don't include that as corruption in their investigations. Edited by TrunksinSwimmingTrunks, Aug 7 2015, 03:36 PM.
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Mihawk	Aug 7 2015, 03:46 PM Post #5
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	First world countries have fare less corruption in the ranks than second and third world countries. That's a statistically verifiable fact.



TrunksinSwimmingTrunks	Aug 7 2015, 03:49 PM Post #6
Formerly known as daman Posts: 8,651 Group: Member Member #5,599 Joined: January 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Canada Favourite Anime One Piece, Gintama, You and Me, Haibane Renmei, Initial D, FMAB, No. 6, Wtt NHK! , Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Tortoises were made to live not be used. Stormo/Pedy/Nims/songohanfrancais whereru Favourite Manga Dorohedoro,IamaHero, Again!!, All Rounder Meguru,RRR,Berserk,Dragon Boru. Ninjajp/Slayerslice appeal	Fiat Lux Aug 7 2015, 03:46 PM First world countries have fare less corruption in the ranks than second and third world countries. That's a statistically verifiable fact. This is true at low levels of government. High levels? Doubt it. Verifiable how?
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Mihawk	Aug 7 2015, 03:58 PM Post #7
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	TrunksinSwimmingTrunks Aug 7 2015, 03:49 PM Fiat Lux Aug 7 2015, 03:46 PM First world countries have fare less corruption in the ranks than second and third world countries. That's a statistically verifiable fact. This is true at low levels of government. High levels? Doubt it. Verifiable how? http://www.transparency.org/cpi2014/in_detail Tons of organizations that are made just to identify corruption with no other verifiable interests can tell you so. The one linked above is more or less a compilation of other transparency organizations aggregated into one. It's kind of ridiculous to say that they're all conspirators.



TrunksinSwimmingTrunks	Aug 7 2015, 05:02 PM Post #8
Formerly known as daman Posts: 8,651 Group: Member Member #5,599 Joined: January 6, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Canada Favourite Anime One Piece, Gintama, You and Me, Haibane Renmei, Initial D, FMAB, No. 6, Wtt NHK! , Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Tortoises were made to live not be used. Stormo/Pedy/Nims/songohanfrancais whereru Favourite Manga Dorohedoro,IamaHero, Again!!, All Rounder Meguru,RRR,Berserk,Dragon Boru. Ninjajp/Slayerslice appeal	Already said why TI is not a good measure Edit: they do not even recognise revolving door politics as corruption Edited by TrunksinSwimmingTrunks, Aug 7 2015, 05:05 PM.
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Mihawk	Aug 7 2015, 08:04 PM Post #9
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	TrunksinSwimmingTrunks Aug 7 2015, 05:02 PM Already said why TI is not a good measure Edit: they do not even recognise revolving door politics as corruption Quote: Secure and diverse funding enables Transparency International to undertake its vital work, maintain its independence and reputation, and operate effectively. Having a diverse donor base means that one of the many donors is gonna have a bad track record. That doesn't discredit the organization itself. All of the methods to measure are actually public, and if there were special interests involved in the aggregation (once again all they do is aggregate data) it could easily be spotted.



Zoom	Aug 8 2015, 05:52 AM Post #10
Posts: 3,426 Group: Member Member #12,146 Joined: March 16, 2015 Gender Male	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLLnGPWA1WU Imran Khan calls them mafia.



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