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What are your multipliers
Topic Started: Jul 10 2015, 08:15 PM (904 Views)
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I'd like to know you guys multiplers especially the fusion dance and pot area earrings but I'd like to also know your all the ssj no great and golden ape ones to
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SSJ: 50x
SSJ2: 5x
SSJ3: 5x
Fusion dance: Too unpredictable to put a solid value.
Potara: Larger than Dance method
SSJG: Large than Potara + Base-SSJ3 boost
Edited by Slifer, Jul 10 2015, 08:23 PM.
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What's your basis for 5x for Super Saiyan 2 and 3, Mr. Hashbrowns?
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Super Saiyan - 50x base
Super Saiyan 2 - 150x base [3x SS]
Super Saiyan 3 - 750x base [5x SS2]

Any form of fusion - plot

Super Saiyan [GT] - 2.5x base
Super Saiyan 2 [GT] - 3.125x base [1.25x SS]
Super Saiyan 3 [GT] - 6.25x base [2x SS2]
Golden Great Ape - 10x strongest SS form
Super Saiyan 4 - full potential unlock
Edited by Six Trails, Jul 10 2015, 08:28 PM.
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Jul 10 2015, 08:27 PM
Super Saiyan - 50x base
Super Saiyan 2 - 150x base [3x SS]
Super Saiyan 3 - 750x base [5x SS2]

Any form of fusion - plot

Super Saiyan [GT] - 2.5x base
Super Saiyan 2 [GT] - 3.125x base [1.25x SS]
Super Saiyan 3 [GT] - 6.25x base [2x SS2]
Golden Great Ape - 10x strongest SS form
Super Saiyan 4 - full potential unlock
Don't you even dare, Vegetto...

SSJ: 50x
SSJ2: 200x (4x SSJ)
SSJ3 : 800x (4x SSJ2)

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Jul 10 2015, 08:27 PM
What's your basis for 5x for Super Saiyan 2 and 3, Mr. Hashbrowns?
2x SSJ2 seems downright pitiful following up a 50x SSJ. I definitely don't think SSJ2 Kid Gohan was only 2x his MSSJ self. Whether that was partly due to a rage boost is up in the air.

I put SSJ3 at 5x for the sake of consistency.
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SSj (Pre Cell games): 50x
FPSSj: 10x
SSj2: 5x FPSSj
SSj3: 5x SSj2

Also, after FPSSj is reached, I believe that attack amps return; therefore it's almost as if they're not actually any weaker than they were pre FPSSj.
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Mr. Hashbrowns
Jul 10 2015, 08:40 PM
2x SSJ2 seems downright pitiful following up a 50x SSJ. I definitely don't think SSJ2 Kid Gohan was only 2x his MSSJ self. Whether that was partly due to a rage boost is up in the air.

I put SSJ3 at 5x for the sake of consistency.
I agree, that is seems pitiful, but can people really make up their own multipliers like that?
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Jul 10 2015, 08:48 PM
Mr. Hashbrowns
Jul 10 2015, 08:40 PM
2x SSJ2 seems downright pitiful following up a 50x SSJ. I definitely don't think SSJ2 Kid Gohan was only 2x his MSSJ self. Whether that was partly due to a rage boost is up in the air.

I put SSJ3 at 5x for the sake of consistency.
I agree, that is seems pitiful, but can people really make up their own multipliers like that?
Don't see why not. I don't recall anything plot-related that says a 5x SSJ2 multiplier can't work.
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Mr. Hashbrowns
Jul 10 2015, 08:50 PM
Don't see why not. I don't recall anything plot-related that says a 5x SSJ2 multiplier can't work.
It might seem illogical to someone that Gotenks SSJ1-pre training and/or base Gotenks-post training were actually stronger than SSJ3 Goku, and that he appeared to only claim as such in order to stall Boo and let someone else defeat him. The plot can still work in this way, but wouldn't you argue with someone that just because it seems illogical, stupid, or pitiful, doesn't mean they can disregard it?

I'm not trying to debate SSJ3 Goku > SSJ/Base Gotenks here, but questioning why something like this can't be up to the whim of the reader, but the strength increases can? They're officially stated, aren't they?
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Jul 10 2015, 08:58 PM
Mr. Hashbrowns
Jul 10 2015, 08:50 PM
Don't see why not. I don't recall anything plot-related that says a 5x SSJ2 multiplier can't work.
It might seem illogical to someone that Gotenks SSJ1-pre training and/or base Gotenks-post training were actually stronger than SSJ3 Goku, and that he appeared to only claim as such in order to stall Boo and let someone else defeat him. The plot can still work in this way, but wouldn't you argue with someone that just because it seems illogical, stupid, or pitiful, doesn't mean they can disregard it?

I'm not trying to debate SSJ3 Goku > SSJ/Base Gotenks here, but questioning why something like this can't be up to the whim of the reader, but the strength increases can? They're officially stated, aren't they?
I try not to mess with fusion increases and multipliers. They're random, chaotic, and more often than not make no sense.

Based off feats and statements, we have Base Gotenks post > SSJ Gotenks pre > SSJ3 Goku. Does it make sense for Gotenks to gain that much in that short of time? Of course not. But nothing contradicts that chain, so that's what I go with.
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Fair enough. I'm not saying you're wrong; I just wondered about your approach is all. You didn't strike me as the sort of person who would have their own muiltipliers.
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Oozaru: 10 times base
Kaioken: X times base.(X = number of times it is stacked)
Super Saiyan: 50 times base
Super Saiyan Grade 2: 1.5 times Super Saiyan
Super Saiyan Grade 3: 1.5 times Super Saiyan Grade 2
Legendary Super Saiyan: 2 times Super Saiyan, the user’s energy rises until the user’s body can’t take it anymore.
Super Saiyan Full Power: 50 times base. Note, the user can freely control their battle power.
Super Saiyan 2: 2 times Super Saiyan Full Power/100 times base
Super Saiyan 3: 4 times Super Saiyan 2/400 times base
Super Saiyan God: 6,000,000 times base
Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan(SSGSS): 50 times base, after absorbing Super Saiyan God.
Fusion: A + B x 5(50 for "rivals")
Potara: A x 100/(A/B)[1,000 for "rivals"]
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I think it's because I'm not a dbz freak anymore but I don't really use multipliers anymore. They simply get many times stronger to me, be it by transforming, fusing, etc. I'm very loose with what I believe the boosts are. I also think they change as the story progresses.

I believe Vegeta once said Saiyans can't have their power be figured out by numbers. I follow this statement more than any guidebook multipliers I suppose.
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Jul 10 2015, 09:18 PM
Legendary Super Saiyan: 2 times Super Saiyan, the user’s energy rises until the user’s body can’t take it anymore.
It's been confirmed by Herms that the constantly rising ki for Legendary SSj is a myth. It's not stated anywhere official.

He cites that the scene where Broly talks about his ki overflowing can be compared with King Piccolo's identical claim when he regains his youth from Shenlong.
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