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can Android 18 match SSj2 Goku
Topic Started: Jul 10 2015, 04:33 PM (843 Views)
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could Android 18, power rise, match up against SSJ 2 Goku?
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Not in her wildest dreams. Goku would be dozens of times stronger than her.
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Boo-arc SSJ2 Goku? Heavens no. He'd annihilate her with a flick.

If you mean a hypothetical Android-arc SSJ2 Goku, then I could still see Goku winning that with medium difficulty at most.

Edit: Boo-arc SSJ2 Goku > SSJ2 Kid Gohan ~ Super Perfect Cell > FP Perfect Cell > MSSJ Gohan > CG MSSJ Goku > CG Vegeta > CG Trunks > 50% Goku > USSJ Trunks > ASSJ Vegeta > Semi-Perfect Cell > Imperfect Cell post-humans ~ 16 > Kamiccolo ~ 17 > 18
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I doubt #18 could increase her power any more than your average human could. It won't be nearly enough.
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i think her power was set when she was transformed into cyborg.

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Jul 10 2015, 04:44 PM
Boo-arc SSJ2 Goku? Heavens no. He'd annihilate her with a flick.

If you mean a hypothetical Android-arc SSJ2 Goku, then I could still see Goku winning that with medium difficulty at most.

Edit: Boo-arc SSJ2 Goku > SSJ2 Kid Gohan ~ Super Perfect Cell > FP Perfect Cell > MSSJ Gohan > CG MSSJ Goku > CG Vegeta > CG Trunks > 50% Goku > USSJ Trunks > ASSJ Vegeta > Semi-Perfect Cell > Imperfect Cell post-humans ~ 16 > Kamiccolo ~ 17 > 18
What if #17 and #18 went at it together against Android arc SSJ2 Goku? If they're still unable to win then give them #16 as well.

As for the original question - I can't see how it would be possible for the cyborgs to increase their strength enough to match SSJ2 Goku from the manga. What power they do have was artificially created, it's not inherent to their organic body's potential. Now if they were given the energy absorption devices then I could see it being possible for them to amplify that artificial strength. By how much is unknown since we never saw what the uppermost ceiling was for energy that can be absorbed before the only two models were killed.
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Jul 10 2015, 05:06 PM
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Jul 10 2015, 04:44 PM
Boo-arc SSJ2 Goku? Heavens no. He'd annihilate her with a flick.

If you mean a hypothetical Android-arc SSJ2 Goku, then I could still see Goku winning that with medium difficulty at most.

Edit: Boo-arc SSJ2 Goku > SSJ2 Kid Gohan ~ Super Perfect Cell > FP Perfect Cell > MSSJ Gohan > CG MSSJ Goku > CG Vegeta > CG Trunks > 50% Goku > USSJ Trunks > ASSJ Vegeta > Semi-Perfect Cell > Imperfect Cell post-humans ~ 16 > Kamiccolo ~ 17 > 18
What if #17 and #18 went at it together against Android arc SSJ2 Goku? If they're still unable to win then give them #16 as well.

16 would wreck him solo. I'd put that SSJ2 Goku around 1.3x 17, so a bit too much for both he and 18 to handle.
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I was sure I saw an interview somewhere saying the Cyborgs could become stronger aswell.
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I think I remember that.

For now, I don't think she can get stronger. I don't think it's in her design.
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can 18 at least beat a base goku at the end of z?
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Jul 10 2015, 05:34 PM
can 18 at least beat a base goku at the end of z?
EoZ Base Goku >= Boo-arc SSJ2 Goku.
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Jul 10 2015, 05:34 PM
can 18 at least beat a base goku at the end of z?
Nope. With all the new evidence she definitely can't. It's heavily implied Base Goku and Vegeta have surpassed her by the time of the Boo arc.
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Toriyama did say the androids could increase their power due to being mostly human, but to cockamamey levels like the Saiyans? I tip my hat to someone who could sufficiently support that notion.
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Jul 10 2015, 05:34 PM
can 18 at least beat a base goku at the end of z?
Unless Goku became weaker than Base Boo saga Goten from 10 years of training, most likely not.
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