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Why do GT fans constantly say EoZ, BoG and FnF are all in the same timeline, even if new evidence?
Topic Started: Jul 4 2015, 11:37 PM (766 Views)
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Why do GT fans constantly say EoZ, BoG and FnF are all in the same timeline, even if new evidence shows otherwise?

I understand the Chōzenshū Volumes have placed them together because of time period
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball_timeline

and there is no such thing as canon in the Dragonball universe, but there is no evidence that ties them all together to Mr Toriyama's vision.

If we look at the Star Wars franchise (episodes 1 to 6), throughout the movies, characters and the story from one movie connects to the next either by them being there or other characters talking about them and their achievements, so it's one continuous flow.

Also, if we look at EoZ to BoG, Akira Toriyama himself explained it was Beerus that sealed Lord Kaioshin, so it has some connection to the manga. And with the new movies (FnF and maybe part III) and TV series (Super), we are shown Gohan losing his abilities to use higher transformation forms because of lack of training and both Goku and Vegeta seems to have kept there God powers.

For GT to be tie together, you'd have to come up with reasons to explain why Goten is so strong so that he could defeat Bebi on his own in his base form and why Trunks had trouble with earth #17, even though his base should be above or close Vegito's level and why Gohan all of sudden trained in GT where in FnF stated he was busy with other things.

Where's Wally?


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Goten (Japanese): Satan-san, this guy is in a different league from everyone else up to now!
Goten (English): Mr Satan, this guy is stronger than anyone we faced before.
Narrator (Japanese): However, will Goten be all right against Bebi, who has powered up one step higher?

You combine this with with what Trunks about Bebi being the strongest if let to grow, you can see my point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5VfaJlvVCw

go directly to 4,13

Everybody is entitled to their own opinions, I just think basing off what Trunks said about Bebi and what the dialogue stated, I think Goten meant he was the strongest enemy they have faced so far.


^ this is all goes back to the point about how EoZ, BoG and FnF and Super cannot all be in the same timeline.

The dialogue of GT cannot be matched with the new materials that's coming out. All the staff about being the strongest ki Goku ever felt, blah, blah cannot be used as evidence of one timeline.

All the new evidence (Toriyama) seems to be deliberately trying to connect DBZ with Super and BoG and FnF... Akira Toriyama has made no effort to try to connect his DBZ to GT. It's only some external source-guide book claiming they are all together and fans use that and use what Goku said about Bebi being the strongest ki.
Edited by Zoom, Jul 4 2015, 11:39 PM.
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Aside from it not mattering? Honestly, the gap between each series is on average 5 years, so the time frames aren't biggies. And the power thing? Baby being the most powerful force they've fought? Its called the sliding scale of villainy. EVERYONE has been the biggest threat they have ever face. So yeah, it still fits the themes.
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I'm mainly talking about as continuation. Since Cooler was never introduced in the manga, and i don't think he'll be in super either with the short time period.

Since GT shows Cooler, a non canon character within their series, i highly doubt GT is part of A. Toriyama's canon.
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Wait, wait, wait. The off handed inclusion of a character from another movie throws off your perception of the whole universe as two instead of the one?
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Jul 7 2015, 05:04 AM
Wait, wait, wait. The off handed inclusion of a character from another movie throws off your perception of the whole universe as two instead of the one?
I'm claiming that's one monkey wrench thrown into the GT ties together with DBZ manga, BoG and FnF and Super.

The second monkey wrench is A. Toriyama's interview claiming GT is a side-story.

The third wrench is, all new interviews and source materials by A. Toriyama states BoG and FnF are made as if it was a continution, while A. Toriyama specfically said GT is a side-story.

So please GT fans... just stop it, please stop it! :w00t:
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Bojack was also in Gt I believe.
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Jul 10 2015, 09:45 PM
Bojack was also in Gt I believe.
Bojack wasnt in GT.
Interesting enough tho he was in DR Slump
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Jul 7 2015, 07:48 AM
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Jul 7 2015, 05:04 AM
Wait, wait, wait. The off handed inclusion of a character from another movie throws off your perception of the whole universe as two instead of the one?
I'm claiming that's one monkey wrench thrown into the GT ties together with DBZ manga, BoG and FnF and Super.

The second monkey wrench is A. Toriyama's interview claiming GT is a side-story.

The third wrench is, all new interviews and source materials by A. Toriyama states BoG and FnF are made as if it was a continution, while A. Toriyama specfically said GT is a side-story.

So please GT fans... just stop it, please stop it! :w00t:
My only problem with BoG and I'm probably sure FnF (Haven't seen the movie, so don't tell me) is that it doesn't coincide with EoZ. Its still all in the same s***. GT still feels like it follows Z but EoZ sounded like Uub was going yo be the ultimate rematch, and BoG implicated it wasn't going to work. So regardless the continuity is all effed up brag.
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