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Neo vs. Your Favorite Superhero
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SuperSaiyan1993	Jul 3 2015, 03:42 PM Post #1
Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans Posts: 3,294 Group: Member Member #7,044 Joined: December 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Avatar	Plug your favorite superhero into the Matrix. He or she has their same powers, nothing added. Who can beat Neo?
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Tinny	Jul 3 2015, 03:49 PM Post #2
Posts: 6,061 Group: Super Moderator Member #12,355 Joined: May 24, 2015 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Silver Spoon, Fate/Zero, Legend of Galactic Heroes, Space Patrol Luluco, Psycho-pass, Miss Kobayashi What Browser do you use? Chrome, Edge Favourite Manga Wizard's Soul ~Holy War of Love~	SuperSaiyan1993 Jul 3 2015, 03:42 PM Plug your favorite superhero into the Matrix. He or she has their same powers, nothing added. Who can beat Neo? My favorite Superhero is Superman... Specifically All Star Superman... Superman shows him his strength, convinced him let him help, and then saves Earth again. Superman wins pretty much every time, he's simply too strong, agile, and has a wide variety of means to combat Neo. Unless he's under the effects of having no sun, Neo can't really do anything. Edited by Tinny, Jul 3 2015, 03:51 PM.
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lazerbem	Jul 3 2015, 03:50 PM Post #3
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Isn't Neo omnipotent by the end of the Matrix? Unless someone is allowed to plug themselves out of the Matrix, he's nearly unbeatable
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Tinny	Jul 3 2015, 03:52 PM Post #4
Posts: 6,061 Group: Super Moderator Member #12,355 Joined: May 24, 2015 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Silver Spoon, Fate/Zero, Legend of Galactic Heroes, Space Patrol Luluco, Psycho-pass, Miss Kobayashi What Browser do you use? Chrome, Edge Favourite Manga Wizard's Soul ~Holy War of Love~	lazerbem Jul 3 2015, 03:50 PM Isn't Neo omnipotent by the end of the Matrix? Unless someone is allowed to plug themselves out of the Matrix, he's nearly unbeatable From what I can tell he always could but manifested it as his superpowers. Which is likely what he's referring to. Edited by Tinny, Jul 3 2015, 03:59 PM.
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SuperSaiyan1993	Jul 3 2015, 04:03 PM Post #5
Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans Posts: 3,294 Group: Member Member #7,044 Joined: December 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Avatar	lazerbem Jul 3 2015, 03:50 PM Isn't Neo omnipotent by the end of the Matrix? Unless someone is allowed to plug themselves out of the Matrix, he's nearly unbeatable Not entirely. In Matrix Reloaded (the sequel), he blocked a sword with his hand, and although he stopped it, it cut him a little. Besides, even if you just want to deal with just the Matrix version of Neo, aren't there nearly unbeatable superheroes out there too like Superman, Hulk, Thor, etc?
	We Super Saiyans are in a league of our own.


lazerbem	Jul 3 2015, 04:08 PM Post #6
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	SuperSaiyan1993 Jul 3 2015, 04:03 PM lazerbem Jul 3 2015, 03:50 PM Isn't Neo omnipotent by the end of the Matrix? Unless someone is allowed to plug themselves out of the Matrix, he's nearly unbeatable Not entirely. In Matrix Reloaded (the sequel), he blocked a sword with his hand, and although he stopped it, it cut him a little. Besides, even if you just want to deal with just the Matrix version of Neo, aren't there nearly unbeatable superheroes out there too like Superman, Hulk, Thor, etc? They don't control the universe entirely. Also, I was referring to Matrix Revolution where he fights Smith, who was in full control of the Matrix, and wins. This battle is impossible for anyone else to win unless they are a technopath(that one is still debatable) or unplugging from the Matrix is allowed.
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SuperSaiyan1993	Jul 3 2015, 04:10 PM Post #7
Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans Posts: 3,294 Group: Member Member #7,044 Joined: December 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Avatar	lazerbem Jul 3 2015, 04:08 PM SuperSaiyan1993 Jul 3 2015, 04:03 PM lazerbem Jul 3 2015, 03:50 PM Isn't Neo omnipotent by the end of the Matrix? Unless someone is allowed to plug themselves out of the Matrix, he's nearly unbeatable Not entirely. In Matrix Reloaded (the sequel), he blocked a sword with his hand, and although he stopped it, it cut him a little. Besides, even if you just want to deal with just the Matrix version of Neo, aren't there nearly unbeatable superheroes out there too like Superman, Hulk, Thor, etc? They don't control the universe entirely. Also, I was referring to Matrix Revolution where he fights Smith, who was in full control of the Matrix, and wins. This battle is impossible for anyone else to win unless they are a technopath(that one is still debatable) or unplugging from the Matrix is allowed. What about the extremely powerful beings like Galactus or Phoenix? Surely someone in the halls of Marvel or DC stands a chance.
	We Super Saiyans are in a league of our own.


Tinny	Jul 3 2015, 04:22 PM Post #8
Posts: 6,061 Group: Super Moderator Member #12,355 Joined: May 24, 2015 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Silver Spoon, Fate/Zero, Legend of Galactic Heroes, Space Patrol Luluco, Psycho-pass, Miss Kobayashi What Browser do you use? Chrome, Edge Favourite Manga Wizard's Soul ~Holy War of Love~	SuperSaiyan1993 Jul 3 2015, 04:10 PM lazerbem Jul 3 2015, 04:08 PM SuperSaiyan1993 Jul 3 2015, 04:03 PM lazerbem Jul 3 2015, 03:50 PM Isn't Neo omnipotent by the end of the Matrix? Unless someone is allowed to plug themselves out of the Matrix, he's nearly unbeatable Not entirely. In Matrix Reloaded (the sequel), he blocked a sword with his hand, and although he stopped it, it cut him a little. Besides, even if you just want to deal with just the Matrix version of Neo, aren't there nearly unbeatable superheroes out there too like Superman, Hulk, Thor, etc? They don't control the universe entirely. Also, I was referring to Matrix Revolution where he fights Smith, who was in full control of the Matrix, and wins. This battle is impossible for anyone else to win unless they are a technopath(that one is still debatable) or unplugging from the Matrix is allowed. What about the extremely powerful beings like Galactus or Phoenix? Surely someone in the halls of Marvel or DC stands a chance. Xavier can probably telepathically assault Neo, I'm not sure how well he can resist mental assaults, that said he resisted Mr. Smith so he clouds resist that as well. WAIT I GOT ANOTHER! The Flash, can't wink someone out of existence if you're knocked out before you can blink. Edited by Tinny, Jul 3 2015, 04:25 PM.
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SuperSaiyan1993	Jul 3 2015, 04:40 PM Post #9
Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans Posts: 3,294 Group: Member Member #7,044 Joined: December 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Avatar	tin man Jul 3 2015, 04:22 PM SuperSaiyan1993 Jul 3 2015, 04:10 PM lazerbem Jul 3 2015, 04:08 PM SuperSaiyan1993 Jul 3 2015, 04:03 PM lazerbem Jul 3 2015, 03:50 PM Isn't Neo omnipotent by the end of the Matrix? Unless someone is allowed to plug themselves out of the Matrix, he's nearly unbeatable Not entirely. In Matrix Reloaded (the sequel), he blocked a sword with his hand, and although he stopped it, it cut him a little. Besides, even if you just want to deal with just the Matrix version of Neo, aren't there nearly unbeatable superheroes out there too like Superman, Hulk, Thor, etc? They don't control the universe entirely. Also, I was referring to Matrix Revolution where he fights Smith, who was in full control of the Matrix, and wins. This battle is impossible for anyone else to win unless they are a technopath(that one is still debatable) or unplugging from the Matrix is allowed. What about the extremely powerful beings like Galactus or Phoenix? Surely someone in the halls of Marvel or DC stands a chance. Xavier can probably telepathically assault Neo, I'm not sure how well he can resist mental assaults, that said he resisted Mr. Smith so he clouds resist that as well. WAIT I GOT ANOTHER! The Flash, can't wink someone out of existence if you're knocked out before you can blink. I like the ideas. However, as Iazerbem pointed out, I'm not sure how Matrix powers compare with superhero powers. Are they the supreme strength within the Matrix no matter what, or can they be surpassed by outside superhero powers? We've never seen Neo move as fast as The Flash, so I think he might be able to knock out Neo.
	We Super Saiyans are in a league of our own.


lazerbem	Jul 3 2015, 04:42 PM Post #10
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	SuperSaiyan1993 Jul 3 2015, 04:10 PM lazerbem Jul 3 2015, 04:08 PM SuperSaiyan1993 Jul 3 2015, 04:03 PM lazerbem Jul 3 2015, 03:50 PM Isn't Neo omnipotent by the end of the Matrix? Unless someone is allowed to plug themselves out of the Matrix, he's nearly unbeatable Not entirely. In Matrix Reloaded (the sequel), he blocked a sword with his hand, and although he stopped it, it cut him a little. Besides, even if you just want to deal with just the Matrix version of Neo, aren't there nearly unbeatable superheroes out there too like Superman, Hulk, Thor, etc? They don't control the universe entirely. Also, I was referring to Matrix Revolution where he fights Smith, who was in full control of the Matrix, and wins. This battle is impossible for anyone else to win unless they are a technopath(that one is still debatable) or unplugging from the Matrix is allowed. What about the extremely powerful beings like Galactus or Phoenix? Surely someone in the halls of Marvel or DC stands a chance. Still not enough. If you're in the Matrix, you've already lost. He can take away all of your powers because he can play with the code of the Matrix. When you're in the Matrix, you're lines of code. Because of this, as the effective admin of the entire system, he can't lose unless he wants to. Quote: Xavier can probably telepathically assault Neo, I'm not sure how well he can resist mental assaults, that said he resisted Mr. Smith so he clouds resist that as well. WAIT I GOT ANOTHER! The Flash, can't wink someone out of existence if you're knocked out before you can blink. He can control the Matrix's code, Flash's speed only exists by his will if he's in the Matrix.
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Tinny	Jul 3 2015, 04:44 PM Post #11
Posts: 6,061 Group: Super Moderator Member #12,355 Joined: May 24, 2015 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Silver Spoon, Fate/Zero, Legend of Galactic Heroes, Space Patrol Luluco, Psycho-pass, Miss Kobayashi What Browser do you use? Chrome, Edge Favourite Manga Wizard's Soul ~Holy War of Love~	SuperSaiyan1993 Jul 3 2015, 04:40 PM tin man Jul 3 2015, 04:22 PM SuperSaiyan1993 Jul 3 2015, 04:10 PM lazerbem Jul 3 2015, 04:08 PM SuperSaiyan1993 Jul 3 2015, 04:03 PM lazerbem Jul 3 2015, 03:50 PM Isn't Neo omnipotent by the end of the Matrix? Unless someone is allowed to plug themselves out of the Matrix, he's nearly unbeatable Not entirely. In Matrix Reloaded (the sequel), he blocked a sword with his hand, and although he stopped it, it cut him a little. Besides, even if you just want to deal with just the Matrix version of Neo, aren't there nearly unbeatable superheroes out there too like Superman, Hulk, Thor, etc? They don't control the universe entirely. Also, I was referring to Matrix Revolution where he fights Smith, who was in full control of the Matrix, and wins. This battle is impossible for anyone else to win unless they are a technopath(that one is still debatable) or unplugging from the Matrix is allowed. What about the extremely powerful beings like Galactus or Phoenix? Surely someone in the halls of Marvel or DC stands a chance. Xavier can probably telepathically assault Neo, I'm not sure how well he can resist mental assaults, that said he resisted Mr. Smith so he clouds resist that as well. WAIT I GOT ANOTHER! The Flash, can't wink someone out of existence if you're knocked out before you can blink. I like the ideas. However, as Iazerbem pointed out, I'm not sure how Matrix powers compare with superhero powers. Are they the supreme strength within the Matrix no matter what, or can they be surpassed by outside superhero powers? We've never seen Neo move as fast as The Flash, so I think he might be able to knock out Neo. That is the question, I was personally going with default neo for this, but I think anyone sneaky enough or fast enough can win this. @Lazerbem While that is true, I think that requires knowing his opponent before hand and taking steps for that. He's not Omniscient, Flash can surprise him. Edited by Tinny, Jul 3 2015, 04:47 PM.
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lazerbem	Jul 3 2015, 04:52 PM Post #12
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	He is omniscient, well, omniscient to the Matrix. He can feel and see every single line of code.
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SuperSaiyan1993	Jul 3 2015, 04:57 PM Post #13
Super Saiyan among Super Saiyans Posts: 3,294 Group: Member Member #7,044 Joined: December 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Avatar	lazerbem Jul 3 2015, 04:52 PM He is omniscient, well, omniscient to the Matrix. He can feel and see every single line of code. If Neo is as powerful as you say, how could a lowly minion of the Merovingian make him bleed in the Matrix Reloaded then? How was he forced to retreat from the army of Agent Smiths in the Matrix Reloaded? How did he have a stalemate match with Seraph in the Matrix Reloaded? I understand that Neo will probably end up being the most powerful being in the Matrix, but from what we've been given, I don't think he is invincible.
	We Super Saiyans are in a league of our own.


Tinny	Jul 3 2015, 04:58 PM Post #14
Posts: 6,061 Group: Super Moderator Member #12,355 Joined: May 24, 2015 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Silver Spoon, Fate/Zero, Legend of Galactic Heroes, Space Patrol Luluco, Psycho-pass, Miss Kobayashi What Browser do you use? Chrome, Edge Favourite Manga Wizard's Soul ~Holy War of Love~	lazerbem Jul 3 2015, 04:52 PM He is omniscient, well, omniscient to the Matrix. He can feel and see every single line of code. Hmmm... Well to even the playing field, what if you take out reality warping in regards to his opponent? I'm not quite sure how to explain that, but it should at least provide a fight rather than him blinking everyone away. No reality warping hax I suppose.
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lazerbem	Jul 3 2015, 05:01 PM Post #15
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	SuperSaiyan1993 Jul 3 2015, 04:57 PM lazerbem Jul 3 2015, 04:52 PM He is omniscient, well, omniscient to the Matrix. He can feel and see every single line of code. If Neo is as powerful as you say, how could a lowly minion of the Merovingian make him bleed in the Matrix Reloaded then? How was he forced to retreat from the army of Agent Smiths in the Matrix Reloaded? How did he have a stalemate match with Seraph in the Matrix Reloaded? I understand that Neo will probably end up being the most powerful being in the Matrix, but from what we've been given, I don't think he is invincible. I'm referring to him at the end of Matrix Revolutions. Before that, he was powerful, but he wasn't basically the Matrix itself. As of the end of the series, he's pretty much the Matrix itself and his only enemy is a computer virus(Agent Smith), as it can attack the Matrix at a coding level. Quote: Hmmm... Well to even the playing field, what if you take out reality warping in regards to his opponent? I'm not quite sure how to explain that, but it should at least provide a fight rather than him blinking everyone away. No reality warping hax I suppose. His powers are solely from reality warping. Super strength, speed, and all that jazz only comes because he believes himself to have it.
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