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The Future of the Gaming Industry.
Topic Started: Jun 26 2015, 11:46 PM (1,623 Views)
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Can't imagine Nintendo forking out to have a console-PC hybrid thing they'll probably have the last actual console.


Wonder what Sony will do? Presumably they wouldn't be able to have a Windows 10 based OS...
Maybe I guess but they'll have to do a heck of a lot to make it different from the X1.


Suppose it could be smart of them to build their own somewhat PC OS, not in the leagues of Windows but decent and then have a customizable console-PC thing. If they can't get their hands on a good proper PC OS that's probably their best option, people would go crazy for being able to put whatever they want in the thing.
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Jun 27 2015, 03:16 AM

sn't the NX a mobile platform? Not sure if that was confirmed or not.
It's gonna be an actual console
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As much as it pains me to say, Sony's not going to be able to sustain long-term. They may pull out of the console market since the company as a whole is literally bleeding money because of all the recent scandals and hacks and security or lack thereof. Microsoft on the other hand doesn't have to deal with the same situation, so they'll still be here. Nintendo has so much money in the gaming market that it is possible for them to fail the next three generations console-wise and still be comfortably off. Given how their track record tends to be success-fail there's nothing to worry about. What everyone should be worrying about is the fact that there will only be two consoles competing rather than three. Unless another heavy-hitter steps in to deal some heavy blows it will only be Microsoft and Nintendo.

Another thing is we are likely to see another gaming crash if developer/publisher relationships don't change. This will undoubtedly hurt the console gaming market, PC's will be unaffected and instead may prosper as they did during the first gaming crash back in the eighties. Microsoft's heavy reliance on Third Party will hurt them, so they'll either run quality control ala Nintendo or will turn instead to first party. You'll essentially get what most console fanboys claim all the time, that consoles are there for their exclusives rather than anything else. That and gimmicks.
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.

I highly doubt that. PlayStation is the only thing getting Sony any profit, they'll sell other assets wayyy before they drop it.

Nintendo is least likely to survive considering more and more people care about hardware these days and their stuff is always weakest, where would they be without children? Imagine one of the other two started making great games for kids they'd be done.

As third party and indie developers get better and better at what they do Nintendo is going to see some serious drawbacks to having little to no support for them.


Another crash is virtually impossible gaming is way too popular today for that to happen. Back then it wasn't all that popular now IIRC it's surpassed the porn industry or is about even with it.
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I hope Nintendo doesn't make a console that is powerful enough to run every game like Sony and Microsoft are doing. Nintendo needs to keep doing their thing, because that's what they are. They are still doing great with the 3DS and that's not gonna change, they own the handheld market. I hate the notion that they have to adapt to survive, because they are not doing anything wrong, it's us that expect too much.
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Will we ever see Sega come out with a new console?


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Will we ever see Sega come out with a new console?
Nope, they don't have the budget to make a console. They are barely holding on making games.
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@Squall: Sony is still playing with the idea of being a software only company, so that's not totally out of the question.

@Nagito: We've heard that before, and it didn't last long. I want to be positive and now with the passing of Iwata things are probably going to change and Nintendo could really be behind Third Party Developers now, but I'll believe it when I see it.

@Emmith: But that's the gaming industry, you do have to adapt to survive. Heck, that's technology period...if you don't adapt you die.

I really don't want to see either of the Three die or have to become Handheld or Software only, I would rather see them all survive and succeed and in a perfect world that's what would happen, but with the way things are now...I would be surprised if Nintendo stayed with Consoles and more than likely jumped into the Mobile market completely and abandoned the Console market.

Now on to Microsoft...well, they've made it clear they don't care about the gamers, which is a slap in the face, but I think Phil Spencer is slowly changing their minds but at this point I think if he were to ever leave, Microsoft would just go back to making the same stupid DRM decisions they were making before. A lot of people have already written off the Xbox One, but remember how long it took the Playstation 3 to bounce back, so far the Xbox is bouncing back faster than the PS3 did, so I really don't think the console should be written off just yet. However, with that being said...I think it's completely ridiculous that the Xbox One looks like a freaking VCR, yes I understand Microsoft was trying to prevent the same overheating issues with the 360, but with today's technology it looked more like Microsoft was just trying to cut corners and not even try to make the technology smaller...and that's coming from a loyal Microsoft customer for Fourteen years.

I know I'm probably the only one here who thinks exactly this, but unless all three companies make changes this could end horrible for all of them.
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.

Yeah Microsoft really needs to be less greedy, a company needs to make money but there's no respect for a company that's just like "TAKE EVERYTHING, WE CAN BUY THAT, DO IT" it seems desperate, if they can't make the X1 good in it's own right they're doing it wrong.

Yeah the X1 looks horrid it's just a black brick really, I can see why they want to avoid overheating because the PS4 does get quite hot sometimes but it's easily remedied by having it elevated or just not having it on for like 12 hours at a time.

The X1 has an awfully big and inconvenient design, that power brick is ridiculous too I remember watching AngryJoe's unboxing and just wtf that would barely fit in my set up right now I'd have to pull the TV unit forward.


Nintendo needs to make big changes they're too interested in doing their own thing while Sony and Microsoft will survive by going with the flow of the industry. Innovation here and there, instead of doing big gimmicky things and calling it revolutionary.
If they're not delving in to more powerful hardware they're going to see serious backlash, people care too much about it now.

Even if they supposedly have the money to survive a bad gen they still need people to have faith in them, many people have already lost it and are continuing to do so as the Wii-U and it's games fail to impress.
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I just hope Phil Spencer stays around for a long time, because without him Microsoft will make the same stupid decisions again and will turn their backs on the gamers too. I really wish they didn't feel that way, because imagine if they owned the PC market(Technically they have a hand in it, but Steam is the main player), Nintendo and Sony couldn't compare and Microsoft would leave the Consoles to those two and Sony would end up owning the Console market without any real competition.

I don't know if this is true, but I heard Microsoft is trying to buy AMD, which is a brilliant move for multiple reasons. 1. Sony and Nintendo use an AMD processor, so Microsoft would know their competitions hardware from the very beginning. 2. AMD now makes Graphic Cards, so they will have their hands in the hardware race which will allow them to keep up with advancements in hardware and will make their next Console more efficient. 3. If Microsoft is planning on being the first to bridge the gap between Console and PC, this will give them a tactical advantage over everything and this would make Microsoft the company to beat.
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Q&A With Me.
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Dragon Ball Game Talk.
http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8410747/1/
Dragon Ball Game Talk 2.0
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My Broli Idea.
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I think this an important piece of news...not only will you be able to use the Xbox Interface on Windows 10, but you'll have access to all the achievements and what becomes backwards compatible on the Xbox One will also be playable on Windows 10 as well.

Not sure if I brought that up or not, but I think it's important. This tells me that at least Microsoft is going the PC route...who knows it may come down to Sony and Nintendo being the only competition on Consoles, I'm down with that.

It would be neat if there still was a portable version of Windows 10 that works like a Console, but like a PC you can choose what hardware goes in it and you can upgrade anything without voiding the warranty.

Thoughts on that idea?

Edit: This is interesting and gives Microsoft keeps giving us a much clearer picture what direction they're going.

http://www.gamesradar.com/heres-point-mouse-support-coming-xbox-one/?tag=grsocial-20

Thoughts?
Edited by Saberoph, Jul 22 2015, 10:18 PM.
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.

Yeah it's obvious the Xbox as a console is going to be nonexistent soon.

I think they might go with something like what you said.


The Xbox will be literally that, a box. Basically just a PC case with Xbox branding and maybe some Xbox specific hardware.

Like say you get an i7 it'll work in the machine but there will also be an Xbox branded i7 that will be cheaper and will ONLY work in the Xbox casing.
They'll keep the brand and give reasons for you to use it such as that, giving you cheap PC parts to hook you in and making up the difference with things like XBL, eventually it will pay for itself.

Though unless you can't get Steam or Origin on it there's not much reason to have an XBL subscription so that's gonna need re-working.


I think that's basically what's going to happen with all of them, just Microsoft are making it blatantly clear they're going in that direction and most likely they'll get there first.
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Yeah, I'll be surprised if we have another Xbox Console generation...it'll more likely be on PC with an Xbox interface.

With the Xbox Live thing, they could offer exclusive features only to Xbox Live and just lower the price again but this time permanently. That way you can still use Xbox Live at a cheaper price, and get exclusives that you can only get there. I doubt they'll do that, but it could work and I think it could if done right.

It makes you wonder how long they've been working on everything behind the scenes, because first we hear they'll be an Xbox Interface on Windows 10, then you'll be able to play Xbox One games on Windows 10, then Xbox 360 games are becoming backwards compatible now, and now you're going to be able to use a keyboard and mouse on Xbox One.

Is it just me or do I smell a future of an Xbox Interface on Windows 10 where you can play the Original Xbox, 360 and Xbox One games on Windows? I hope there's exclusive features you can only get for having an Xbox/Windows account...that would be neat. Because let's face it, you Xbox Gamertag and Windows account will be one in the same, I hope they do the same with Windows Credit, Bing Points and Xbox Live Money, it's the next logical step if they're combining PC and Console.
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Dragon Ball Game Talk 2.0
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.

Yeah I can see that with the gamertag, Windows 8 already tries to shove Xbox down your throat even though you don't opt for it, they clearly intent to blend Windows and Xbox together in some way.

Lol imagine they called it WinBox? That would be bold and hilarious.


Wouldn't it be cool if upon merging Microsoft became the supreme giant of the gaming industry and then Sony and Nintendo set aside their differences from way back and worked together to create a platform of equal awesomeness?

I doubt it could ever happen but it would be epic.


I wonder if Sony and Nintendo will HAVE to make their own OS's in order to progress or if Microsoft will allow their products to be distributed through Windows? Like if PlayStation and Nintendo became the same as Steam and Origin are now.
It'd be kinda weird for them to just accept the competition like that but then I'd imagine they'd be in for a cut of the profits so how could they resist.
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