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Anakin Skywalker vs Gohan; Who has the greater potential
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Who has the greater potential between the two?

In my eyes, the force is pretty much the same thing as chi.

If Skywalker was trained by King Kai and Whiss, I think he should be able to be greatest.
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Balance to the Force vs Strongest in the Universe.

Conceived by Alien Kung-Fu Jesus vs Conceived by The Essence of the Universe itself. Really hard to quantify those things. I guess technically I'd give Anakin the edge since Ki has a finite limit based on biology and body condition. The Force, it's not quite as clearly defined and is a lot more flexible. So... Anakin. That and let's face it, he's got a much more solid track record, so he'd probably embrace his potential the most and get even more out of it.
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Darth Plagueis is responsible for Anakin, right Ace?
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Jun 24 2015, 04:07 AM
Darth Plagueis is responsible for Anakin, right Ace?
Darth Sidious made a comment which i think explained the birth of Skywalker.

But yes, you are correct.
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Well, Vader among the best fighter of his time, nearly unbeatable in combat, has mastered all forms of lightsaber combat, and has an incredible strength in the force. Able to pierce most Jedi's force barriers.
And this is essentially Anakin crippled, literally in regards to the force. If he hasn't lost... Most of his body and sense of feeling besides pain, I imagine he'd eventually faaaaar outstrip Gohan. In addition he was considered to be a replacement to what was essentially the force that keeps light and dark in balance iirc.
Yeah, I'm giving this to Anakin.
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Jun 24 2015, 04:17 AM
Well, Vader among the best fighter of his time, nearly unbeatable in combat, has mastered all forms of lightsaber combat, and has an incredible strength in the force. Able to pierce most Jedi's force barriers.
And this is essentially Anakin crippled, literally in regards to the force. If he hasn't lost... Most of his body and sense of feeling besides pain, I imagine he'd eventually faaaaar outstrip Gohan. In addition he was considered to be a replacement to what was essentially the force that keeps light and dark in balance iirc.
Yeah, I'm giving this to Anakin.
Don't get too far of yourself, i was only talking about potential and if Skywalker was trained under a master.

don't forget the most powerful thing in the Star wars universe was the death star which was only a planet destroyer.

The Sith lord sidious most powerful attack is only the lighting attack.
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Jun 24 2015, 04:53 AM
tin man
Jun 24 2015, 04:17 AM
Well, Vader among the best fighter of his time, nearly unbeatable in combat, has mastered all forms of lightsaber combat, and has an incredible strength in the force. Able to pierce most Jedi's force barriers.
And this is essentially Anakin crippled, literally in regards to the force. If he hasn't lost... Most of his body and sense of feeling besides pain, I imagine he'd eventually faaaaar outstrip Gohan. In addition he was considered to be a replacement to what was essentially the force that keeps light and dark in balance iirc.
Yeah, I'm giving this to Anakin.
Don't get too far of yourself, i was only talking about potential and if Skywalker was trained under a master.

don't forget the most powerful thing in the Star wars universe was the death star which was only a planet destroyer.

The Sith lord sidious most powerful attack is only the lighting attack.
Well there is the force storm that basically creates a worm hole and can destroy the surface of a planet. Sidious managed to do that and kidnap luke after his death, but another Sith created an object called the darkstaff that could do it as well.

And actually it's not nearly the most powerful, iirc there are such things as the thought bomb, which essentially traps souls in eternal torment for a large radius(though not planet busting I believe, also a creation of the force, and the cosmic turbine, that when mishandled destroyed a solar system.

As for getting too far ahead, what I'm trying to say is that Vader is Anakin with potential pretty much destroyed and crippled for life, if Vader is that, then if anakin hadn't been crippled on mustafar, he would have very likely give much farther then he did with half his body being metal (force is only usable by living tissue, not metal, it's why force sensitive droids don't exist) and having to essentially be on pain killers all the time.
If given optimal surroundings I believe that Anakin could go much farther than Gohan, and honestly Gohan isn't really prone to training himself honestly, he became a scholar rather than continue training, and this would likely hurt his growth potential.

I suppose one could say that Gohan can be a planet buster and Anakin can only make worm holes at best, but that becomes a bit of an issue when assuming ki and the force are the same. Ki relies on the body, kind, and spirit, while the force is incredibly strong with an old short green man that needs a walking stick near the end of his life.
I do still think that anakin has more potential for growth, Gohan just doesn't seem very willing in the first place to train, and thus would likely have his pursuit of his potential suffer.
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No no, Tin he doesn't care who could theoretically win a fight. He's wondering who has the greatest potential to... Well fundamentally be a god. The bug thing about Gohan is his potential and power are more directly linked. Gohan has warriors potential and was the ultimate instrument of destruction.

Whereas Skywalker is a bit more... Potentially cosmic. The strongest Jedi and Sith were borderline reality warpers. Battle meditation, planetary corruption, force bombs, malestroms, and the ability to create life itself. Being that Skywalker is the chosen one, by canon he has THE absolute strongest connection with the force, light and dark as seen in the Mortis Arc of Clone Wars season 3. The personified Light Side and Dark Side crumbled under his might. So at absolute full power with his potential reached he would BE the Force, deiety to Jedi and Sith a lot. It comes down to Gohan as God's Champion and Anakin being God period. Its amazingly close, but Skywalker is just potentially that good.

And yeah Prof, I think one of the Sidious books explains thay Plageius worked on Anakin as the final project with his midichlorin research before Sidius killed him. The off handed mention is made during Episode III, so its pretty Canon. Like G-Canon. I'm sure there was an interview with Lucas too, but there's enough in the series to make it so.
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Jun 24 2015, 06:20 PM
No no, Tin he doesn't care who could theoretically win a fight. He's wondering who has the greatest potential to... Well fundamentally be a god. The bug thing about Gohan is his potential and power are more directly linked. Gohan has warriors potential and was the ultimate instrument of destruction.

Whereas Skywalker is a bit more... Potentially cosmic. The strongest Jedi and Sith were borderline reality warpers. Battle meditation, planetary corruption, force bombs, malestroms, and the ability to create life itself. Being that Skywalker is the chosen one, by canon he has THE absolute strongest connection with the force, light and dark as seen in the Mortis Arc of Clone Wars season 3. The personified Light Side and Dark Side crumbled under his might. So at absolute full power with his potential reached he would BE the Force, deiety to Jedi and Sith a lot. It comes down to Gohan as God's Champion and Anakin being God period. Its amazingly close, but Skywalker is just potentially that good.

And yeah Prof, I think one of the Sidious books explains thay Plageius worked on Anakin as the final project with his midichlorin research before Sidius killed him. The off handed mention is made during Episode III, so its pretty Canon. Like G-Canon. I'm sure there was an interview with Lucas too, but there's enough in the series to make it so.
Oh, I suppose I got stuck on potential as a fighter, or destructive potential.
Admittedly in terms of cosmic power, Skywalker probably still wins just from the nature of the force compared to ki.
In any case, I do think Anakin can go farther, simply because his mastery of the force was still amazing as a cripple, admittedly this is combat, as I'm taking his ability to forceI choke trained Jedi, but I think this a good indicator over how strong in the force he is.
And yes, season three mortis was exactly what I was referring to with him being a candidate for being... I suppose a God of the force.
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Jun 24 2015, 04:09 AM
Professor Gohan
Jun 24 2015, 04:07 AM
Darth Plagueis is responsible for Anakin, right Ace?
Darth Sidious made a comment which i think explained the birth of Skywalker.

But yes, you are correct.
If I recall correctly, I believe the EU says something about how the Force conceived Anakin to counter Plaugeis's meddling with midichlorians.

I don't know if this is accurate though.

Does anyone know?
We Super Saiyans are in a league of our own.
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