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Home Alone Kid vs Jigsaw
Topic Started: Jun 23 2015, 11:49 PM (931 Views)
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Given the resources in a hardware store and a day's worth of prep time, who is deadlier? Home Alone kid I think is more creative whilst Jigsaw requires large and complex rigs
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...I did not know I wanted this show down.
I think I agree, jigsaw from what I've seen needs allot of time before he can do anything crazy, the kid on the other hand, while he never assumed to kill and didn't kill anyone, managed some maddening traps in a shockingly little amount of time. Make him want to kill... Jigsaw I think is going down. Besides, jigsaw is more of a torture technician I think.
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I thought the kids best feat was outsmarting common thieves.
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Jun 23 2015, 11:55 PM
I thought the kids best feat was outsmarting common thieves.
Admittedly, but he still set up a good of traps while doing so.
Jigsaw, at least in the first movie seemed to rely on having his victims in an already compromised position.
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Jigsaw > Detectives > liars > common thieves.
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If he offers him plenty of toys, I feel getting the kid stuck would be fairly easy for Jigsaw. The kid may be smarter than the average dolt in the movies, but I think Jigsaw could prove fearsome if he plays his cards right. But I'm going to be honest, I don't know all that much about the Saw movies.
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Jigsaw outsmarted veteran detectives who had studied him and his cases for months or even years, as well as a bunch of SWAT members. I don't think Kevin McAllister would be able to lay waste to someone like him.
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That was with complicated tech that you don't find in a hardware store. Those shotgun traps don't exactly work if you're limited to those kinds of supplies. Kevin, on the other hand, has rigged houses into death traps with far less.

His best feat is making a house that is deadly several times over with bare supplies. The fact that the thieves survived that level of punishment is quite frankly superhuman, any normal person would probably be unconscious or dead from the crap they endure.
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I seem to remember a lot of his traps being rather basic with the equipment. I haven't seen his movies in a while, though.
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Jun 24 2015, 01:22 AM
I seem to remember a lot of his traps being rather basic with the equipment. I haven't seen his movies in a while, though.
You mean the kind he set up for drugged victims or the kind for cops? Because the kind for cops was basically nothing but shotguns and cyanide pills, not the kind of stuff you find in a hardware store. The traps for victims are typically applied to the victim himself/herself and it would be rather unfair if he got that kind of prep advantage(slapping it onto Kevin while he's sleeping. If that's allowed, Kevin can drop a brick on the old man's head while he's sleeping and be done with it). The traps for victims also usually encompass entire rooms and scenarios owing to Jigsaw's psychosis. Kevin's are more simple and more effective because he's not trying to offer some message, he's just going to defend himself.

Also, in a physical fight, I'm not too confident of John's chances unless he brings a knife or something with him. He's a cancer ridden old man who ended up dying less than half way through his franchise.
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Fair point there. I can't be arsed to go back through all of the traps to tediously pick at.

I don't think either competitor is a worthy fighter. Kevin is self-explanatory, and Jigsaw is an old cancer patient. He did take a beating from one of the detectives and not get KO'd, so maybe that's something Kevin wouldn't have been able to do.
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That's more due to pain tolerance then anything else, he said so himself. His pain tolerance stems mostly from being in extreme pain 24/7, therefore, it's not strange to him. That's not to say that he won't die from getting a brick dropped on his head
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Though this is more like a contest of who can make the deadliest house rather than a direct versus. Probably test it with random people.
Basically unless heavy lifting comes into play I can't imagine their physique playing a part in this.
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Jigsaw outsmarted veteran detectives who had studied him and his cases for months or even years, as well as a bunch of SWAT members. I don't think Kevin McAllister would be able to lay waste to someone like him.
At the same time, jigsaw has a time limit, and I don't think his traps are quick to set up, though I could be wrong. I do think the kid has more talent and experience with this type of challenge.
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Yeah, I don't think he'd survive that kind of trauma to the brain. I don't see him being fast enough to escape any traps either.
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