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God powerup and fusion increases; What is the reason's why Goku and Vegeta don't want to use Gogeta/Vegito?
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Zoom	Jun 23 2015, 02:07 AM Post #1
Posts: 3,426 Group: Member Member #12,146 Joined: March 16, 2015 Gender Male	In the latest movie, FnF, Beerus and Whiss claims if Goku and Vegeta teamed up, they could win against Golden Frieza. In the previous movie, BoG, Goku states not even fusion can win against Beerus. So my question is, is the God power-up that much bigger than fusion/potara increase? and What is the reason's why Goku and Vegeta don't want to use Gogeta/Vegito? Or do you think they are saving the god fusion for the last enemy? Edited by Zoom, Jun 24 2015, 04:12 AM.



Slifer	Jun 23 2015, 02:12 AM Post #2
Posts: 3,488 Group: Member Member #10,141 Joined: September 7, 2013	Potara took MSSJ Goku and Vegeta from below FP Perfect Cell and put their fusion above Boohan. That same Vegetto, or possibly an even stronger version (assuming Goku was referencing Potara) was stated to be useless against Beerus. Yet SSJG Goku can challenge nearly 70% of his power. SSJG boost >>>>> either fusion.



+ Solid Snake	Jun 23 2015, 02:13 AM Post #3
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Your question is answered in BoG friend. Goku stated that SSJG is so unbelievably strong that he thought a realm of power could never be achieved. Thus you have SSJG >>?>> Potara >> Dance Edited by Solid Snake, Jun 23 2015, 02:14 AM.
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jun 23 2015, 03:05 AM Post #4
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Fusion is weaker than SSJ God, as Goku states fusion would not be enough to defeat Beerus. Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, Jun 23 2015, 03:06 AM.
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TheACE	Jun 23 2015, 03:30 AM Post #5
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	I think the big problem with fusion is the fact that it makes you an insufferable jackass. With the proportionate exponential power increase from fusion, there's a quadratic increase in a character's typical jackassery. For example, the normal prideful cockiness of Vegeta multiplied with Goku's general desire for a challenge making him uncomfortably reckless becomes X in this equation. Where X = Vegetto being so unbearably over the top that not only does he ignore the fact that he has the power to instantly save the universe and end a ridiculously exhausting saga, he also goes out of his way to prolong a filler fight and then directly go against logic and get himself defused. Granted he didn't understand the effect of Majin Magic on Kai magic, but seriously. Even Vegeta hates Vegetto, and he IS Vegetto. Gotenks is just as bad, the only thing that reduces the integers is the fact that Goten has no personality in Z to add to Trunks' unreasonable stupidity. Lol sorry just had to put that out there. I'm sure plot is part of the power jump, but I suppose apparently god mode has a technically higher boost. But again, the success rate of God Mode is pretty much as abyssal as fusion's is. So, ~~I'm almost~~ I am ~~willing to believe~~ going to go on record at this point with this: Mad Hax Courage, Tenacity, and Pride boosts > God Mode >/= Fusion Boost.
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GokuBlaze	Jun 23 2015, 10:51 PM Post #6
Posts: 1,091 Group: Member Member #8,950 Joined: January 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga DBZ	I think it wouldnt be possible to fuse in God form
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jun 24 2015, 12:42 AM Post #7
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	TheACE Jun 23 2015, 03:30 AM Vegetto being so unbearably over the top that not only does he ignore the fact that he has the power to instantly save the universe and end a ridiculously exhausting saga, he also goes out of his way to prolong a filler fight and then directly go against logic and get himself defused. Granted he didn't understand the effect of Majin Magic on Kai magic, but seriously. What are you talking about? Vegetto prolonged the fight so that Boo would absorb him so he could save Goten, Trunks, Piccolo, and Gohan. He wasn't just messing around for the sake of messing around.
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Zoom	Jun 24 2015, 03:43 AM Post #8
Posts: 3,426 Group: Member Member #12,146 Joined: March 16, 2015 Gender Male	Solid Snake Jun 23 2015, 02:13 AM Your question is answered in BoG friend. Goku stated that SSJG is so unbelievably strong that he thought a realm of power could never be achieved. Thus you have SSJG >>?>> Potara >> Dance Yeah, I was asking both, one question from the topic title "What is the reason's why Goku and Vegeta don't want to use Gogeta/Vegito?" and "is the God power-up that much bigger than fusion/potara increase?" Now if we follow GT, 'Goku's greatest ki he felt was SBV2', which makes the SSj4 boost not that great of a leap from SSj3 to SSj4. There is a much bigger gap between SSj3 to SSjG.



TheACE	Jun 24 2015, 03:49 AM Post #9
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Jun 24 2015, 12:42 AM TheACE Jun 23 2015, 03:30 AM Vegetto being so unbearably over the top that not only does he ignore the fact that he has the power to instantly save the universe and end a ridiculously exhausting saga, he also goes out of his way to prolong a filler fight and then directly go against logic and get himself defused. Granted he didn't understand the effect of Majin Magic on Kai magic, but seriously. What are you talking about? Vegetto prolonged the fight so that Boo would absorb him so he could save Goten, Trunks, Piccolo, and Gohan. He wasn't just messing around for the sake of messing around. Well he didn't do a very good job of it. Again, it's a plot thing, but seriously. He was depending on Super Buu to think about absorbing him? Buu? Think? Same sentence? Even the Piccolo and Gohan enhanced Super Buu was an impressive idiot. Gotta love season 8. Besides, 50% of that jackass Vegetto (Goku) was planning on using the Dragon Balls to fix everything anyway, so why bother?
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Slifer	Jun 24 2015, 03:55 AM Post #10
Posts: 3,488 Group: Member Member #10,141 Joined: September 7, 2013	TheACE Jun 24 2015, 03:49 AM ThePrinceOfSaiyajins Jun 24 2015, 12:42 AM TheACE Jun 23 2015, 03:30 AM Vegetto being so unbearably over the top that not only does he ignore the fact that he has the power to instantly save the universe and end a ridiculously exhausting saga, he also goes out of his way to prolong a filler fight and then directly go against logic and get himself defused. Granted he didn't understand the effect of Majin Magic on Kai magic, but seriously. What are you talking about? Vegetto prolonged the fight so that Boo would absorb him so he could save Goten, Trunks, Piccolo, and Gohan. He wasn't just messing around for the sake of messing around. He was depending on Super Buu to think about absorbing him? Buu? Think? Same sentence? Super Boo, when outmatched by Gohan, brewed up a plan of faking his own death, hiding for an hour so Gotenks' fusion cooldown would recharge, then absorbing he and Piccolo to gain both power and intelligence. Then he did it again once the fusion wore off. If he already did it twice, why would you think he's suddenly too dumb to try it again?



TheACE	Jun 24 2015, 04:00 AM Post #11
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Because Super Buu didn't get the whole hour concept, that's why. Anyway, what else were we discusssing? Fusion over God Modes? Or the other way around, I guess.
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Slifer	Jun 24 2015, 04:07 AM Post #12
Posts: 3,488 Group: Member Member #10,141 Joined: September 7, 2013	TheACE Jun 24 2015, 04:00 AM Because Super Buu didn't get the whole hour concept, that's why. He went rogue for an hour because he knew that's how long the kids needed before they could go again, then returned when said hour was over. Seems like he got it pretty well to me. Edited by Slifer, Jun 24 2015, 04:10 AM.



TheACE	Jun 24 2015, 03:05 PM Post #13
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Really? I kinda figured he wandered off until he realized he could (Evidently) absorb people. Somehow. Another thing I took issue with. Can you tell season 8 wasn't my favorite season :p?
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+ Solid Snake	Jun 24 2015, 05:08 PM Post #14
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Wonton Soup Jun 24 2015, 03:43 AM Solid Snake Jun 23 2015, 02:13 AM Your question is answered in BoG friend. Goku stated that SSJG is so unbelievably strong that he thought a realm of power could never be achieved. Thus you have SSJG >>?>> Potara >> Dance Yeah, I was asking both, one question from the topic title "What is the reason's why Goku and Vegeta don't want to use Gogeta/Vegito?" and "is the God power-up that much bigger than fusion/potara increase?" Now if we follow GT, 'Goku's greatest ki he felt was SBV2', which makes the SSj4 boost not that great of a leap from SSj3 to SSj4. There is a much bigger gap between SSj3 to SSjG. I know, what I and a few others pointed out answered both, if they were to fuse then they'll still lose and Vegeta with his pride to never again to merge with Goku. So they hear about this Super Saiyan God and attempt that to have a better chance against Birusu since Fusion wasn't even considered (Vegito could have been born again yet they decide against it). And Goku awes at the power he was wielding and even after losing the form, Goku is delighted to be at such a level that's not to much far from Super Saiyan God.
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