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The Pecking Order Revealed
Topic Started: Jun 20 2015, 08:04 PM (4,737 Views)
Professor Gohan
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I bet Krillin will get pretty strong. I mean, it hasn't been too big a deal in the past, when needed. He'll make Krillin strong, haha. That's one of his main dudes I bet.
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Mike XL
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Giving Krillen and the others, even piccolo, some souped up version of the kaioken makes sense to make them more relevant.
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Professor Gohan
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I don't think so. That idea is pretty outdated for them. I think the only one capable of handling Kaio-ken is Oob. Kaio-ken isn't for everyone.
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I wouldn't be too surprised if they revisited early Z and brought back Kaioken.
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Pyrus
Jun 23 2015, 07:30 PM
I wouldn't be too surprised if they revisited early Z and brought back Kaioken.
Doubt it. Only because Toriyama probably doesn't remember Kaioken. He didn't remember SSJ2. only way Kaioken gets in Super is Toei taking liberties.

I do miss the Kaioken aura and sound effect.
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TheGmGoken
Jun 23 2015, 07:39 PM
Pyrus
Jun 23 2015, 07:30 PM
I wouldn't be too surprised if they revisited early Z and brought back Kaioken.
Doubt it. Only because Toriyama probably doesn't remember Kaioken. He didn't remember SSJ2. only way Kaioken gets in Super is Toei taking liberties.

I do miss the Kaioken aura and sound effect.
That was before he went back over the manga for BOG.
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Pyrus
Jun 23 2015, 07:41 PM
TheGmGoken
Jun 23 2015, 07:39 PM
Pyrus
Jun 23 2015, 07:30 PM
I wouldn't be too surprised if they revisited early Z and brought back Kaioken.
Doubt it. Only because Toriyama probably doesn't remember Kaioken. He didn't remember SSJ2. only way Kaioken gets in Super is Toei taking liberties.

I do miss the Kaioken aura and sound effect.
That was before he went back over the manga for BOG.
Toriyama have bad memory. In Revival of F..Freeza max in his base was 1.3 MILLION. Not that Toriyama cares for Battle Power but Freeza form is over a million. He also had Goku not sense Beerus in God Form yet in BoG he can. He also said there's 3 Kai's in a lifetime. Yet the manga has 5.

Just cause Toriyama reread. Doesn't improve memory.
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Professor Gohan
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Why?? Haha. So he just forgot again? *Poof?*
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TheGmGoken
Jun 23 2015, 07:45 PM
Pyrus
Jun 23 2015, 07:41 PM
TheGmGoken
Jun 23 2015, 07:39 PM
Pyrus
Jun 23 2015, 07:30 PM
I wouldn't be too surprised if they revisited early Z and brought back Kaioken.
Doubt it. Only because Toriyama probably doesn't remember Kaioken. He didn't remember SSJ2. only way Kaioken gets in Super is Toei taking liberties.

I do miss the Kaioken aura and sound effect.
That was before he went back over the manga for BOG.
Toriyama have bad memory. In Revival of F..Freeza max in his base was 1.3 MILLION. Not that Toriyama cares for Battle Power but Freeza form is over a million. He also had Goku not sense Beerus in God Form yet in BoG he can. He also said there's 3 Kai's in a lifetime. Yet the manga has 5.

Just cause Toriyama reread. Doesn't improve memory.
I've forgotten where he said those things. You have a source, sir?
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Actually yes.
Watch Revival of F when it comes out or find a bootleg to find 1.3 Freeza and Goku not sensing Beerus
And for 3 kaioshin - http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27135&hilit=Kaioshin+plot+hole

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. First of course it doesn't seem to fit Toriyama's prior Q&A origin for the Kaioshins. Worse, the idea of there being three Kaioshins is hard to reconcile with the manga, where we're told there were five, before four were killed/absorbed by Buu, at which point they were pointedly not replaced by anyone. We even see Elder Kaioshin die in the manga, and nobody sprouts up to replace him. The 75,000 year life span is the same as Toriyama gave in the SEG for Shinjin/Core People, but now that it's applied specifically to the Kaioshin, it ends up explicitly contradicting the official timeline, which has East Kaioshin living at least 5 million years (before, we could at least say golden fruit Shinjin were an exception or something).


Toriyama even said the manga was wrong. Bibidi didn't create Boo. Boo been around forever. Babidi ain't Bibidi son. He's a doppelganger
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Did everyone forget (even the show) about Android 18? She is vastly more powerful & intelligent then Krillin, Goten and Trunks yet she seems to have been ignored.
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Jul 3 2015, 05:39 PM
She is vastly more powerful and intelligent thanGoten and Trunks
More powerful - No.

More intelligent - They're kids. There'd be something horribly wrong with her if she wasn't more intelligent.
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Doesn't seem like a pecking order (except for Goku?). Beerus sure as hell isn't going to be below Chi Chi of all people from what we've seen so far.
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Goku gets the title of 'mightiest battle hero' whilst Vegeta, Piccolo and Krillin get the patronizing title of 'super reliable warriors of Earth'. Reliable?
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superperfectnerd
Jul 3 2015, 06:18 PM
Goku gets the title of 'mightiest battle hero' whilst Vegeta, Piccolo and Krillin get the patronizing title of 'super reliable warriors of Earth'. Reliable?
Better than Gohan or 18
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