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| Spinosaurus (JP3) vs. Rexy (JW) | |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 20 2015, 04:13 AM Post #1 |
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A rivalry originating mostly from Jurassic Park 3, I figured it'd be interesting to see the responses now that Jurassic World has come out. SIZE Rexy: 43 feet long, 17 feet tall Spino: 41-59 feet long, 13 feet high (not including sail) WEIGHT Rexy: 6.6-9 tonnes (14,550-19,841 pounds) Spino: 7-20.9 tonnes (15,432-46,076 pounds) Rexy is royalty, being the original Tyrannosaur from Jurassic Park, just 22 years older, which should make her bigger and stronger in Jurassic World. She's going up the Spinosaurus from Jurassic Park 3. My take is that the Rex from JP3 was a sub-adult male, so he was smaller than a fully grown adult female like Rexy, and the Spinosaurus had its hands full with him. Rexy was able to tango with the Indominus Rex for a bit before being overwhelmed by its strength (which is understandable as it was created to be bigger and better than the Rex). With Rexy being around the same size as the Spinosaur, and being a much bigger and stronger specimen, I think she'd definitely take home the victory, especially since from what we saw of her in JW, she goes right for the neck, which should be an insta-kill move. |
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| Frost Demon Mint | Jun 20 2015, 04:28 AM Post #2 |
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Rexy didn't put up much of a fight without Blue helping, so Spinosaurus has a chance here, especially since is was pretty smart in its fight against the T-Rex. It depends on the first few seconds of the battle. The spino can't recover if Rexy throws him around first, but if he gets at her first, he can easily snap her neck like he did the other's. |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 20 2015, 04:41 AM Post #3 |
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I wouldn't say she didn't put up much of a fight. In its initial stage, Rexy was able to push the Indominus around momentarily before it turned into back-and-forth, after which Indominus gained the clear advantage (signified by the change in music tone). The fight itself featured a lot of attacking of the neck, which both were able to escape despite the Indominus' fully functional arms allowing it the same luxury as the Spino's. Even after the Indominus tossed her around, scratched her up, and bit her neck, Rexy was able to fight (admittedly after Blue's distraction saved her life) and walk off in one piece. I agree that much of it depends on the outset, but I don't think Rexy would go down as easily as the male from JP3, even if the Spino got her in a similar hold. She's quite a bit bigger (43/17 feet to the sub-adult male's 37/10) and should logically be a lot stronger than that Rex. Edited by Pyrus, Jun 20 2015, 04:41 AM.
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| Frost Demon Mint | Jun 20 2015, 07:53 AM Post #4 |
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I have no doubt Rexy is stronger than the one the spino killed, but she's also very old, and not in her best shape, most likely. The spino has probably been in enough fights that it knows what to expect from a T-Rex, we even see it fight one, but Rexy hasn't likely fought since being recaptured for Jurassic World. Not to mention, the indominus is strong, but it's a stupid fighter. All it does is bite Rexy's neck and slash her, it never thinks to try something like what the spino did, or even to finish her off when it had her on the ground. Rexy had a good few advantages in that fight and still needed support to put up a decent struggle. If Rexy has to fight something that's at least nearly as strong as her, and is smarter, she'll not likely win. |
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| + miguelnuva | Jun 20 2015, 08:57 AM Post #5 |
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If Rexy bites the Spino first then its over. |
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| TheACE | Jun 20 2015, 01:14 PM Post #6 |
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You realize you're talking about animals and not trained martial artists or warriors. Sure they're theme park monsters, but you make it sound like these creatures are using tactics. Like actual tactics. These are not super heroes and villains, they are animals! There are no super powers, there are survival and hunting instincts. The indominous is a stupid fighter? All she did was bite Rexy's Neck and slash her? Let's see, what is one of the most vital area's on any oxygen breathing vertabrate's body? If I walked up and punched you straight in the neck, how comfortable would you be? Shame minty, shame. Hell if I'm trying to kill something, and I want it to stop breathing, I'm going for the most vital area, that will instantly kill it so I can eat it! As far as the actual fight is concerned, an adult Tyrannosaurus Rex can drop approximately 13,000 pounds of bite force. That is six and a half TONS of bite force. The thing weighs about 6 or seven tons. It can bite as hard as it can STEP ON YOU. That's a bit force that can SHAKE THE EARTH BELOW IT! The Spinosaurus, an average of about 9 tons and approximately 50 feet, doesn't quite have a jaw that's as well designed for killing an Apex Predator. A Tyrannosaur murders (and scavenges) large, scary things like Triceratops, and actively takes Hadrosaurs apart with bites. It's also got remarkably strong arms for it's size. The Spinosaur is a bit different. Where it lacks in bite force (Not sure the actual bite force, but teeth are more serrated for cutting, doesn't quite have the literal bone crushing force of a Tyrannosaurus.) It's strength is in it's three clawed arms, easily capable of tearing something like an Iguanadon in twain. Ultimately I'd say that the Tyrannosarus has a much better chance of getting one CLEAN kill shot in, vs Spinosaurus getting some solid slashes and probably bleeding Rexy out. Edge, T-Rex. |
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| lazerbem | Jun 20 2015, 02:03 PM Post #7 |
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Why not apply skills to them? The Indominus at least clearly possesses human like intelligence, I think it's reasonable In any case, the Indominus that Rexy fought was not yet full grown and had no practice fighting similar creatures. Even so, she was beating the s*** out of Rexy. Bearing that in mind, given the Spinosaurus's ninja neck snapping, it should win just like it did in JP3. It's shown that it can pretty much tank bites to the neck and it should have far more practice, having actually fought off many rivals unlike Rexy who only fought one similarly sized creature, the Indominus Edited by lazerbem, Jun 20 2015, 02:04 PM.
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| + miguelnuva | Jun 20 2015, 09:19 PM Post #8 |
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Indominus was a super dinosaur, Rexy almost losing to ot doesn't mean Spino would beat her. |
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| lazerbem | Jun 20 2015, 09:51 PM Post #9 |
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An immature super dinosaur with no experience fighting anything similar in size to her. Rexy didn't almost lose, she did lose. Very quickly, in fact. It was only Blue's interference that stopped her from getting killed |
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| Tinny | Jun 21 2015, 02:04 AM Post #10 |
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. It also worked to a T. If something works why switch it up for something that might not work as well? And it was until Blue distracted it. As for the fight the Super Dinosaur didn't seem too powerful compared to others, just a lot smarter and able to do allot more, outside of combat, like camouflage, reason, and talk to raptors. It didn't have much of a chance to use complicated tactics in the fight either. Rexy nearly lost, and only survived with help, I don't think she's walking away from this one. Edited by Tinny, Jun 21 2015, 02:27 AM.
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| srb-2nv | Jun 21 2015, 06:40 AM Post #11 |
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If we are talking actual animals, Tyrannosaurus had the most powerful bite force of any land animal EVER. In reality the first bite from the T-rex in JP3 would have pretty much torn the head off the spinosaurus, but since we are talking about a movie which is NOTHING like reality i'd still say rexy would win after a tough battle. She is a lot bigger than the sub adult that the spino fought in JP3. |
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| lazerbem | Jun 21 2015, 02:04 PM Post #12 |
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What has she done that's much more impressive? She's sat in a cage her entire life getting slow and fat. She's also very old. By comparison, the Spinosaurus has actually survived in the wild and doesn't fear other T-rexes in the slightest. The Spinosaurus also slams right through enormous, concrete and metal fences, something that Rexy hasn't quite managed to match. |
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| Darker | Jun 21 2015, 08:57 PM Post #13 |
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That was a young Spino taking on a female Rex, which is much bigger than a male. The Rex from JW is the one from the first movie, but older, so Spino wins this even faster than in the third movie. |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 21 2015, 10:46 PM Post #14 |
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There's a lot to respond to but I'm without a computer until tomorrow, though I will say this is incorrect. The Rex in 3 was a sub-adult male, recorded at 37 feet long (I provided the link in the OP), so he's younger, weaker, and smaller than the fully grown Rexy, who isn't "old" either. She'd be more akin to middle age if we compare her to humans, going by Rexes living around 30 years. And where did you get that the Spino was young? I don't think any source says anything about its age. I'm not saying you're wrong, but for now that seems like conjecture. I don't know where this idea of her getting "slow and fat" comes from, unless there's some way we can tell when a dinosaur has become fatter and slower than before. She wasnt in a cage her entire life either. She was about 3 years old in JP (maybe 2, I can't remember), then it took about 10 years to get JW in place, and then she spent another 10 in her paddock, so she spent about 10 years roaming the island and that likely came with fending off other predators and taking down large herbivores; you have a point about her not having to fight other carnivores her size, though we also can't say the Spino had a ton of experience in that field like it's being assumed. |
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| lazerbem | Jun 21 2015, 11:04 PM Post #15 |
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She's been in a paddock for the majority of her life getting fed goats and not needing to hunt or exercise. She spent a good portion of it outside of her paddock as well, but there weren't any large carnivores there. The closest thing to a rival would be the Majungasaurus, but it's not even confirmed if that was in the park at the time of her release and even if it was, it's only 23 feet long and weighs 1 ton, it's hardly any sort of comparable competition. It's also interesting to note that in the Jurassic Park game, she is sent packing by a Triceratops(though she manages to tear off the Triceratops's horn). On the other hand, the Spinosaurus deliberately seeks out other T-rexes. Eric mentioned how the T-rex pee scared the smaller ones[dinosaurs] but attracted one really big one[dinosaur]. The only animal on the island that would fit that description is the Spinosaurus, so it has lots of experience fighting T-rexes(explains its neck snapping skills). So we've got a Spinosaurus who goes out of its way to seek out and kill T-rexes vs a T-rex who has never even seen a Spinosaurus and got bodied the one time she fought something similar to her size(the Indominus was immature as well) |
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