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| Animelover5487 | Jun 19 2015, 05:31 PM Post #1 |
 
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Let me tell you i'm a huge fan of the original Yugioh series and all these heated debates on what duelist wins against what duelist, has got me fired up so I decide to give me angel on things. Note: This is only for the original series. I haven't watched much of any of the sequel series so I can't say anything about GX, 5DS or Zexal. Now lets get this thing started. Oh, and criticism is very much accepted. I would love to hear some different thoughts and showing of what I did wrong. Tier 1 Yami Yugi Seto Kaiba Dartz Tier 2 Joey Wheeler Rafael Tier 3 Valon Zigfried von Schroeder [that pink haired fellow from after DOMA who narrowly defeated Joey, and lost to Kaiba with some difficuly] Tier 4 Alister Yami Marik Tier 5 Yami Bakura Mai Valentine Tier 6 Normal Marik Ishtar Odion Ishtar Ishizu Ishtar Tier 7 Maximillion Pegasus Weevil Underwood Rex Raptor Tier 8 Bandit Keith Mako Tsunami |
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| lazerbem | Jun 20 2015, 03:15 AM Post #31 |
 
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I just have Weevil higher than Rex at all times in general, it just seems like that kind of thing. As for Mai, weird stuff with the Japanese dub about her. Weevil doesn't mention her at all, but Rex says that Joey's just like Mai said, always pissing people off with how proper he is. Rex mentions how everyone, including Haga and Mai, try Joey's advice, but it just doesn't work, and how a great duelist like Joey would never understand. Joey says not to compare himself to Mai So going off of that conversation, Rex groups himself, Weevil, and Mai in the same band and has apparently talked to Mai about Joey's "properness". Whether he means emotionally or not is up for debate, but the fact that he brings up Joey's dueling ability seems to indicate to me that Rex views himself, Mai, and Weevil as far lesser to Joey(pre-Orichalcos at least). On the other hand, Joey does say to not compare himself to Mai, but that could mean either emotionally or in terms of dueling prowess |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 20 2015, 03:30 AM Post #32 |
 
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Huh. Well, that leaves them all in the same group, I guess. Another thing I questioned was whether the two actually improved after the Orichalcos shenanigans were over with. They were no longer fueled by the Orichalcos, and I don't know whether they were allowed to keep whatever cards they got from Dartz (doesn't seem as if they would since they were taken by the Orichalcos). It's natural to assume the main characters got better, but Weevil and Rex essentially got a Majin boost and had it taken away. And I find it odd that Kaiba got matched with Alister, who didn't end up being all that good (though his Fire deck was solid and had Kaiba beat until Critias showed up), but Joey got matched with Valon, who showed a surprising amount of skill. You would think the stronger person would be matched with Kaiba for plot purpose. Maybe Alister is better than Valon, but Kaiba is just that much better than both that it appears Valon was the superior one. Edited by Pyrus, Jun 20 2015, 03:32 AM.
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| lazerbem | Jun 20 2015, 02:06 PM Post #33 |
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I would think them to be improved, their first turn combo against Ziegfried was pretty beast. If not keeping the Orichalcos boost, at the very least they improved their skills |
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| TheACE | Jun 20 2015, 04:59 PM Post #34 |
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I'd say that Rex and Weevil should be the poster boys for the Worf Effect. Half way between Wolverine and Beevis & Butthead. Tough enough to be measuring sticks for new badasses, but ultimately the series punchline. Anyway, after reading all of this, here's where I think everyone stands by series end. YCS and Movie included (Because if we're including that crappy Waking the Dragons Arc, then I'll put in for anything.) Game King Tier - Yugi Moto *One amazing duelists that killed all three Egyptian Gods in one turn. Nuff Said. Tier 0 - Pharoah "Yami" Atem ~ Seto Kaiba > Master Dartz > Anubis *Honestly all of them are amazing players. Yami has the best over all series win/loss record, with Kaiba coming in at a close second. Kaiba's also managed to defeat all three Egyptian Gods before (with Anubis' help) but I feel like even using Shining on it's own with it's broken a*** Movie Effect was just as devastating. Dartz taking Yami and Kaiba together was great, but it just didn't feel the same without their ultimate cards being in the mix (No Gods, no shining, no evolutions, he was fighting like half their decks) Tier 1 - Sigfried Von Shroder ~ Katsuya Jounochi "Joey" Wheeler >/= Yami Marik/Marik "Namu" Ishtar ~ Yami Bakura/Ryo Bakura ~ Leon Von Shroeder > Raphael All of these guys are series ending villians, and have fought at God Card player levels. Raphael has even beaten an Orichalcos Yami (though he lost to the regular one, so I'm almost willing to believe that the Seal actually interfered with Yami's Shadow Magic and made him weaker, so there's that). Joey's the only one without magic that doesn't cheat that's been able to keep up with God cards and freaks like Sigfried. That and he was actually one to one with Von Shroder and it all came down to one card, where as the former had one shotted both Rex and Weevil in one swift turn. So that's always a thing. Tier 2 - Valon > Alister >/= Orichalcos Mai Valentine >/= "Maxamillian" Pegasus J. Crawford ~ Mai Valentine > Rebecca Hawkins ~ Noah Kaiba Now out of the remaining Riders, Valon was the only one who would make a dent in his opponent. Mai did well too, defeating the creator of all card games, and while Alister was threatening, he never made Kaiba sweat the way Valon had one over on Joey. That and Valon took Duke and Rebecca? Hardcore! Noah was a beast too and Rebecca played well enough to be recognized in Kaiba's top four of the KCGP, so that's gotta mean something. Tier 3 - "Insector" Weevil Underwood ~ "Dinosaur" Rex Raptor > Gozaburo Kaiba > Odion Ishtar > Ishizu Ishtar > Vivian Wong > Dr. Sugoroku "Solomon" Moto > Prof. Arthur Hawkins >/= Duke Devlin Now this is tough. These guys are the best of the "Normal people." Keith is a cheating sonuva, but he's still been American National champion. That and he had Yugi on the ropes in Battle City. Enough to have me put him ahead of Rex and Weevil. It's just... they've never gotten anywhere ever. Granted they've been regional and national champs off screen, but anytime I see them on the show it's just them being the crap kicked out of them. And they have such gimmicky decks. Honestly it's like they're the mid season villians that you use as filler until the season finale. Just a way to kill an episode or two, but no real credible threat. Tier 4 - "Bandit" Keith Howard ~ Kogoro "Leichter" Daimon > Soichiro "Nezbitt" Ota > Seeker More mid level guys. Seeker also a bold faced cheater, but he's creative on his Exodia deck building (Which was a thing at the time) so he gets a pass. Tier 5 - Konosuke "Gansley" Os***a >> Mako Tsunami > Arkana ~ Esp Roba > Para ~ Dox = Jean Claude Van Magnum More mid levels. All of these guys can give Yami a work out, but have never really pushed him to a limit. Nezbitt and leichter had the distinciton of taking multiple duelists or pushing champions to the brink, so they got the fourth tier spot. That and I'm pretty sure in GX and in Duelist, Para and Dox's decks don't work outside of a tag duel. Tier 6 - Gurimo > Anzu "Tea" Gardener ~ Strings the Silent Puppet aka Steve the Mime * All of these guys have beaten people off screen obviously, but Gurimo and Strings managed to lose with God Cards. Broken, invincible-ass Anime God Cards. To Tea's credit she's the only character who's actually never lost a duel the whole series. She's beaten Mai, Crump and Joey. Granted all at different levels and points in the series, but a flawless record is still good enough to nail a spot for her. Tier 7 - Panik > Bonz > Adrian Randolph Crump III > Chikuzen Oka Johnson * Do I even need to? Tier 8 - Honda "Tristian" Taylor > Shizuka J "Serenity" Wheeler ~ Mokuba Kaiba >>> Johnny Steps > Pretty much everyone else. * Bottom of the barrel, most of the characters here don't even play duel monsters. I only put Mokuba above Johnny because he was able to play Yami fairly well in Duel Chess. We should do a season 0 and Capsule monsters list one of these days before we do GX. Edited by TheACE, Jun 23 2015, 12:48 AM.
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| lazerbem | Jun 20 2015, 05:49 PM Post #35 |
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I think Bandit Keith is too high on that list and that Post Orichalcos Weevil and Rex should be higher up. The thing is that Rex compares himself and Weevil to Mai several times when he's ranting to Joey, talking about how duelists like Joey could never understand what he, Mai, and Weevil went through. He's seen her duel as well and presumably talked to her back at the DOMA base, given him saying "It's just like Mai Kujaku said". Of course, Joey does go and say to never compare himself to Mai right after, so make of what what you will. Rex was really quite close to beating Joey, he lost because he freaked out when he saw Red Eyes and wanted to make Red Eyes suffer. Weevil's loss was partially due to extremely bad luck and partially because he wanted to torment the Phraoah/make him suffer bit by bit(the subs were somewhat conflicting on that). Other than that though, I can't disagree with anything really Edited by lazerbem, Jun 20 2015, 06:04 PM.
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| Animelover5487 | Jun 20 2015, 05:51 PM Post #36 |
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Having Odion anywhere near Bandit Keith is just disrespectful imo. Keith was being mind-controlled and given rare cards, and even then Marik was having him doing his same cheating routine. I doubt Odion was that much off from Normal Marik seeing as Marik didn't know about most of Ra's special abilities. Odion had to change his dueling style to summon Ra and still outplayed Joey. If Keith dueled Joey at that time, he would have lost with about the same amount of diff as Mako. |
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| + Majin Vegeta | Jun 22 2015, 05:18 PM Post #37 |
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I don't know if I would place Rafael at the same leaque as Joey, the guy was much better than Yami Yugi was, he defeated him twice (the second time he forfeited on purpose). Also Yami Marik should be above Alister, that guy never showed anything impressive. Aside from this it's a great tier list  .
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| Animelover5487 | Jun 22 2015, 07:37 PM Post #38 |
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Yami's mind was corrupted by the Orichalcos and couldn't play Timaeus. Joey is always lumped together with Yami Yugi and Kaiba in every season after Battle City. Such as him being one of the three legendary duelists, being in the top 3 right under them on Pegasus's list in GX, Rex referring to Yugi and Joey when talking about how they don't know how duelists like him, Mai, and Weevil feel. So yeah I doubt Joey is that much under Yugi and Kaiba. By the end of the series Yugi and Kaiba should definatly be equal to Dartz, if not surpassed which would make Joey and Rafael more-or-less equal. His duel with Kaiba might have been unimpressive but he was still lumped together with Rafael and Valon as Dartz's top henchmen who are the main rivals to our legendary duelists. Battle City Kaiba was already above Yami Marik so you can't imagine what WTD Kaiba would do to him. Thanks 
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| + Pyrus | Jun 22 2015, 10:58 PM Post #39 |
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Skill-wise, that's a fact. But in a duel? Kaiba might've lost. The Winged Dragon of Ra was just too broken at the time, though I do have my reserves about Kaiba's also-OP cards and logical strategies allowing him to win. As for Alister, yeah, his second duel with Kaiba made him look like a chump. He didn't do anything impressive from what I remember, never made Kaiba sweat. His first duel was a lot better showing, where he had Kaiba backed into a corner to the point where it took a deus ex machina for Kaiba to win. Edited by Pyrus, Jun 23 2015, 12:45 AM.
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| TheACE | Jun 23 2015, 12:42 AM Post #40 |
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Wait wasn't Alister the one who took on Kaiba? I thought Valon was Joey's evil Australian Motorcycle Riding doppelganger. Also, Bandit Kieth. I guess he's more of a fourth tier. He's got the championships, but he's never won a duel, even while cheating. Just didn't know what to do with him. That and after Tier Two the criteria gets real tough to decide. |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 23 2015, 12:44 AM Post #41 |
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My mistake. I mixed up the names. Alister fought Kaiba. |
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| TheACE | Jun 23 2015, 12:53 AM Post #42 |
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Lol in your defense, it was back in Waking the Dragons. So, you are instantly forgiven. |
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| Animelover5487 | Jun 23 2015, 01:29 AM Post #43 |
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Probably. I just never saw Yami Marik as that good outside of Ra, in most of his duels he would just take advantage of his opponent's lack of knowledge on the card and take back control of it. I think the reason Alister did better the first time was because Kaiba thought he was dueling Pegasus at first, and knowing Kaiba he was treating the match like a joke, possibly toying with him. IIRC in the second match Mokuba was in danger and knew full well Alister's skill level so he was completely serious in that match. |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 23 2015, 01:53 AM Post #44 |
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True, Kaiba did think he was playing Pegasus at first so he likely wasn't giving 100%, but Alister seemed like a competent threat at that point. He knew Seto would try Crush Card and easily countered it, and stopped him from doing anything of worth until Critias came out. His Fire deck was beastly.
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