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Yugioh Tier List
Tweet Topic Started: Jun 19 2015, 05:31 PM (3,680 Views)
Animelover5487	Jun 19 2015, 05:31 PM Post #1
Posts: 887 Group: Member Member #8,531 Joined: November 7, 2012	Let me tell you i'm a huge fan of the original Yugioh series and all these heated debates on what duelist wins against what duelist, has got me fired up so I decide to give me angel on things. Note: This is only for the original series. I haven't watched much of any of the sequel series so I can't say anything about GX, 5DS or Zexal. Now lets get this thing started. Oh, and criticism is very much accepted. I would love to hear some different thoughts and showing of what I did wrong. Tier 1 Yami Yugi Seto Kaiba Dartz Tier 2 Joey Wheeler Rafael Tier 3 Valon Zigfried von Schroeder [that pink haired fellow from after DOMA who narrowly defeated Joey, and lost to Kaiba with some difficuly] Tier 4 Alister Yami Marik Tier 5 Yami Bakura Mai Valentine Tier 6 Normal Marik Ishtar Odion Ishtar Ishizu Ishtar Tier 7 Maximillion Pegasus Weevil Underwood Rex Raptor Tier 8 Bandit Keith Mako Tsunami

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+ Pyrus	Jun 20 2015, 12:59 AM Post #16
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	A fluke win wouldn't make Marik look weaker or Joey look stronger.
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TheACE	Jun 20 2015, 01:01 AM Post #17
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	Pyrus Jun 20 2015, 12:59 AM A fluke win wouldn't make Marik look weaker or Joey look stronger. Uhm, Banished soul to Shadow Realm/Hell? Yeah id say that would be a glaring loss. Not that Marik didn't rock Yami like a Hurricane the next match, but credit to Katsuya where credit is due.
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+ Clearin	Jun 20 2015, 01:09 AM Post #18
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	I've read that at some point in GX, Pegasus says the top 5 duelists are Yugi, Kaiba, Joey and 2 GX-only characters.



+ Pyrus	Jun 20 2015, 01:09 AM Post #19
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	TheACE Jun 20 2015, 01:01 AM Pyrus Jun 20 2015, 12:59 AM A fluke win wouldn't make Marik look weaker or Joey look stronger. Uhm, Banished soul to Shadow Realm/Hell? Yeah id say that would be a glaring loss. Not that Marik didn't rock Yami like a Hurricane the next match, but credit to Katsuya where credit is due. Why should I give him credit when he was tooled the whole match and only would have won because of Marik's justified mistake with the final move? That'd be like giving Mokuba credit for beating Yugi if he'd only won because Yugi left himself open to a direct attack thinking Mokuba couldn't summon any monsters because he sucks. It's clear that Marik is on a different level from Joey, and is even above Yugi for the time being. It shouldn't be used as evidence of anything except Joey's willpower. Joey is good, don't get me wrong, but he's not on that level until the next arc. People continue to use their duel as evidence that Joey is supremely underrated/Marik is supremely overrated, but the entire point of Marik's duels was that he loved toying with his opponents to prolong the torture until he brought out Ra to end them. Marik is no god, excuse the pun, but at the time he was incredibly formidable. Clearin Jun 20 2015, 01:09 AM I've read that at some point in GX, Pegasus says the top 5 duelists are Yugi, Kaiba, Joey and 2 GX-only characters. I don't remember him mentioning the GX duelists but he does say Yugi, Kaiba, and Joey are the top 3 in the world. That's also GX, though. Edited by Pyrus, Jun 20 2015, 01:12 AM.
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TheACE	Jun 20 2015, 01:14 AM Post #20
The Last GT Fighter Posts: 4,146 Group: Member Member #9,279 Joined: March 31, 2013 Favourite Anime DB/Z/GT, Digimon, YYH, Yugioh!, GetBackers What Browser do you use? Chrome, Safari, IE Favourite Manga Rave Master, FLCL, .hack//legendofthetwilight, Naruto II	They're the same guys. I think it was Yugo, then Kaiba, then Joey, the Edo/Aster and finally Jesse. But yes, if you're overconfident and lose because you fail to take an opponent seriously, you deserve your humiliation and a* whipping. Its like if you and I got in a fight, you decided, eh Ace is skinny and spends his days on the internet, I'll give him a free shot, and I end up breaking your nose and choking you out, then you have a broken nose and can't breathe for being an a*** instead of doing the smart thing and just knocking me right the hell down! That's still on Marik.
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Animelover5487	Jun 20 2015, 01:16 AM Post #21
Posts: 887 Group: Member Member #8,531 Joined: November 7, 2012	lazerbem Jun 19 2015, 11:02 PM Why is Yami Bakura so low? And I would think that Tournament Arc Weevil and Rex should at least surpass Pegasus, their first turn combo vs Ziegfried was pretty ridiculous They had a good drawing power that turn but Pegasus is the creator after all I think he would find away to match that. Pyrus Jun 19 2015, 11:37 PM As much as I hate to admit it, Yami Bakura was able to duel Kaiba to a draw at the beginning of the Millennium World arc. He shouldn't be lower than Wheeler, unless you're going to split this up into separate incarnations, which I think would actually be more beneficial. KEY DK = Duelist Kingdom BC = Battle City WTD = Waking the Dragons/Orichalcos GC = Grand Championship MW = Millennium World/Ceremonial Duel Tier 1 Yugi (MW) Atem (MW) Kaiba (MW) Yami Bakura (MW) Tier 2 Yami Yugi (GC) Kaiba (GC) Dartz Rafael Atem (WTD) Joey (GC) Tier 3 Joey (WTD) Valon Ziegfried Von Shroeder Weevil Underwood (GC) Rex Raptor (GC) Alister Mai (WTD) Weevil Underwood (WTD) Rex Raptor (WTD) Tier 4 Yami Marik Yami Yugi (BC) Kaiba (BC) Pegasus (WTD) Tier 5 Marik Odion Joey (BC) Yami Bakura (BC) Mai (BC) Ishizu Tier 6 Rebecca (GC) Strings Lumis & Umbra Arkana Seeker Tier 7 Mako Tsunami (BC) Weevil Underwood (BC) Rex Raptor (BC) Bandit Keith (BC) Tier 8 Yami Yugi (DK) Kaiba (DK) Pegasus (DK) Rebecca (DK) Tier 9 Mai (DK) Mako Tsunami (DK) Weevil Underwood (DK) Rex Raptor (DK) Tier 10 Bonz I probably missed a few people. Duelist Kingdom is so low because it was such a "beginner" type arc. I can't place the Big 5. Wasn't Yami Bakura and Kaiba's duel interrupted?



+ Pyrus	Jun 20 2015, 01:26 AM Post #22
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	TheACE Jun 20 2015, 01:14 AM They're the same guys. I think it was Yugo, then Kaiba, then Joey, the Edo/Aster and finally Jesse. But yes, if you're overconfident and lose because you fail to take an opponent seriously, you deserve your humiliation and a* whipping. Its like if you and I got in a fight, you decided, eh Ace is skinny and spends his days on the internet, I'll give him a free shot, and I end up breaking your nose and choking you out, then you have a broken nose and can't breathe for being an a* instead of doing the smart thing and just knocking me right the hell down! That's still on Marik. I still don't see how that makes Joey any better of a duelist or Marik any worse, really. We see that Joey can't keep up and that Marik is far too much to handle even for Yugi. Animelover5487 Jun 20 2015, 01:16 AM Pyrus Jun 19 2015, 11:37 PM As much as I hate to admit it, Yami Bakura was able to duel Kaiba to a draw at the beginning of the Millennium World arc. He shouldn't be lower than Wheeler, unless you're going to split this up into separate incarnations, which I think would actually be more beneficial. KEY DK = Duelist Kingdom BC = Battle City WTD = Waking the Dragons/Orichalcos GC = Grand Championship MW = Millennium World/Ceremonial Duel Tier 1 Yugi (MW) Atem (MW) Kaiba (MW) Yami Bakura (MW) Tier 2 Yami Yugi (GC) Kaiba (GC) Dartz Rafael Atem (WTD) Joey (GC) Tier 3 Joey (WTD) Valon Ziegfried Von Shroeder Weevil Underwood (GC) Rex Raptor (GC) Alister Mai (WTD) Weevil Underwood (WTD) Rex Raptor (WTD) Tier 4 Yami Marik Yami Yugi (BC) Kaiba (BC) Pegasus (WTD) Tier 5 Marik Odion Joey (BC) Yami Bakura (BC) Mai (BC) Ishizu Tier 6 Rebecca (GC) Strings Lumis & Umbra Arkana Seeker Tier 7 Mako Tsunami (BC) Weevil Underwood (BC) Rex Raptor (BC) Bandit Keith (BC) Tier 8 Yami Yugi (DK) Kaiba (DK) Pegasus (DK) Rebecca (DK) Tier 9 Mai (DK) Mako Tsunami (DK) Weevil Underwood (DK) Rex Raptor (DK) Tier 10 Bonz I probably missed a few people. Duelist Kingdom is so low because it was such a "beginner" type arc. I can't place the Big 5. Wasn't Yami Bakura and Kaiba's duel interrupted? It wasn't really interrupted. Bakura left to go do whatever because the sun was coming up. I don't remember the exact reason. But anyway, he had Kaiba on the ropes with his tablet bulls*, and I believe even Kaiba acknowledged it wasn't a clear win for either participant, though I'd have to rewatch it to be sure.
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lazerbem	Jun 20 2015, 01:53 AM Post #23
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Pegasus did say the top duelists were Yugi, Kaiba, Joey, and some other idiots, but that was towards the middle of GX. Things could have changed towards the end. Jaden should at least be near them. Also, Marik's near loss to Joey speaks more so to his character rather than his dueling ability. If he duels at his best, he's quite good. Problem is that Marik's head was so far up his own a***, he didn't battle at full blast typically
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+ Pyrus	Jun 20 2015, 01:56 AM Post #24
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	lazerbem Jun 20 2015, 01:53 AM Pegasus did say the top duelists were Yugi, Kaiba, Joey, and some other idiots, but that was towards the middle of GX. Things could have changed towards the end. Jaden should at least be near them. Also, Marik's near loss to Joey speaks more so to his character rather than his dueling ability. If he duels at his best, he's quite good. Problem is that Marik's head was so far up his own a***, he didn't battle at full blast typically That's precisely what I was trying to say. It was CIS that he nearly lost to Joey, not a mark against his dueling ability. If he had tried from the start, Joey wouldn't have lasted nearly as long.
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lazerbem	Jun 20 2015, 02:05 AM Post #25
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	It's only CIS if it's inconsistent with their character. Marik is consistently an arrogant t*** however and it wasn't like Joey's duel amounted to much other than showing that Marik's arrogance nearly killed him. Certain characters kind of need their own classification like that. Like Yami Marik(Toying) and Atem(Sad After Losing His ~~Lover~~ Partner)
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+ Pyrus	Jun 20 2015, 02:11 AM Post #26
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	I figured it was because Marik didn't leave himself open like that normally, but you make a fair point.
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lazerbem	Jun 20 2015, 02:15 AM Post #27
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	He toyed with practically everyone. He showed some intelligence vs Bakura with psyching him out into not using the Fiend Sanctuary strategy, but even so, his strategy was "TROLL, DUMP RA, REVIVE, HAX, I WIN".
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+ Pyrus	Jun 20 2015, 02:37 AM Post #28
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Well, either way, you think he should be below the Orichalcos Rex and Weevil?
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lazerbem	Jun 20 2015, 02:40 AM Post #29
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	I think same tier or slightly below is fine. He was really powerful, but his strategy required several turns to work, whereas Weevil and Rex got to the point nearly straight away. Granted, Marik toyed a lot, but even if he didn't, his strategy pretty much necessitates several turns. Also, it's interesting to note that Orichalcos Weevil mentions in the Japanese dub how he'll enjoy making the Pharoah suffer little by little, so I suppose he could be toying, which would probably cement him as being a tad higher than Marik Edited by lazerbem, Jun 20 2015, 02:53 AM.
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+ Pyrus	Jun 20 2015, 03:06 AM Post #30
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	That's a fun tidbit. I think Weevil should be higher than Rex at that point as well. Mai seems like an outlier due to her broken combos and overall relevancy, but not having the best opponents to judge her from.
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