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New Visual Shows Two New Characters
Topic Started: Jun 15 2015, 03:19 AM (9,141 Views)
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To be fair, maybe that's Beerus' brother or something. I mean you could say 'boooo Raditz is just a taller, more muscular Goku with different hair! Boooo Gohan is just Goku with different hair! Boooo Dende is just a smaller Piccolo! Booooo!" Saiyans, Namekians, humans, Kais and even Freeza were allowed to have relatives and similar looking members of their race, why not Beerus and Whis?
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You know I was behind SSJG, sure it's a bit of a recolor but it fit and it's nice seeing base Goku. SSJGSSJ felt silly and needless. Now I just have no idea what is up with this, Heck it took me a good while to realize there were new characters here.

I suppose it's better than a blue Beerus.
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Jun 15 2015, 09:52 PM
To be fair, maybe that's Beerus' brother or something. I mean you could say 'boooo Raditz is just a taller, more muscular Goku with different hair! Boooo Gohan is just Goku with different hair! Boooo Dende is just a smaller Piccolo! Booooo!" Saiyans, Namekians, humans, Kais and even Freeza were allowed to have relatives and similar looking members of their race, why not Beerus and Whis?
Fair enough, Raditz is quite similar to SSJ3 Goku in a way.

That said it definitely feels underwhelming for me. And even then they're still extremely similar designs, rich sadly seems to be a new trend with SSJG and SSSJGSSJ.
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Derped, ignore double post
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It'd be cool if it was an alternate universe with opposite versions of the characters. We could finally get an evil Goku. But of course a simple promotional image with two new characters in no context isn't much to go on.
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superperfectnerd
Jun 15 2015, 09:52 PM
To be fair, maybe that's Beerus' brother or something. I mean you could say 'boooo Raditz is just a taller, more muscular Goku with different hair! Boooo Gohan is just Goku with different hair! Boooo Dende is just a smaller Piccolo! Booooo!" Saiyans, Namekians, humans, Kais and even Freeza were allowed to have relatives and similar looking members of their race, why not Beerus and Whis?
Those look related without looking like lazy designs. Goten's design falls under the lazy one though.
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Jun 15 2015, 10:18 PM
superperfectnerd
Jun 15 2015, 09:52 PM
To be fair, maybe that's Beerus' brother or something. I mean you could say 'boooo Raditz is just a taller, more muscular Goku with different hair! Boooo Gohan is just Goku with different hair! Boooo Dende is just a smaller Piccolo! Booooo!" Saiyans, Namekians, humans, Kais and even Freeza were allowed to have relatives and similar looking members of their race, why not Beerus and Whis?
Those look related without looking like lazy designs. Goten's design falls under the lazy one though.
You honestly think Gohan looks more varied compared to Goku than that fat cat does to Beerus? Goku and Gohan have exactly the same face, so does Goten and so does Bardock. All of the Namekians look the same except for varying size and obesity. Raditz for some reason looks a lot like Vegeta in the face. If it's revealed that there are more of Beerus' race then there's not much more you can do design wise than make them bigger, smaller, fatter or thinner. We don't know if these are the villains or side characters. Even if they are villains, they're likely just the first in a line of different antagonists.
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superperfectnerd
Jun 15 2015, 10:26 PM
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Jun 15 2015, 10:18 PM
superperfectnerd
Jun 15 2015, 09:52 PM
To be fair, maybe that's Beerus' brother or something. I mean you could say 'boooo Raditz is just a taller, more muscular Goku with different hair! Boooo Gohan is just Goku with different hair! Boooo Dende is just a smaller Piccolo! Booooo!" Saiyans, Namekians, humans, Kais and even Freeza were allowed to have relatives and similar looking members of their race, why not Beerus and Whis?
Those look related without looking like lazy designs. Goten's design falls under the lazy one though.
You honestly think Gohan looks more varied compared to Goku than that fat cat does to Beerus? Goku and Gohan have exactly the same face, so does Goten and so does Bardock. All of the Namekians look the same except for varying size and obesity. Raditz for some reason looks a lot like Vegeta in the face. If it's revealed that there are more of Beerus' race then there's not much more you can do design wise than make them bigger, smaller, fatter or thinner. We don't know if these are the villains or side characters. Even if they are villains, they're likely just the first in a line of different antagonists.
Either way, it's just lazy. I know laziness is prominent throughout the entire series and that I shouldn't really be surprised, but Toriyama should be putting some effort into creating new, unique characters like he did with Beerus and Whis in BoG. All we've seen of Super is a fat Beerus and a female Whis, and if they do end up being the counterpart of the Z-fighters' Universe, then the wasted potential is staggering.
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I'm just gonna say, I don't like how similar these new movies and posters are looking to previous, SSJGSSJ is pretty much blue SSJ, SSJG is red Goku, and now we have Beelus, the fatter Beerus, it's beginning to feel like a trend than just a little thing. Hopefully though the designs will get to looking better later as we continue on.
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I actually would really like to see alternate versions of the heroes. That could be used to explain why we have an alternative Trunks. DC and Marvel love all that alternate reality stuff and so do the fans, so why not DragonBall. Seeing an evil saiyan gang made up of Vegeta, Kakarotto, Nappa and Raditz interacting with the heroes would be awesome.
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Jun 15 2015, 07:26 PM
After seeing this series, people will actually prefer Gt over Super and will actually feel sorry of how they all condemned it back in the old days. After all this is over, DBGT will actually be considered a more canon continuation to DBZ.
Id have to agree with you there. GT had great concepts but the story line wasnt dragged out enough


Sssj4 was a great concept, how they had to turn to great ape and using there tails again, ssj4 more of like a throwback to the saiyans more primitive ape genes becoming more dominate and giving them great power (comapred to ss GOD all they did was hold hands LOL and they became red auroria and now blue, thats so simple and lame !

the shadow dragon concept was great also, over using the dragon balls, and evil version of the eternal dragon , i f*** wit dat


somethings i didnt like thouhg, the black star dragon balls in general , like LOL we never knew they existed the whole time, they just sat in kami's lookout LOL! pan was super annoying
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superperfectnerd
Jun 15 2015, 10:26 PM
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Jun 15 2015, 10:18 PM
superperfectnerd
Jun 15 2015, 09:52 PM
To be fair, maybe that's Beerus' brother or something. I mean you could say 'boooo Raditz is just a taller, more muscular Goku with different hair! Boooo Gohan is just Goku with different hair! Boooo Dende is just a smaller Piccolo! Booooo!" Saiyans, Namekians, humans, Kais and even Freeza were allowed to have relatives and similar looking members of their race, why not Beerus and Whis?
Those look related without looking like lazy designs. Goten's design falls under the lazy one though.
You honestly think Gohan looks more varied compared to Goku than that fat cat does to Beerus? Goku and Gohan have exactly the same face, so does Goten and so does Bardock. All of the Namekians look the same except for varying size and obesity. Raditz for some reason looks a lot like Vegeta in the face. If it's revealed that there are more of Beerus' race then there's not much more you can do design wise than make them bigger, smaller, fatter or thinner. We don't know if these are the villains or side characters. Even if they are villains, they're likely just the first in a line of different antagonists.
yeah but there family though,

i was really hoping the gods of the other universe would be like completely different, and like each having his/her own traits and abilities or being of another race and having a different back story, instead looks like we are gonna have to follow a family of cats that will be fighting each other and arguing over pudding


edit: im done juding or worrying about this new series for now, ill just wait til it comes out and watch it and enjoy it, then judge then entertain my self by talking about what i hated or liked about it
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Consequences for the Dragonballs and death are sorely needed in my opinion. I mean innitially we had one set of Dragonballs which could only revive an individual once if they died of unnatural courses. Now we have two sets of Dragonballs, one of which can now bring back any number of people any number of times. It just sucks the tension right out of the situation. Even if the heroes fail entirely, the Namkians can be just go, "oh dear, better restore the Earth then and bring back Goku."
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superperfectnerd
Jun 15 2015, 11:15 PM
Consequences for the Dragonballs and death are sorely needed in my opinion. I mean innitially we had one set of Dragonballs which could only revive an individual once if they died of unnatural courses. Now we have two sets of Dragonballs, one of which can now bring back any number of people any number of times. It just sucks the tension right out of the situation. Even if the heroes fail entirely, the Namkians can be just go, "oh dear, better restore the Earth then and bring back Goku."
You mean like your planet blowing up if you decide to be selfish and solve your problems wth one magic wis, OH WAIT!
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Jun 15 2015, 11:52 PM
superperfectnerd
Jun 15 2015, 11:15 PM
Consequences for the Dragonballs and death are sorely needed in my opinion. I mean innitially we had one set of Dragonballs which could only revive an individual once if they died of unnatural courses. Now we have two sets of Dragonballs, one of which can now bring back any number of people any number of times. It just sucks the tension right out of the situation. Even if the heroes fail entirely, the Namkians can be just go, "oh dear, better restore the Earth then and bring back Goku."
You mean like your planet blowing up if you decide to be selfish and solve your problems wth one magic wis, OH WAIT!
The great GT, actually gave a reason to not use Dragon balls.
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Maybe Fat Beerus.. doesn't like to eat? But I have a better theory :p.

Dbgt had a very old Monkey Gang(Mai Sho and Emperor)
BoG had them as kids

Maybe the DBs turnt Beerus to fatness and Whis to a girl?
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