should we start a petiton to have Faulconer Productions soundtrack the funi dub?

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should we start a petiton to have Faulconer Productions soundtrack the funi dub?
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+ Emmeth	Jun 10 2015, 07:07 AM Post #31
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Kaboom Jun 10 2015, 06:45 AM I guess all I can still say is thank God that FUNi is staffed by people who actually care about DB now, and not you guys. Stop this. Now. Your elitist way of thinking is really disgusting, because you make it sound like fact when all it is is your opinion. Understand that, please.
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FutureProtagonist	Jun 10 2015, 07:10 AM Post #32
Quwrof Wrlccywrlir Posts: 2,545 Group: Member Member #11,890 Joined: December 5, 2014 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Soul Eater	It's not detestable and shameful to put one's own spin or interpretation on a work of art. Sometimes that can lead to creative and exciting moments that would never have happened if they had decided said work of art is a sacred cow or something. If you don't like adaptations and localizations changing things, the you should also be calling for the extirpation of all DBZ anime for censoring and altering Toriyama-sama's vision. Not to mention the unfaithful manga adaptation of Revival of F; they left out Piccolo's fight with Shisami. How dare they disrespect the source material like that! Hunt down the Viz translation team! How dare they change Pui-Pui to Pocus, how dare they add extra smoke to cover Bulma's nipples; that's disrespectful!
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+ Kaboom	Jun 10 2015, 07:12 AM Post #33
Posts: 1,927 Group: Elite Member Member #9,984 Joined: August 24, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Punch Man	Super-Namek Jun 10 2015, 06:47 AM USA is not japan we dont like the japanese soundtrack its awkward and weird as f*** as an american (not hating its just a culture difference) IF FUni didnt dubb DBZ and Use Bruce falconers tracks it would of never have been as successful in the united states thats my opinion but i would honestly say its close to being a "fact" sounds to be u just want to act "cool and different" by wanting japanse soundtrack so go ahead, go watch a dbz in subs or orginal japanse and let us americans enjoy our Funi Dub's with a good soundtrack oh and btw if funi has enough funds to make KAI im sure they can spend some money to get a bruce falconer soundtrack "DBZ wouldn't have been successful here without those changes because America is a special cultural snowflake" is 100% unfounded, presumptuous horse sh*t. I'm not the out of the ordinary one here. Not if you look beyond this little USA fandom bubble you dwell in. It's literally only in America where DBZ's tone and presentation were changed so much in a thoughtless attempt to be "cool and different." No other region's dub used altered music, and yet DBZ excels everywhere it goes. This "cultural difference" excuse doesn't hold up. You are everything wrong with typical American "DBZ" fans. Selfish, closed-minded, xenophobic, thinking they're special, and wanting nothing but their own tastes accommodated. I'm an American too, and it's people like you who make me ashamed of titling myself as a Dragon Ball fan. I'll take the "elitist" title, translate it as "actually giving a damn about how the series is treated" and be proud of it.



~~StrawHatCrew~~	Jun 10 2015, 07:15 AM Post #34
Posts: 4,004 Group: Suspended Member #9,708 Joined: July 4, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragon Ball (Z), Captain Tsubasa, Naruto (Original) Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Dr. Slump, One-Piece	Kaboom Jun 10 2015, 07:12 AM I'll take the "elitist" title, translate it as "actually giving a damn about how the series is treated" and be proud of it. So you believe Base Goku > Frieza?



+ Emmeth	Jun 10 2015, 07:15 AM Post #35
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Kaboom Jun 10 2015, 07:12 AM I'll take the "elitist" title, translate it as "actually giving a damn about how the series is treated" and be proud of it. Hey, I got a question for you. See that I choose to edit out all of Star Wars' music and replace it with the music from Lord of the Rings. What does that make me?
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Slifer	Jun 10 2015, 07:17 AM Post #36
Posts: 3,488 Group: Member Member #10,141 Joined: September 7, 2013	Kaboom Jun 10 2015, 07:12 AM You are everything wrong with typical American "DBZ" fans. Selfish, closed-minded, xenophobic, thinking they're special, and wanting nothing but their own tastes accommodated. I'm an American too, and it's people like you who make me ashamed of titling myself as a Dragon Ball fan. This might be the most ironic paragraph I've ever read in my life. Are you really that narrow-minded that you are entirely unable to accept anyone having a different opinion than you on this subject? It's just a TV show and it's just music for a TV show. Calm down. I support Faulconer all the way. Please tell me how much of a disgrace I am. Edited by Slifer, Jun 10 2015, 07:18 AM.



lucrowe	Jun 10 2015, 07:22 AM Post #37
Posts: 1,149 Group: Member Member #11,578 Joined: August 5, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Gantz What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Not much of a fan..	Kaboom Jun 10 2015, 07:12 AM Super-Namek Jun 10 2015, 06:47 AM USA is not japan we dont like the japanese soundtrack its awkward and weird as f*** as an american (not hating its just a culture difference) IF FUni didnt dubb DBZ and Use Bruce falconers tracks it would of never have been as successful in the united states thats my opinion but i would honestly say its close to being a "fact" sounds to be u just want to act "cool and different" by wanting japanse soundtrack so go ahead, go watch a dbz in subs or orginal japanse and let us americans enjoy our Funi Dub's with a good soundtrack oh and btw if funi has enough funds to make KAI im sure they can spend some money to get a bruce falconer soundtrack "DBZ wouldn't have been successful here without those changes because America is a special cultural snowflake" is 100% unfounded, presumptuous horse sht. I'm not the out of the ordinary one here. Not if you look beyond this little USA fandom bubble you dwell in. It's literally only in America where DBZ's tone and presentation were changed so much in a thoughtless attempt to be "cool and different." No other region's dub used altered music, and yet DBZ excels everywhere it goes. This "cultural difference" excuse doesn't hold up. You are everything wrong with typical American "DBZ" fans. Selfish, closed-minded, xenophobic, thinking they're special, and wanting nothing but their own tastes accommodated. I'm an American too, and it's people like you who make me ashamed of titling myself as a Dragon Ball fan. I'll take the "elitist" title, translate it as "actually giving a damn about how the series is treated" and be proud of it. You're blind if you can't see the blatant disrespect your showing towards people who have a different OPINION to yours. Proper done with this topic and your bulls**. It's going no where. Thanks for ruining a harmless discussion bro!
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+ Emmeth	Jun 10 2015, 07:25 AM Post #38
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Let's not get into a fight here. If he can't see that he's had a certain lack of respect for members in this thread then that's his loss. No need to throw disrespect back.
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EMIYA	Jun 10 2015, 07:26 AM Post #39
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	Besides, nobody's going to actually try to replace the score either so get real. The money and effort it would take when people could just edit it themselves would be too much. If we got really lucky, like really..really lucky, we might get a options menu to change the music on the DVD release. Otherwise, the Western Dubbers aren't going to come down to Funimation Studio, cock a gun down the executives' throats and demand they put in Faulconer's music in.



Cloud	Jun 10 2015, 07:33 AM Post #40
. Posts: 223 Group: Donator Member #12,283 Joined: April 29, 2015 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	At best the fans get vocal about their wants, show a lot of support for it and get a public "No" from Funimation. But, we can still dream and watch the fan versions of it.



FutureProtagonist	Jun 10 2015, 07:35 AM Post #41
Quwrof Wrlccywrlir Posts: 2,545 Group: Member Member #11,890 Joined: December 5, 2014 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Soul Eater	Go hunt down that Akira Kurosawa hack for disrespecting Shakespeare when he adapted King Lear. How dare he Japanify it! I spit on that movie and everything it stands for. It's not a brilliant retake on a great work of art, it changed things; we just can't have that! To be clear, I'm not saying Bruce Falcouner is as talented as Kurosawa (hah!), but I am saying that making changes and reinterpreting things can often lead to something unique and great. I'm not saying that about the Funimation dubs, they blew and I don't much like Falcouner, but there are lots out there who do, and if it weren't for Funimation botching up the soundtrack and "being xenophobic", we'd have missed out on something a lot people consider to be great music. Besides, the CEO of Funimation is Japanese, who was even born there. Is he an uncle tom or something for allowing his studio to defile and violate Japanese culture? Quote: No. The "opinion" game is for all the power level bunk. This is not that. Translation: "How dare people take part in activities that I don't enjoy! Everyone should accommodate me, if I don't want to discuss powers, then no one should. If anyone discusses it in my vicinity, I will condemn them for being silly and shallow. It's true I obsess over a cheesy cartoon and get worked up for no reason myself, but I do it properly." If you don't like forums with battle power discussions, then you should not partake. Edited by FutureProtagonist, Jun 10 2015, 07:49 AM.
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~~GrooseStrikesBack~~	Jun 10 2015, 07:55 AM Post #42
Posts: 4,614 Group: Suspended Member #6,508 Joined: July 20, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Steve Austin Show: Unleashed. What Browser do you use? Can o Whoop Ass. Favourite Manga Family Friendly Version of the Steve Austin Show.	Kaboom Jun 10 2015, 04:07 AM No. FUNimation is a high quality company nowadays, and has matured beyond the tasteless and reprehensible practice of replacing the music in their dubs. There's no longer any place for Faulconer's material (not that there ever actually was), and I think it's high time that American DBZ fans were weaned off of it. The old English dub of DBZ was utter crap, and its "legacy" is a go-to example of "how to mistreat a series and irreversibly scar its reputation and fandom" that's topped in extremity only by 4Kids' stuff. Good riddance to all the replacement scores and everything else wrong with the old dub. Viva Kai, and bring on Super, a DB series that FUNi can finally treat respectfully from the start. My favourite wrestling quotes: "Would you please SHUT THE HELL UP!?" — Chris Jericho. "Know your role JABRONI AND SHUT YOUR MOUTH!" — Rock. "IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!" — Rock. "More delusion!" — Kevin Owens.



Jet	Jun 10 2015, 08:03 AM Post #43
Ruka is a dude Posts: 443 Group: Member Member #9,382 Joined: April 16, 2013 Gender Male Country New Zealand Favourite Anime LOGH, Berserk, Monster, Steins;Gate, Cowboy Bebop, FLCL, GITS, Studio Ghibli's stuff. What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer (message sent from 2005) Favourite Manga Berserk, Dragon Ball, Vagabond	After watching the original I found the orchestral style quite limited in what it could convey. There's a huge array of emotions, character personalities, situations etc that you need people to sense or feel through your music. You can't do that effectively with same-sounding/repetitious music. Faulconer's music, although flawed, did this relatively well. You could sense Vegeta's inflated sense of self importance straight away from his music, Freiza's sinister nature was there in his. Gohan's benign nature as he approached the battlefield to take on Buu, or Piccolo's pride, his nobleness, his loyalty. He definitely could have learned that absence of sound isn't necessarily a bad thing. Silence can be quite powerful in the right moments. Overall though, I think Faulconer's music did it better. Edited by Jet, Jun 10 2015, 08:06 AM.



Cloud	Jun 10 2015, 08:06 AM Post #44
. Posts: 223 Group: Donator Member #12,283 Joined: April 29, 2015 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Yu Yu Hakusho What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Berserk	Jet Jun 10 2015, 08:03 AM After watching the original I found the orchestral style quite limited in what it could convey. There's a huge array of emotions, character personalities, situations etc that you need people to sense or feel through your music. You can't do that effectively with same-sounding/repetitious music. Faulconer's music, although flawed, did this relatively well. You could sense Vegeta's inflated sense of self importance straight away from his music, Freiza's sinister nature was there in his. Gohan's benign nature as he approach the battlefield to take on Buu, or Piccolo's pride, his nobleness, his loyalty. He definitely could have learned that absence of sound isn't necessarily a bad thing. Silence can be quite powerful in the right moments. Overall though, I think Faulconer's music did it better. Oh god. His awkward scene transitions and goofy sounds he used when nothing was going on is the only thing that I can't stand about it. His "theme" songs however are so spot on that it's easy to forget the bad stuff.



Southern Gothic	Jun 10 2015, 08:28 AM Post #45
Dilly Dilly Posts: 1,248 Group: Donator Member #12,015 Joined: January 23, 2015 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball GT, Wicked City, Akira Favourite Manga Jaco the Galactic Patrolman	Emmeth Jun 10 2015, 07:15 AM Kaboom Jun 10 2015, 07:12 AM I'll take the "elitist" title, translate it as "actually giving a damn about how the series is treated" and be proud of it. Hey, I got a question for you. See that I choose to edit out all of Star Wars' music and replace it with the music from Lord of the Rings. What does that make me? Satan. Seriously though. While I do and always have prefered the Japanese score, it would be interesting to see what Faulconer good do with a better budget. The guy scored some good themes. It was the use of synthesizer that I found off putting. Either way, even if it sucked, that is the beauty of dvd and blu ray: multiple tracks.



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