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In a relationship with your "relative"
Topic Started: Jun 4 2015, 11:50 AM (3,351 Views)
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I can't even respond to that. It's so hilarious that i'm going to let you say whatever and get away with it.
Actually I will respond. Here is my response.

"OK, Dude"

http://listverse.com/2014/05/22/10-incendiary-facts-about-incest/
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A 1994 study found a mean excess mortality with inbreeding among first cousins of 4.4%.[116] Children of parent-child or sibling-sibling unions are at increased risk compared to cousin-cousin unions. Studies suggest that 20-36% of these children will die or have major disability due to the inbreeding.[9] A study of 29 offspring resulting from brother-sister or father-daughter incest found that 20 had congenital abnormalities, including four directly attributable to autosomal recessive alleles.[117]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest
https://www.mpicc.de/en/forschung/forschungsarbeit/gemeinsame_projekte/inzest/inzest_krim.html
http://www.faqs.org/health/topics/68/Incest.html
http://genetics.thetech.org/ask-a-geneticist/genetics-inbreeding
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2925369
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbreeding
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Examples

Although there are several examples of inbred populations of wild animals, the negative consequences of this inbreeding are poorly documented.

In the South American sea lion, there was concern that recent population crashes would reduce genetic diversity. Historical analysis indicated that a population expansion from just two matrilineal lines were responsible for most individuals within the population. Even so, the diversity within the lines allowed great variation in the gene pool that may help to protect the South American sea lion from extinction.[26]

In lions, prides are often followed by related males in bachelor groups. When the dominant male is killed or driven off by one of these bachelors, a father may be replaced by his son. There is no mechanism for preventing inbreeding or to ensure outcrossing. In the prides, most lionesses are related to one another. If there is more than one dominant male, the group of alpha males are usually related. Two lines are then being "line bred". Also, in some populations, such as the Crater lions, it is known that a population bottleneck has occurred. Researchers found far greater genetic heterozygosity than expected.[27] In fact, predators are known for low genetic variance, along with most of the top portion of the trophic levels of an ecosystem.[28] Additionally, the alpha males of two neighboring prides can potentially be from the same litter; one brother may come to acquire leadership over another's pride, and subsequently mate with his 'nieces' or cousins. However, killing another male's cubs, upon the takeover, allows the new selected gene complement of the incoming alpha male to prevail over the previous male. There are genetic assays being scheduled for lions to determine their genetic diversity. The preliminary studies show results inconsistent with the outcrossing paradigm based on individual environments of the studied groups.[27]

In Central California, Sea Otters were thought to have been driven to extinction due to over hunting, until a colony of about 30 breeding pairs was discovered in the Big Sur region in the 1930s. Since then, the population has grown and spread along the central Californian coast to around 2,000 individuals, a level that has remained stable for over a decade. Population growth is limited by the fact that all Californian Sea Otters are descended from the isolated colony, resulting in inbreeding.[citation needed]

Cheetahs are another example of inbreeding. Thousands of years ago the cheetah went through a population bottleneck that reduced its population dramatically so the animals that are alive today are all related to one another. A consequence from inbreeding for this species has been high juvenile mortality, low fecundity, and poor breeding success.[29]

In a study on an island population of song sparrows, individuals that were inbred showed significantly lower survival rates than outbred individuals during a severe winter weather related population crash. These studies show that inbreeding depression and ecological factors have an influence on survival.[14]
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You know who else inter-married to create a strong bloodline? The Targaryens.

Know what happened to them? Half of them went crazy and they got wiped out.

Case closed.
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Jun 5 2015, 07:24 AM
Impress ? barbarian ? you are the kind of people who i dont like speaking this matter with . you are too peaceful..... love ? a world war is probably coming and you are still thinking about that ? im thinking of increasing my survival chances and living through it . and i want a warrior bloodline because i like the old way . this is a forum called dbzf an anime that is all about fighting and making you count by your power . i find it weird that people who love this arent pushed to become it . i want to have the strongest bloodline not a weak one .. love can be gained over time but not genetics and unique abilities . you find it weird i want strong children ? are you trolling ? . ps i didnt say we are the strongest . i said we have the potential easier and we are stronger than normal hence i didnt say we are super elite indicating we are still human level because my subbranch is very peaceful and thinks like you . love ...peace..... you mean weak right ? again everyone is entitled to his opinion and im just explaining my point . back then fighting a lion was normal now escaping from a dog is regarded as incredible . i admire the strength of the ancients not their barbaric killing of animals just to showcase strength . does everyone get it now ? . side note : i thought you just post your opinion then leave since its not deep discussion and its not exactly a debatable topic . i didnt actually think we are going to agree since we are both(me / everyone else) from very different cultures but one of the many reasons for children mutations is alchohol / drugs even weak ones / having sex with multiple partners throughout life . so you cant put it on relative breeding since we dont have these problems in the middle east . we have them from poor living conditions and you will be surprised how we are still alive after you know how we live . you dont wanna know really . btw my family thinks like you that im an extremist .barbarian thinking.live in a jungle type of thinking . but i know im the right one . fighting is awesome . doesnt anyone here get pleasure from fighting ? sexual pleasure at least ?
There's so much wrong with this paragraph.

1. Dragonball Z is not real. Just because I enjoy a fictional show, it does not mean that I should strive to become it.

2. Fighting a lion was not normal 'back then'.

2. There is proof that inbreeding causes many negative effects, as Rockman has shown in his post.

3. Having sex with multiple partners causes genetic mutations of your offspring? That just sounds like plain brainwashing.

However, the sexual pleasure line at the end makes me think that you are trolling (and I hope you are).
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first i didnt say father son daughter mother . i said cousins . second dexter wanted to know if its acceptable . it is in east but not in west . that was the question . my family was an example of my thinking thats all but its not the topic . i dont care what you think . this isnt a debate but a question with yes or no . not everyone thinks like you . i like fighting and would mate with a strong partner period unless she is my sister period . i dont care what science says nor do i care about people's opinions . i want my warrior bloodline to continue to be pure . second people who dont love fighting will never understand the pleasure of battle . live your cattle lives as you like . love and peace....... seriously..? . there is std if you know what that means . third if you wish not to do this your choice . if you do your choice to . I DONT CARE nor am i critisizing anyone . do as you wish . what are we debating hete ? my beliefs ? they are my business not yours . btw what is wrong in having sexual pleasure in battle ? you are kidding right ? . are you serious ? for real ? who doesnt get turned on and excited by battle ? you almost got me there i thought you were true until i saw that statement . good one bro .
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Evidence you didn't read any of the links I posted, nor read any of the quotes I contained.

They all, science says, that your inbreeding will lead to feeble, genetically diseased children within a few generations. And you think your children will be warriors? You're sadly mistaken...

First off, prove you're a warrior yourself, and not some pleb sitting behind a computer. I have my doubts.
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I just wanna add one last thing . frankly there is no reason for this debate because im not even opposing or hostile to your opinion at all . i dont care and neither should you. why are you debating me if i dont even oppose your idea .
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Jun 5 2015, 01:48 PM
I just wanna add one last thing . frankly there is no reason for this debate because im not even opposing or hostile to your opinion at all . i dont care and neither should you. why are you debating me if i dont even oppose your idea .
Because you're wrong.
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It's not socially acceptable on a global level, but I personally don't care. I've always lived by a "people can do whatever they want as long as it isn't hurting anybody" mindset. Of course they should probably avoid having children, even if they came out perfectly healthy, they'd probably be bullied like no other.
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bullied in your culture not mine . and thus is a belief its subjective . lastly no offense but in our communities we dont have these problems . we are bred like this for hundreds of yours and we dont have your problems . and a warrior is like saying i go to the gym meaning being a warrior is loving battle . but lifting a car thats called brute force for a reason . being a brute a very strong person . being a warrior is loving to battle . what is there to prove ?
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I love Incest......when it's plastered over talk shows like Steve Wilkos and have the most hilarious outcomes.

It is unfortunately acceptable in my people to sometimes marry your cousins or 2nd cousins although my family hasn't and recognize it as a wrong. It still hasn't stopped distant family/people far back home from committing the act though however disgusting I find it to be.
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Is a relationship between second cousins socially acceptable? Nah. You'll get a lot of flack. But, is it socialy condemned? Not really, only 6 states have made it illegal. However, you DO share about 3% of your DNA, so for a child's sake I would highly consider adoption. So, if you're both consenting adults and in love, is it worth pleasing society to deny yourself happiness? I really don't think so.
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.

I don't see a problem if it's cousins and they love each other. Anything closer than that is wrong and incredibly irresponsible when they have kids, like brother and sister even half, no.

Wonder why it's legal to marry your cousin? Because it's safe or maybe it's just assumed that if it was illegal, taboo, people would get with their cousins more often.

Well...can't say that'd be wrong if so :rofl:


But yeah cousins are okay, wouldn't get with one myself but if you want to get technical we all descend from a small amount of humans so we all share DNA anyway if cousins love each other that much so be it.

I should think the older party should be responsible enough to not get in such a relationship when it'd be nephew and aunt, granddaughter and grandfather though, they should know better.


Also I've seen people say it's fine if it's a homosexual relationship like somehow because they can't have kids nothing is wrong with the incest then, that's pretty stupid.
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Jun 5 2015, 02:01 PM
bullied in your culture not mine . and thus is a belief its subjective . lastly no offense but in our communities we dont have these problems . we are bred like this for hundreds of yours and we dont have your problems . and a warrior is like saying i go to the gym meaning being a warrior is loving battle . but lifting a car thats called brute force for a reason . being a brute a very strong person . being a warrior is loving to battle . what is there to prove ?
People are debating you because you sound like you're trolling to an absurd extent. Like, Navy Seal Copypasta levels of internet tough guy. What's the name of your warrior clan, I'll go look it up and hear of your impressive feats. By the way, loving battle is pretty damn psychotic because it leads to people making the battles happen.
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is this about relative marriage or my family ? i just used my family as an example . i see what you did there . you want me to keep talking thus going off topic and getting banned by rogue lol . i thought you are a good guy . oh btw most of japan are from elite warrior clans so they are being tough guys when they say my family is a warrior clan ? only reason i dont want to tell anyone because someone might harrass or cyberstalk a family member . some people here arent exactly nice so to speak.
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From what I gather, most people that fight in wars don't love the battle itself. They do it for all sorts of different reasons (protect family & nation, a sense of duty, prove themselves) but very rarely do they actually love the battle. The people who say they love to battle have most likely never been in one.
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