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Captain Levi vs Batman
Topic Started: May 29 2015, 12:47 AM (2,165 Views)
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Batman is equipped with whatever he usually carries around, Levi has his 3D gear. Fight takes place in Gotham, starts on a rooftop.
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I would let it go, but there has to be a way to justify how Bats has got the jump on Supes so many times over the years with that damn Kryptonite. I'll give him the Jedi reflexes lol.
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Just because he does it a lot doesn't make it part of his power set, especially since the majority of the time, he's not that fast. Joker has been a physical rival to Batman many times, doesn't mean he actually is(unless you think that a skinny clown with no martial arts skill is Batman's physical equal)
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May 29 2015, 01:26 AM

He also dodges musket shots. And yeah, his powers are never really explained.
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That was from an OVA, there have been a few. That one came from an OVA detailing Levi's backstory. Check out this page, it's quite helpful
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Attack_on_Titan_episodes
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Levi's definitely faster than Batman but there's not much he can do against gadgets, like smoke grenades and such he has no experience fighting an opponent that's crafty like that.

Depends what Batman we're talking about here and what gear he has on him if it's just Batarangs he'd lose of course.


Titan flesh doesn't seem all that strong their bodies break if they hit pretty much anything, with the exception of those who harden their skin, plus they're relatively light.
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The blades themselves are quite strong

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May 30 2015, 12:21 PM
The blades themselves are quite strong

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Yeah but remember when those two captive Titans are killed? Didn't take much to cut one of their arms off. When Hanji realizes they're really light.

Not to mention they're big, slow and dumb targets.

What stops Batman using his grappling hook to tangle up Levi's cables? They only have spare blades the set of cables are all they have.
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Yeah but remember when those two captive Titans are killed? Didn't take much to cut one of their arms off. When Hanji realizes they're really light.

Not to mention they're big, slow and dumb targets.

What stops Batman using his grappling hook to tangle up Levi's cables? They only have spare blades the set of cables are all they have.
True, but that feat shows that they're sharp and strong enough to injure Batman, severely if Levi lands a hit. Considering that the location is Gotham, Levi has the advantage, as he has a ton of options with the 3DMG. How fast is the grappling hook?
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I have to say, I believe batman has a good possibility of winning this.
We do have to remember Batman is pretty much the opposite of what Levi' used to fighting. He's small, intelligent, and quick and if he doesn't think he'll win head on he'll gladly hide and attack from the shadows. In addition of we're talking for what he usually has...
That would presumably be the batclaw, batarang, batvehicle remote, maybe that gadget that summons hordes of bats, smoke pellets, and probably another bunch of varieties of batarangs, like one that explodes and another that is remote controlled.
Levi can probably win, if he takes the fight in the first 20~ seconds by... Well running him through before Wayne figures out levi. However I think Batman can survive long enough to understand his opponent well enough, or at least his equipment. If Batman cuts the cables of the 3d gear that Levi uses to moves during battle, levi will be left with his swords, which while he's still a threat then, I do believe Batman has the advantage if Levi cannot hit and run. Which will result in a fight in which Batman eventually disarms Levi and puts him down with his punches, kicks, and leg breaking. In addition he can still use his batclaw to catch Levi in the middle of his zipping about, though whether he actually hits him with it is another matter.
In addition if he feels he needs to, he can get in his various batvehicles to battle in them, granted I don't see him pulling them out for combat here, so they're probably irrelevant.

This battle I feel is more or less decided if Batman survives (or doesn't) the first rounds of Levi attempting to kill him. If he lives, victory is gonna come, if not, he'll be dead.
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The problem is that for such a great strategist, Batman's an idiot when it comes to using his gadgets. He never uses them right off the bat, he likes to test the waters out with punches and kicks first. Even against Bane, Batman usually doesn't go for sonics, gases, or tasers. At most, Batman throws a couple of batarangs or uses the batclaw.

Problem is that Levi is FAR too fast for this and unlike Batman, he doesn't bulls*** around. Batman is going to try a punch, Levi slingshots forward, Batman is cut in half.
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May 30 2015, 02:29 PM
The problem is that for such a great strategist, Batman's an idiot when it comes to using his gadgets. He never uses them right off the bat, he likes to test the waters out with punches and kicks first. Even against Bane, Batman usually doesn't go for sonics, gases, or tasers. At most, Batman throws a couple of batarangs or uses the batclaw.

Problem is that Levi is FAR too fast for this and unlike Batman, he doesn't bulls*** around. Batman is going to try a punch, Levi slingshots forward, Batman is cut in half.
Yes Lazer, the world's greatest detective is an idiot. He's an effective fighter that's fought and defeated Supers through timing, technique, patience and wits. Gadgets do not make a hero. There is no situation in which Batman doesn't know what he's doing.
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Except that he's never beaten Superman outside of terrible writing, non-canon, or Superman holding back.

And yes, Batman's strategic intelligence in combat is vastly overrated. He prefers to use melee and only uses gadgets as a last resort, because of this, he has trouble with the Joker and a bunch of other human level thugs. Even against the Hush Virus infected Killer Croc, Batman tries punching him before realizing he needs sonics. Because in Batman logic, punching the ten foot tall reptile monster is sure to work.

Batman is great at planning things out, but in actual combat, it seems like he forgets he has all these gadgets to begin with and as a result, has gotten stabbed, shot, and hit many more times than he should have been
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May 31 2015, 07:42 PM
Except that he's never beaten Superman outside of terrible writing, non-canon, or Superman holding back.
So why is him not using gadgets not terrible writing? It's obviously so there can be a climax if he won instantly the comics would never sell.

Do you mean sonics against Bane from DKR? 'cause I'm pretty sure that Bane would probably just power through it he's better trained than Batman...just not the good guy of course.


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True, but that feat shows that they're sharp and strong enough to injure Batman, severely if Levi lands a hit. Considering that the location is Gotham, Levi has the advantage, as he has a ton of options with the 3DMG. How fast is the grappling hook?


Not really, if Batman goes up top Levi has to take a fairly linear route to get there since he could only pull the cables in towards where they stick in, not like he can fly.
All Batman has to do there is go high up and he can throw stuff at Levi while he attempts to get there.

Levi's fairly screwed if Batman has anything he can use to electrocute the cables too.

He could also use bolas to tangle them up and Levi's movement advantage is crippled.
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The difference is that it's a matter of being in character or not. There are lots of characters who don't start off fights with the big guns, Batman happens to be one of them. Maybe using all of the really high tech gadgets right off the bat would be too unsatisfying, maybe it's too expensive, who knows. But it's a definite character trait

And if the sonics can stop Hush Killer Croc, they would drop Bane instantly. Hush Killer Croc was actually really powerful and Bane usually isn't on that level. If Batman started off with the hax gadgets, Levi would probably lose due to some weird gadget. But like I said, Batman prefers to punch people in the face.

Batman does use the bolas and batarangs fairly liberally, but I have a hard time seeing those hit. Levi can dodge musket shots after all, and even those should be faster than what Batman can throw.
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I'm sure it has a little something to do with censorship too. And story telling. Batarang to the face will usually game someone like the Joker pretty easy. Like honestly, what sort of story are we gonna tell if Batman shows up and punches out Joker in one shot? Not one at all. Plot >>> Power levels every time man.
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