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Why do Catholics worship idols?
Topic Started: May 23 2015, 08:49 AM (1,363 Views)
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I mean in the bible basically throughout the whole the old and new testament it was clearly stated that none shall practice idolatry

Yet, we see everywhere that they worship statues, paintings and pray for them

"They have been taught by the Roman Catholic Church that the images and icons used in the church are not actually “worshiped” but are simply “visual aids” to worship."


I think it is bulls***

It is the exact example for : Running with the hare and hunting with the hounds
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They don't really think of it like that though. In their mind, the quickest way to get closer to god is to pray to anything related to him. It is blasphemy to deface anything of religious importance in a Catholic church as they believe that it belongs to God.
They also believe that praying to, not worshipping, saints and Jesus, is another way to talk to God. That there is a chain effect. Especially in the Latin American community, the belief is that this has a very good outcome. That Saint Mary is very compassionate and looks after God's children. So they pray to her. Why you see so many Mary images.

I'd like to point out that the manner in which you're judging another religion, is the same manner in which the non-religious judge you.
For instance, how can you use a cross as a symbol of God? The cross is a torture device. It's the equivalent of using
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i guess for the cross thing it's more of a symbol of what christ went through for mankind rather than the device
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Yeh, the point of the cross is to show the crap Jesus went through for mankind.
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Now you see the flaw in OP's judgmental logic. Even if that's not really how I think about crosses.

If not, then you missed the big picture.
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It's just way to help you connect with God
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This argument has been going on ever since Protestantism first branched off from Catholicism centuries ago, so good luck finding an answer that you'll actually agree with.

Why do Protestants insist on having such a personal, direct connection with God? Since he is such a powerful deity, wouldn't it be best to communicate with him through saints and priests? We humans are lowly scum. We should bow down and worship him, not try to become his best pal. <----- What the opposite extremist side might say. :p
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Even Muslims do this in India.
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But still the whole point of using idols as a "connection" to god is still against the very law GOD has spoken not to bypass in the new testament.

Odd.

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May 24 2015, 08:45 AM
But still the whole point of using idols as a "connection" to god is still against the very law GOD has spoken not to bypass in the new testament.

Odd.
When was the last time you followed the bible word for word. Especially Leviticus.
If you're going to make it a point to judge another group of your own religion, at least walk the walk.
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May 24 2015, 01:20 PM
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May 24 2015, 08:45 AM
But still the whole point of using idols as a "connection" to god is still against the very law GOD has spoken not to bypass in the new testament.

Odd.
When was the last time you followed the bible word for word. Especially Leviticus.
If you're going to make it a point to judge another group of your own religion, at least walk the walk.
You can not change the fact that Catholics love to "worship" jesus staues and pictures. Something which was FORBIDDEN to do in the bible.

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You can say it is for the better "connections" but it is still idoltatry





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The first commandment says:

"I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them "(Ex. 20:2–5).



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"There are good reasons for not using images in worship. First of all, the use of physical images to “aid” worship violates the command to worship God “in spirit and in truth” (John 4:23-24). ( But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.)
Also, no one knows what God looks like, and John 1:18 is clear concerning this truth: (No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.) And, because God is Spirit (John 4:24a),(God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth) it is irreverent to delineate Him as an iconic representation. No one alive knows what Jesus Christ looked like in the flesh, and, since there were no cameras when He walked the earth, the only description of His appearance is found in Isaiah 53:2-3, (For he grew up before him like a young plant,
and like a root out of dry ground;
he had no form or majesty that we should look at him,
and no beauty that we should desire him.
He was despised and rejected by men;
a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief;
and as one
)which says that He had “no stately form or majesty.”
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They don't "worship" statues or idols, so it isn't idolatry. Catholics respect the saints and pay those respects, but they do not worship them. At least get your facts straight.

Besides, Jesus is god, so how is that idolatry?
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Yeah that doesn't make sensed. Jesus is God and the father is God.
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They don't "worship" statues or idols, so it isn't idolatry. Catholics respect the saints and pay those respects, but they do not worship them. At least get your facts straight.




....'You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them "(Ex. 20:2-5).



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they still dont give a damn about the "quote" above


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Besides, Jesus is god, so how is that idolatry?


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"There are good reasons for not using images in worship. First of all, the use of physical images to “aid” worship violates the command to worship God “in spirit and in truth” (John 4:23-24). ( But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.)
Also, no one knows what God looks like, and John 1:18 is clear concerning this truth: (No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.) And, because God is Spirit (John 4:24a),(God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth) it is irreverent to delineate Him as an iconic representation. No one alive knows what Jesus Christ looked like in the flesh, and, since there were no cameras when He walked the earth, the only description of His appearance is found in Isaiah 53:2-3, (For he grew up before him like a young plant,
and like a root out of dry ground;
he had no form or majesty that we should look at him,
and no beauty that we should desire him.
He was despised and rejected by men;
a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief;
and as one
)which says that He had “no stately form or majesty.”




this quote shows that christians shall not use idols and self made pictures in worship. It is not that for of idolatry where they worship and bow down to pagan idols, but still a form of idolatry as they do the exact same thing they were thought not to do.

The reason I created this thread was that I have witnessed a catholic ceremony where all of the people at the church had to kiss the golden ring (anf thus the hand of the priest)....WTF....just WTF

Christians...yeah not just catholics do the exact same thing.....They bow down to statues ....jesus statues, Mary statues, and pictures ...they talk to them and pray near them.......what is it if not idolatry?
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