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| + Pelador | May 21 2015, 03:57 PM Post #1 |
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Toguru from Yu Yu Hakusho runs the DBZ gauntlet. How far can he go? Saiyan Saga Radditz Nappa Vegeta Freeza Saga Cui Vegeta Dodoria Zarbon Monster Zarbon Recoome Jeice Burter Ginyu Freeza first form Freeza second form Freeza third form Freeza fourth form Freeza 50% Freeza 100% Cell Saga Android 19 Android 20 Cyborg 18 Cyborg 17 Inperfect Cell Android 16 Semi Perfect Cell Cell Junior Initial perfect Cell Cell games Perfect Cell warm up 50% Perfect Cell 100% Perfect Cell Super Perfect cell I can't see him getting past First form Freeza but I can imagine him beating Ginyu. |
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| + Pelador | May 24 2015, 05:00 PM Post #31 |
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Well technically DBZ characters wouldn't be able to either. They'd block it or get sent flying. Togoru can withstand that easily so long as he isn't hit square on. |
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| + Steve | May 24 2015, 05:10 PM Post #32 |
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It wouldn't kill him anyway all it is is a wide explosion. You can't really define how powerful an explosion is just by the area it destroys, there are many kinds of explosions. Big ones that blow everything away. Small ones that absolutely destroy everything in the area. The latter is more powerful because it can destroy tougher materials. The technique Nappa used only had to have enough strength to destroy buildings over a large area, buildings aren't fantastically durable. The best that would do to Toguro is some surface damage unless he's being hit with concentrated human spirit energy then it's not doing much, plus he'll be healed mere seconds later. |
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| + Solid Snake | May 24 2015, 05:29 PM Post #33 |
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Goku did it before. I doubt dude can though. It don't work like that, a nuclear bomb's explosion can wipe out an entire city and kill all those within it's radius. King Piccolo attack was near similar, he held back power to persuade King Furry that it's futile to stand up to him. Toguru ain't gonna be living through that despite it being big or small. |
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| + Pelador | May 24 2015, 05:57 PM Post #34 |
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I don't think it was anywhere near a nuclear blast. |
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| + Steve | May 24 2015, 07:56 PM Post #35 |
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Actually a nuclear explosion isn't all that, it's the radiation that kills people. Plenty people have survived them, though nothing huge but there's loads of survivors from Hiroshima who were right there. If it doesn't destroy completely everything then it's not that incredible an explosion, destroying buildings and rock is no mean feat it's just a big explosion. Not sure how to explain it. I guess the water pressure analogy? Same power but spread over a huge area does far less damage, concentrated explosions or blasts are where the real power is at. |
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| + Solid Snake | May 24 2015, 11:10 PM Post #36 |
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Can believe you left out the heat as well, and the powerful winds that flattens almost anything. But I still doubt Toguru could tank an attack of that magnitude anyway. How fast can he fight? Can he do battles in under a second seemingly in a blink of an eye? |
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| + Pelador | May 24 2015, 11:23 PM Post #37 |
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Who ever had a battle in under a second? Dragonball and Dragonball Z famously have incredibly drawn out battles between main characters. His combat speed is so fast that only B class Yokai and above can touch him. |
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| + Steve | May 24 2015, 11:41 PM Post #38 |
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Not really if you look at nuclear test sites half the time the buildings are still there, slightly damaged by the shockwaves and radiation but that's it. The reason they're so deadly is radiation, where they go off the land will be affected by it for hundreds of years. Does far more damage than just the explosion. There's never any stated feats like that but it doesn't mean they didn't happen, same as how in Naruto people are definitely going as fast as lightning or faster but it's never stated but because it's never stated people just decide they're slow battles even though with the speed they move time would appear to be standing still. Anyway that's not really how he fights in the series because he never has to fight someone who can do much to him against Yusuke he just pisses around speeding behind him and punching him around. Yusuke was far to weak to have any sort of fist fight with him he only really won because of plot hax. |
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| + Pelador | May 25 2015, 12:49 AM Post #39 |
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Yeah like I said, until the Deus Ex Machina, Yusuke's attacks just bounce off. Even his big ki blast did nothing. No one in Dragonball ever tanks an attack without blocking until Nappa. |
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| DSTREET45 | May 25 2015, 03:12 AM Post #40 |
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Krillin and Roshi went a few rounds within a second in the 21st Budokai. Twice. |
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| + supersaqer | May 25 2015, 12:17 PM Post #41 |
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How fast were the blasts? 23rd TB Goku dodged a blast which crossed the island in a single panel midair. There are actually nuclear bombs which are town level. Piccolo's ki blast destroyed a city. Nuclear explosions are extremely powerful. People that survived them were far far away from ground zero. The explosion of a nuclear explosion is omnidirectional. That's why people can survive it. A fraction of the power hits them, and being far away, they could survive the initial explosion. Be at ground zero, and you'll cease from existence. The ones who died from Hiroshima explosion were in the hundred thousand. That's damn a lot. Nuclear explosions can reach temperatures above that of the core of the sun in a fraction of a second, but that's plenty of time to vaporize anything. Humans and some structures were instantly obliterated, vaporized. |
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| + Steve | May 25 2015, 02:39 PM Post #42 |
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Actually not really, the actual explosion doesn't do that much there will still be rubble around ground zero it's not like a big DBZ style explosion goes off and makes a massive cleanly cut crater the shockwaves and radiation do more than the actual explosion. A blast crossing whatever distance in how many panels doesn't really mean anything there's no way to tell how fast it is or how much time passed in the panel. In YYH they fire Spirit Guns that go way up in to the atmosphere within a panel, no way to tell how past they are. But no matter how fast it is attacks like that most often work like lasers so even if it would cut through Toguro it would do next to no damage. 0:58 A small beam, given the size of him is just going to make a relatively tiny hole that will be gone in seconds(anime shows it really slow, way faster in the manga) Any attack that actually detonates with a decent explosion takes charge time so he's easily dodging those. |
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| + supersaqer | May 25 2015, 06:01 PM Post #43 |
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What kind of yield are you talking about? Nuclear weapons differ greatly, but generally at ground zero, a nuclear bomb can destroy anything due the destructiveness and immense heat of it. A fraction of a second should have passed, nothing more. Considering Piccolo shot Goku, Goku dodged, and it crossed the island in the same panel. It should be ridiculously fast considering how big the island is. Spirit Guns do not go to the atmosphere. I have checked. They just tend to go a bit far, but that's it. Next to no damage? Then why Goku went on and dodged it instead of tanking it? So Toguro is invincible and is able to dodge anything that takes a charge time, right? |
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| + Steve | May 26 2015, 01:24 AM Post #44 |
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You missed the point, still crosses a great distance in a panel or two, no way to tell how fast that actually went. Next to no damage to Toguro, as we know from not long later in the series Goku can't handle a hole through his esophagus would be fatal to him but meaningless to Toguro.Not invincible but he regenerates from anything that doesn't completely blow up his body, though we never saw the extent of his regen like if he can handle his head being blown off or not. Which gives him a good advantage because it's not until way later in the series that they figure out how to deal with people who regenerate. Also reserves early on are quite crappy they'd have to spam blasts to kill him and once they run out they're screwed. Toguro doesn't really use up any energy because he fights with raw strength, so far as we saw anyway. |
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| + supersaqer | May 26 2015, 10:22 AM Post #45 |
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Not even remotely close to what that ki blast crossed. That's because the Makankosappo is extremely dangerous and powerful. That's why it killed him. There's a huge difference between pain tolerance and durability. He cannot regenerate from an attack more powerful than him. Look at what happened at the end of his fight against Yusuke. Also an attack that has insane dc would just blow through him and kill him instantly. They weren't crappy. Goku and Piccolo fought full effort from the morning to the dawn. Please do not use useless and wrong arguments. He would get blitzed and killed. The amount of down-play DB receives here is agonizing. |
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would be fatal to him but meaningless to Toguro.
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