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Toguro runs the Dragonball Z gauntlet.
Topic Started: May 21 2015, 03:57 PM (3,955 Views)
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Toguru from Yu Yu Hakusho runs the DBZ gauntlet. How far can he go?

Saiyan Saga

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Freeza third form
Freeza fourth form
Freeza 50%
Freeza 100%

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Android 19
Android 20
Cyborg 18
Cyborg 17
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Android 16
Semi Perfect Cell
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Initial perfect Cell
Cell games Perfect Cell warm up
50% Perfect Cell
100% Perfect Cell
Super Perfect cell


I can't see him getting past First form Freeza but I can imagine him beating Ginyu.


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I now think so too after watching more episodes. He's probably Nappa level. So I don't think he gets past Saiyan saga Vegeta.


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May 22 2015, 07:09 PM
Toguro can't casually blow up the moon and as far as we know, fight at hypersonic speeds.

I'd say saiyan saga is all he gets to overall. Physical attacks...middle of namek saga sounds about right
Are you being sarcastic here or what?

Toguro can't even blow up the moon at his maximum power, and isn't anywhere even remotely close to that, but you put him in the middle of the Namek Saga? Are you for real?

Toguro is 22nd TB material at the very best.
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To girl is way too fast for anyone before Raditz. That's fairly obvious.
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He's a top tier B class Yokai bordering on A class. The lowest S class Yokai fight like Namek saga fighters which includes the flying, casual mountain crushing and the super fast air combat. There's no way he can only be 22nd Budokai tier when he's only a few levels short of achieving that. At the very minimum he is Radditz level.

Blowing up the moon is a stupid feat that shouldn't even be considered. The amount of ki required is beyond what anyone in that era should have been able to achieve. I mean s***, Saiyan saga Piccolo's Makenkasappo only blew up one mountain. It doesn't add up at all and therefore it should be considered a joke feat.

Besides, he may not be able to fire ki blasts but he sure can tank them. Not little piercing beams either. What Yosuke fired at him was like a super Kamehameha from his finger.


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He's a top tier B class Yokai bordering on A class. The lowest S class Yokai fight like Namek saga fighters which includes the flying, casual mountain crushing and the super fast air combat. There's no way he can only be 22nd Budokai tier when he's only a few levels short of achieving that. At the very minimum he is Radditz level.

Blowing up the moon is a stupid feat that shouldn't even be considered. The amount of ki required is beyond what anyone in that era should have been able to achieve. I mean s***, Saiyan saga Piccolo's Makenkasappo only blew up one mountain. It doesn't add up at all and therefore it should be considered a joke feat.

Besides, he may not be able to fire ki blasts but he sure can tank them. Not little piercing beams either. What Yosuke fired at him was like a super Kamehameha from his finger.
Few levels short of achieving that? We know the gap between levels are freaking humongous. Also what you stated is absolutely nothing to even Raditz.

I don't remember it blowing up a mountain, but it's a concentrated beam. It has extremely piercing power, but not much AoE.

Prove Yusuke's Reigan is as powerful as a Super Kamehameha. That Kamehameha had power to shatter the moon. Yusuke's Reigan isn't even remotely close to that.
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Well for one thing the Spirit Gun is fairly concentrated.

Not only that but Demon energy is weak against Human Spirit Energy so as powerful as the attack is it's also something Toguro's body should be weak against and he still tanks it.

Another advantage he has is his pain tolerance, when people in DBZ get hurt they either scream about it or get mad and make mistakes.

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Moon feats are pointless since energy attacks are easily dodgeable and take a relatively long a*** time to charge whereas as Toguro need only flick his finger to shoot vacuum bullets at people.

Which incidentally should do serious damage to low level opponents, since it's not Ki but actual air. That should damage them in the same way a physical attack does really.
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May 23 2015, 11:38 AM
Well for one thing the Spirit Gun is fairly concentrated.

Not only that but Demon energy is weak against Human Spirit Energy so as powerful as the attack is it's also something Toguro's body should be weak against and he still tanks it.

Another advantage he has is his pain tolerance, when people in DBZ get hurt they either scream about it or get mad and make mistakes.

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Moon feats are pointless since energy attacks are easily dodgeable and take a relatively long a*** time to charge whereas as Toguro need only flick his finger to shoot vacuum bullets at people.

Which incidentally should do serious damage to low level opponents, since it's not Ki but actual air. That should damage them in the same way a physical attack does really.
People in Dragon Ball have pain tolerance, but not to the extent of Toguro I guess.

They're not pointless, and not easily dodged. They don't take a long time charging. Goku dodged a blast from Piccolo mid-air that crossed the whole island in the same panel. Show me Toguro having a feat anywhere close that that.

That won't damage them, unless you can prove that his finger bullets can actually be as potent as ki blasts.
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May 23 2015, 11:38 AM
Well for one thing the Spirit Gun is fairly concentrated.

Not only that but Demon energy is weak against Human Spirit Energy so as powerful as the attack is it's also something Toguro's body should be weak against and he still tanks it.

Another advantage he has is his pain tolerance, when people in DBZ get hurt they either scream about it or get mad and make mistakes.

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Moon feats are pointless since energy attacks are easily dodgeable and take a relatively long a*** time to charge whereas as Toguro need only flick his finger to shoot vacuum bullets at people.

Which incidentally should do serious damage to low level opponents, since it's not Ki but actual air. That should damage them in the same way a physical attack does really.
Ki blasts are not slow, if the manga can't help define it the surely the recent films disprove that. How hard does this dude punch anyway? Does he knock people into mountains or create gaping craters? Can he have an entire battle in under a second? Can he handle explosive ki blasts that can crush cities to moon level? Can he handle piercing ki blast that can penetrate those with island to moon level durability (though I hear he has regeneration correct?)?

If dude can't handle that then he's not making it past even King Piccolo.
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Yes he can easily knock people into mountains and create gaping craters. There's even a scene where one character punches the ground next to the crater he made to show the difference in their power by comparing crater sizes.

He can tank medium level blasts but he could easily dodge a city vaporising one due to his impressive speed. This guy makes a toy of King Picollo.


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Toguro can't casually blow up the moon and as far as we know, fight at hypersonic speeds.

I'd say saiyan saga is all he gets to overall. Physical attacks...middle of namek saga sounds about right
Are you being sarcastic here or what?

Toguro can't even blow up the moon at his maximum power, and isn't anywhere even remotely close to that, but you put him in the middle of the Namek Saga? Are you for real?

Toguro is 22nd TB material at the very best.
I said physical attacks. Energy based attacks raditz wins hands down. But toguro's physical attacks are pretty strong. Remember that crater he made?
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Energy attacks just aren't that fast until you get to high tiers, that blast doesn't cross a whole continent. You can clearly see the area it crosses isn't that big because otherwise the trees would be massive.

Also DB world is the exact same size as our world apparently so if you look at the map...nowhere near a continent. That's simply wrong really.


It should also be noted that the differences between Toguro at 30%, 60%, 125% etc aren't linear boosts either, he definitely doesn't only get 20% faster/stronger against Yusuke when he goes from IIRC 80% to 100. The amount of raw strength he gains is way too much for that.

Also he's around 70 years old so he has way more battle experience than anyone in Dragon Ball who might pose any sort of threat to him, besides King Piccolo but he sucks. So that gives him a big advantage.
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Yes he can easily knock people into mountains and create gaping craters. There's even a scene where one character punches the ground next to the crater he made to show the difference in their power by comparing crater sizes.

He can tank medium level blasts but he could easily dodge a city vaporising one due to his impressive speed. This guy makes a toy of King Picollo.
Don't remember him knocking people into mountains. Although I remember the rest.

He cannot, absolutely not. He cannot dodge any blasts too. Lol old King Piccolo would make a mockery out of him.

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Toguro can't casually blow up the moon and as far as we know, fight at hypersonic speeds.

I'd say saiyan saga is all he gets to overall. Physical attacks...middle of namek saga sounds about right
Are you being sarcastic here or what?

Toguro can't even blow up the moon at his maximum power, and isn't anywhere even remotely close to that, but you put him in the middle of the Namek Saga? Are you for real?

Toguro is 22nd TB material at the very best.
I said physical attacks. Energy based attacks raditz wins hands down. But toguro's physical attacks are pretty strong. Remember that crater he made?
As I said, not every mangaka uses the same ways of showing destruction. We know that punches can be sometimes close to the power of ki blasts, sometimes even more powerful.

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Pretty sure Togoru has dodged blasts a few times. That's why Yusuke had to keep trying to get right in his face. Even then he tanked it like it was nothing until the very end due to Deus Ex Machina.


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May 24 2015, 02:42 PM
Pretty sure Togoru has dodged blasts a few times. That's why Yusuke had to keep trying to get right in his face. Even then he tanked it like it was nothing until the very end due to Deus Ex Machina.
Also from like no more than 3m away Toguro says "he'll never hit me from this range" when Yusuke powers up the gun but doesn't use it.

If that doesn't suggest he's decently fast i don't know what does.


And yeah he definitely can knock people in to mountains he just doesn't do so...not to mention the fact they're on an island when they fight :rofl:

He gets launched all the way across it through a forest while being hit by the spirit gun and laughs it off.
And then hit by a suped up version in a stronger form and he doesn't even budge.

Dudes mad strong knocking people in to a mountain wouldn't be much to him, he can flick his fingers so hard to air pressure annihilates people, it even cuts Yusuke's forehead something a .50 cal sniper probably wouldn't do at the time.


If he can do that with a thumb flick obviously he can do more with a full on punch or kick.
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Yes he can easily knock people into mountains and create gaping craters. There's even a scene where one character punches the ground next to the crater he made to show the difference in their power by comparing crater sizes.

He can tank medium level blasts but he could easily dodge a city vaporising one due to his impressive speed. This guy makes a toy of King Picollo.
Even if he dodges the actual blast, I doubt his travel speed would allow him to outrun an explosion the size of a city.
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