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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 27 2015, 08:46 PM (6,034 Views) | |
| + Steve | Apr 29 2015, 08:58 PM Post #91 |
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It's kind of apparent that it's quite largely kids and young adults who hate cops from the internet, go to YouTube, Facebook or anywhere like that where incidents like this are talked about. Count how many people say "these cops are bastards" vs "all cops are bastards"/"all cops should die", or similar statements. Pro police info on the internet is incredibly dwarfed by negative police info. Doesn't really matter how many people in the place are pro police it's the ones that aren't causing this trouble. These kids want to break stuff but a lot of them think it's their destiny or some s*** to start a revolution "power to the people" is being flung around everywhere. Just because they're all in Baltimore doesn't mean they love the police you make the assumption that the younger generations are exactly the same as their parents. Even though quite clearly many of them have proved that wrong. Baltimore being pro police doesn't make a bit of difference when misinformation is at the fingertips of any rebellious teen or young adult, all over the internet. |
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| + QueenTD | Apr 29 2015, 09:24 PM Post #92 |
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I'm not assuming anything as you're not understanding. You're going by the internet. But criticize others for using the internet to base opinions on police? I live there. You don't. I know Baltimore. You don't. The Facebook and twitter posts can't 100% serious. I can say "Damn cops" too. The riot was highschool rebels finding an excuse to break laws. The younger generation night be more rebels but they're actually nice vocal peaceful people. The minority started the riot. But since you don't live in Baltimore and you're using the internet you wouldn't know. It's like me telling you how your house is ran. I can't because that's your area. This is my area. I know much more than a 4 second Google search told you While the riot was going on there was 2 maybe 3 peaceful protest. The riot made us look bad. But it pissed everyone in Baltimore off. Baltimore defended the police constantly. Even the kids. Google the line of love. We set up human shield to stop rioters. You're wrong. Just because you see it on internet. Doesn't mean it's true. Do you know what the Freddie Gray case even about? It's not about police brutality or racial issues. So why you keep bringing it up? It's about how the 6 police refused medical treatment for Freddie and how Freddie died. It's about how they did not get in trouble for their actions and only get suspended until things cool down. Edited by QueenTD, Apr 29 2015, 09:27 PM.
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| + Ginyu | Apr 29 2015, 09:29 PM Post #93 |
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Sounds like police brutality to me |
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| + QueenTD | Apr 29 2015, 09:41 PM Post #94 |
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Well does rough riding count as brutality? Steve said earlier that police brutality doesn't exist. I say it's more of unqualified policeman. Edited by QueenTD, Apr 29 2015, 09:48 PM.
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| + Steve | Apr 29 2015, 10:05 PM Post #95 |
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Why shouldn't they be criticized for looking at one side of the argument and believing whatever crap they read so long as it paints the police in a negative light? Do you also happen to know everyone that lives there? I kind of doubt it. You can say damn cops too but do violently incite hatred of them and try to make people go with what you say? Again, them being the minority doesn't matter because that's all the media cares about exactly the same as how they only care about the minority of cops who don't do their job properly. Minority or not they become the big issue either way and people get angry about it. Currently what you see from the media amounts to "people are rioting in Baltimore" "this is because police killed someone in custody" The media towards hating the police makes it sound like the rioting has a just cause which is getting other people on board, close minded people who already think all cops are bad because they read an article about what some cop did once and based the whole force on that. An ignorant army of teenagers and young adults is still a dangerous army, it's not like they only exist in Baltimore. The case isn't about that but that's what's happening on the internet. Do you really think there would be this much fuss if Freddie was white? It's already widely assumed cops are racist this is more "proof" for the close minded people who believe that. And it's still being investigated is it not? There's no word on if they'll get in trouble or not so the rioting is even more stupid. Not like they can just chuck them in jail without figuring who did what, can they? Also police brutality doesn't exist in the way people decide it does, it's made out like cops will just shoot anyone and everyone instantly and that people should fear the police. Sometimes cops get way too violent but that's blown up as though it happens every time someone is arrested, god help the situation if they're an ethnic minority because then it's a racial hate crime... Edited by Steve, Apr 29 2015, 10:07 PM.
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| Top_Cat | Apr 29 2015, 10:10 PM Post #96 |
 
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Are you saying that there have been minimal to no racial undertones in any of the polices actions in some American areas recently? And are you disputing the legitimacy of several media outlets on police brutality? Rioting is bad but so is murder. |
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| Hurry My Curry | Apr 29 2015, 10:25 PM Post #97 |
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Are there any statistics on cases of police brutality? |
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| Top_Cat | Apr 29 2015, 10:30 PM Post #98 |
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Yes, there are statistics, people keep statistics on everything. http://graphs.net/police-brutality-statistics.html There are citations at the bottom. |
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| + QueenTD | Apr 29 2015, 10:37 PM Post #99 |
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You're critical on people judging by the media/internet yet you're doing the same for Baltimore? Baltimore is very community city. You know of most people. Helps that I work at a hair salon. Second you can't judge everyone but Facebook and Twitter like you're doing. They cab easily lie or just be on bandwagon behind a computer. Baltimore media promotes positive cops in newspaper and local news. Im not sure what you're arguing. I'm telling you how it is in Baltimore compared to what you're really seeing on Twitter and Facebook. On Twitter and Facebook they actually promote the defense on Twitter besides a few bad eggs. Only anti police majority recently was Joseph Kental. |
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| Master Gohan | Apr 29 2015, 11:35 PM Post #100 |
 
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You're right! *Goes out and throws chairs at windows, tips over cars, steals from super markets, grabs new cool Nike shoes from store, throws rocks at police car windows, tips over another seven cars, lights CVS on fire, dance on burnt up CVS pile, throws chairs at more windows, cry about some kid named frederick blue or something, throw more chairs at windows, pretend I'm doing it for a cause, tip over another car, oddly feel good about myself at the end of it all* |
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| + Steve | Apr 30 2015, 12:14 AM Post #101 |
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There is no proof what so ever that any of it is to do with race. Just because a white cop shoots or beats down a black guy doesn't mean he's racist, ethnic minorities are capably of crime. People scream "brutality" over handcuffs hurting criminals wrists. Also as we discussed already it's a class thing not a race thing, these ethnic minorities that cops are supposedly racist towards come from ethnic high crime areas, it's not the cops or the inhabitants faults they're forced to live in s***ty areas but that's how it is. This is how it works in peoples minds. If there's a city with multiple districts and only one of them has any crime of any sort(unrealistic I know) and everyone in that district is an ethnic minority, meaning all the crime is from ethnic minorities. People would still call that racist. Are cops supposed to pretend most of the crime they deal with isn't to do with people from these areas?
Does it take a genius to see what's happening there? Yes they want to destroy stuff but there's no reason why they'd go attack cops if they didn't feel like it was something that had to be done, they could just focus on stealing but they've been fighting cops. People think this is some kind of revolution in the making, stupid people but yeah stupid people make stupid decisions. Again, whatever Baltimore says about cops doesn't matter unless you somehow censor the internet. It's shockingly easy to convince close minded fools they've been lied to, tell them a few stories about police cover ups and they'll think it happens where they live and get behind the idea that cops don't do anything good. The thing about bandwagons is if enough people have the balls to start something, other people get swept up in it. There's obviously going to be people to scared to go out and do it but well, clearly there's plenty that aren't. |
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| + QueenTD | Apr 30 2015, 01:21 AM Post #102 |
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Once again riots had nothing to do with Freddie or Police. That was the excuse. Interviews and tweets say it was originally a peaceful protest but...bad apples happened. Rest is history. Considering Baltimore got good history with cops despite bad crime rate. And the fact the majority respect the police with the younger people actually feeding/providing drinks to the police. Baltimore media works. No matter how you try and make it out as bad. Baltimore cares for police. Practice what you preach. Don't bash people for using media if you're going to do the same thing. Take it for someone who lives in Baltimore versus someone who doesn't. Update: https://mobile.twitter.com/search/?q=%23NYC2Baltimore&s=tren I don't what's this about. Anyone can inform me? http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/04/nonviolence-as-compliance/391640/ http://www.businessinsider.com/baltimore-protests-have-spread-to-new-york-2015-4 http://news.yahoo.com/baltimore-streets-once-rocked-riots-quiet-under-curfew-083304224.html Things seems to have calmed down happily. Friday is verdict day. Can be very scary day... |
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| * Sousen Ichimonji | Apr 30 2015, 08:42 AM Post #103 |
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“Last night we told you that the big loser in the Baltimore riots is the black community. Baltimore is in a tough spot economically and now with burned down buildings and wrecked business, the city’s future looks even bleaker. Tonight we’ll talk to folks from Baltimore about what’s really behind the city’s anger and how it can be resolved.” - Bill O'Reilly's website Even BIll O'Reilly and Fox News are aware that this is a symptom of institutional poverty and racism. Next person to say this is all media bulls*** ought to be warned for posting nonsense just for a +1 post count. You say that but we have a good few pages of you proving that to be wrong. Edited by Sousen Ichimonji, Apr 30 2015, 08:43 AM.
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| + QueenTD | Apr 30 2015, 02:41 PM Post #104 |
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My Dear Melancholy,
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Update: Someone who was riding on the other side of car said there was no rough riding. Police say the injuries were self inflicted but many disagree with it and you can tell when an injury is self inflicted. We'll see what doctors say. There's a Philly-Baltimore march. http://t.co/u3VpPTLFOa      https://mobile.twitter.com/search/?q=%23PhillyisBaltimore&s=tren Sadly I believe Fox said something. Because I saw this tweet around 3PM The protest in philly is being called a riot... It hasn't started yet. looks peaceful to me and most news station called it peaceful. Update(MAY 1ST): http://m.wbaltv.com/news/baltimore-officials-no-immediate-decision-in-gray-case/32659380 We know nothing about his death still. But the case been raised up to state attorney. So no.."verdict" today or news. Yay no more riots. Also 22 arrested in Philly due to protesting. Edited by QueenTD, May 1 2015, 12:36 PM.
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| + QueenTD | May 1 2015, 07:55 PM Post #105 |
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My Dear Melancholy,
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Huge update! 6 Baltimore Police Officers Charged in Freddie Gray Death BALTIMORE — Baltimore’s chief prosecutor charged six police officers on Friday with crimes including murder and manslaughter in the arrest and fatal injury of Freddie Gray, a striking and surprisingly swift turn in a case that has drawn national attention to police conduct. The state’s attorney for Baltimore, Marilyn J. Mosby, filed the charges almost as soon as she received a medical examiner’s report that ruled Mr. Gray’s death a homicide, and a day after the police concluded their initial investigation and handed over their findings. Officials had cautioned that it could take considerable time for her office to complete its own investigation and decide whether to prosecute. Five of the six officers are in custody, Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake said later. In a city rocked by unrest this week, and now under curfew and patrolled by National Guard troops, Ms. Mosby’s announcement on the steps of the War Memorial downtown drew cheers from the assembled crowd, while a cordon of officers in riot gear looked on stonily. As word spread, people in parts of the city took to the streets in celebration. The death of Mr. Gray brought to a boil long-simmering tensions between the police and poor neighborhoods in this majority-black city, culminating in rioting Monday, with more peaceful demonstrations continuing through the week. At the van’s next stop, Officer Goodson met the officers who made the initial arrest, and a sergeant who had arrived on the scene. Opening the van once again, they “observed Mr. Gray unresponsive on the floor of the wagon,” Ms. Mosby said. The sergeant, she said, spoke to the back of Mr. Gray’s head, but he did not respond. “She made no effort to look, to assess or the determine his condition,” Ms. Mosby said. When the van finally arrived at the Western District police station, and officers tried to remove him, “Mr. Gray was no longer breathing at all,” she said. A medic was summoned and found Mr. Gray in cardiac arrest. Then he was rushed to a hospital. Also for those calling Freddie a scumbag(which is highly disrespectful. You didn't even know the guy), he might had drug problems but actually he was pretty cool according to http://gawker.com/freddie-gray-was-not-a-riot-1701348180 According to those who knew him well, Freddie Gray was a funny, happy, outspoken, and well-liked guy whose life was cut short in the custody of the Baltimore Police last week. Gray was known as a jokester. Among his favorite phrases was “No, you!”, a comeback deployed against both insults and friendly chitchat. If you hadn’t seen Freddie in a while, said Shana Pinkett, a 28-year-old friend, “He would come into the projects, and you’d be like ‘Where you been at?’ and he’d be like, ‘No, you!’” with a smile on his face. In other words: forget about me, where have you been? “That’s how he would get under your skin,” added Pinkett, who grew up in Sandtown-Winchester, the West Baltimore neighborhood Gray called home, but now lives further north in Park Heights. She elaborated: “If you just moved [to the projects], you’d have to go through a bunch of guys and a bunch of females to get to really know them. You’ll be like, ‘Oh, I don’t like them’... because they joke. And most people can’t take a joke. But when you get to know them: ‘Oh, he cool. He cool like that.’ Freddie was one of them types.” If you wanted to be Freddie’s friend, you couldn’t take yourself too seriously. Freddie liked to dance. He was always smiling. If the ice cream truck came through his neighborhood, he would make sure it stopped, and if he had the money he’d buy the local kids a treat, Pinkett said. |
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