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Freddie Gray + Baltimore(MD) Rioting
Topic Started: Apr 27 2015, 08:46 PM (6,038 Views)
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Apr 28 2015, 02:46 AM
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Apr 28 2015, 02:33 AM
A revolution? Perhaps that could work if the rioters weren't busy burning down their own city and cultivating the image of blacks as gangsters
they're doing more than that if you bothered to look beyond manipulated news reports.
Can you give evidence of manipulated reports? There's tons of pictures from mainstream media and social media showing people burning down and looting. Looting the property of innocent bystanders is despicable and it's certainly not a course of action that people should take if they want "justice". They want justice and to get that they cause injustice to people with no involvement.

Also disgusting to say that it's understandable because the police don't listen and change their ways. You can't just punch someone in the street because your dad slapped you at home. You can't rob a store because your brother stole your wallet and reason won't get to him.

People protesting peacefully is no reason to not look people destroying the city. Not to mention seeing videos of people laugh and loot whatever they want from stores doesn't exactly help the case of them trying to get justice.

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Apr 28 2015, 03:04 AM
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Apr 28 2015, 02:33 AM
A revolution? Perhaps that could work if the rioters weren't busy burning down their own city and cultivating the image of blacks as gangsters
they're doing more than that if you bothered to look beyond manipulated news reports.
Can you give evidence of manipulated reports? There's tons of pictures from mainstream media and social media showing people burning down and looting. Looting the property of innocent bystanders is despicable and it's certainly not a course of action that people should take if they want "justice". They want justice and to get that they cause injustice to people with no involvement.

Also disgusting to say that it's understandable because the police don't listen and change their ways. You can't just punch someone in the street because your dad slapped you at home. You can't rob a store because your brother stole your wallet and reason won't get to him.

People protesting peacefully is no reason to not look people destroying the city. Not to mention seeing videos of people laugh and loot whatever they want from stores doesn't exactly help the case of them trying to get justice.
Cuz the media does it all the time. They'll show you one part and not the other. Happens a lot. Go online and talk to some people from that area and they could give you different reports than what the media shows you. Do you honestly believe they tell you 100% the truth?

And I didn't say the looting should be overlooked, did I? However, if you continue to treat people like animals don't get mad when they act like it.
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Apr 28 2015, 02:59 AM
Police brutality isn't a thing?

I love it how people can say this just because it doesn't affect them directly. Wake up

http://graphs.net/police-brutality-statistics.html
http://www.policemisconduct.net/statistics/

I suggest you become a more critical thinker and do more research. Just a couple of sites.

btw, the fact cops can murder people and get away with it doesn't help.

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Yes, I'm sure neither of those sites are biased.

I can find you a million sites about how the government poisons the water and kills everyone even though well look we're all alive, just because it's on the internet doesn't mean it's true.

Have you met a police officer? Did they immediately shoot you?
Probably not.


Most of these s***ty videos people take of police being "brutal" are a one sided argument the people taking videos are seeing it from one perspective only they don't know what the f*** is going on.

Like that one video where multiple cops were restraining a homeless guy, guy videoing it is far away and after the homeless guy gets shot he's all "WOAH THEY JUST SHOT HIM HE WAS ON THE GROUND AND YOU SHOT HIM"
Obviously didn't hear the cops screaming at him to let go of his gun.

Police "brutality" is almost never without reason people just like to twist it around because...I dunno criminals don't deserve to be shot? f*** if I know.


Also the only people it affects directly are criminals if they would just stop police wouldn't have to hurt their wrists by cuffing them and whatever else gets attributed to "brutality"

The people who need critical thinking are the ones who just go by whatever they see on the internet and the news.


Riddle me this.
When was the last time you seen a positive news article or whatever about police officers?
Does that mean they never do anything good?
No, it just provokes less of a reaction ergo the media don't report it.

Or have people not noticed 99% of what comes out of the medias a*** is negativity.
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Apr 28 2015, 02:33 AM
A revolution? Perhaps that could work if the rioters weren't busy burning down their own city and cultivating the image of blacks as gangsters
they're doing more than that if you bothered to look beyond manipulated news reports.
Can you give evidence of manipulated reports? There's tons of pictures from mainstream media and social media showing people burning down and looting. Looting the property of innocent bystanders is despicable and it's certainly not a course of action that people should take if they want "justice". They want justice and to get that they cause injustice to people with no involvement.

Also disgusting to say that it's understandable because the police don't listen and change their ways. You can't just punch someone in the street because your dad slapped you at home. You can't rob a store because your brother stole your wallet and reason won't get to him.

People protesting peacefully is no reason to not look people destroying the city. Not to mention seeing videos of people laugh and loot whatever they want from stores doesn't exactly help the case of them trying to get justice.
Cuz the media does it all the time. They'll show you one part and not the other. Happens a lot. Go online and talk to some people from that area and they could give you different reports than what the media shows you. Do you honestly believe they tell you 100% the truth?

And I didn't say the looting should be overlooked, did I? However, if you continue to treat people like animals don't get mad when they act like it.
Not always, that's ridiculous. Sometimes media bias does effect reporting. But in this case beyond reasonable doubt we know that idiots are burning down the city. We have something called the internet now where we can get pictures and videos to confirm what actually happens. No the media is not 100% truthful. But the point I made was do you have any evidence that the media is distorting this story in any shape or form? If you want you can get your information from social media pictures and videos too and you'll get the same narrative.

If I treat a human wrongly, I expect him to act the same towards me, not towards some stranger on the street.

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Apr 28 2015, 03:14 AM
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Police brutality isn't a thing?

I love it how people can say this just because it doesn't affect them directly. Wake up

http://graphs.net/police-brutality-statistics.html
http://www.policemisconduct.net/statistics/

I suggest you become a more critical thinker and do more research. Just a couple of sites.

btw, the fact cops can murder people and get away with it doesn't help.

Edit: Double post again. I'm sorry. Last time
Yes, I'm sure neither of those sites are biased.

I can find you a million sites about how the government poisons the water and kills everyone even though well look we're all alive, just because it's on the internet doesn't mean it's true.

Have you met a police officer? Did they immediately shoot you?
Probably not.


Most of these s***ty videos people take of police being "brutal" are a one sided argument the people taking videos are seeing it from one perspective only they don't know what the f*** is going on.

Like that one video where multiple cops were restraining a homeless guy, guy videoing it is far away and after the homeless guy gets shot he's all "WOAH THEY JUST SHOT HIM HE WAS ON THE GROUND AND YOU SHOT HIM"
Obviously didn't hear the cops screaming at him to let go of his gun.

Police "brutality" is almost never without reason people just like to twist it around because...I dunno criminals don't deserve to be shot? f*** if I know.


Also the only people it affects directly are criminals if they would just stop police wouldn't have to hurt their wrists by cuffing them and whatever else gets attributed to "brutality"

The people who need critical thinking are the ones who just go by whatever they see on the internet and the news.


Riddle me this.
When was the last time you seen a positive news article or whatever about police officers?
Does that mean they never do anything good?
No, it just provokes less of a reaction ergo the media don't report it.

Or have people not noticed 99% of what comes out of the medias a*** is negativity.
Once again you go on a nonsensical rambling trying to ignore a serious issue. At this point, you have to try really hard to act like police brutality doesn't exist or that the justice system isn't flawed. Perhaps the undertone of most of these cases makes you uncomfortable?

Whatever it is I suggest you do more research and stop ignoring the facts.


@Linx I'm not saying you have to ignore it. But put it into perspective. People can only be pushed so far before they lash out. Look at history. These people are not happy with their police force and their system. These riots just didn't happen spontaneous. This is built up anger from a people who feel suppressed by an unfair system. And this is a feeling that's sweeping across the nation. If the people with power don't start listening and reforms don't start happening that would do the American people even more injustice.
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Once again you go on a nonsensical rambling trying to ignore a serious issue. At this point, you have to try really hard to act like police brutality doesn't exist or that the justice system isn't flawed. Perhaps the undertone of most of these cases makes you uncomfortable?

Whatever it is I suggest you do more research and stop ignoring the facts.
I like how you're saying the media doesn't give us 100% of the truth...but everything negative they say about cops is true?

Okay then, I guess I'm the one ignoring facts here not believing what I want to believe.


The justice system is flawed, of course it is. Police officers can do bad things, of course they do.

Are they all murdering a*****? No.
Would the media have you believe otherwise? They certainly would.

Count these incidents vs how many cops there are just because 1% might do stupid things doesn't make the force brutal.


Sorry but information written on the internet by people who seek only to justify their hatred of something, is not reliable. These people don't have the full stories so their articles and s*** are worthless if they see that a cop shot a black guy they assume that the only reason was because he was black, not because he just stabbed his girlfriend and tried to run away.
It gets twisted in to being about black vs white every time or cop vs black, whatever.

People ignore others criminal actions just because the police shoot them or injure them, like that's supposed to make sense.

People will defend anyone if it's them vs cops look at this(particularly the comments)
graphic video, guy gets shot


People were defending that guy.
Who A) had a gun B) Threatened to kill his ex girlfriend at her wedding and was standing outside the church waiting C) Resisted arrest D) Stopped to pick up his gun after it fell out his pocket

So yeah don't you think that's a bit stupid? 'cause that's how pretty much all these things go.
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Some local people are starting to stand up to the rioters. This is awesome.

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Hopefully they don't get mistaken for rioters and gassed >_<

I wonder if for this kind of thing the National Guard should have badges or something for people to wear to show they're helping?

If it's an ethnic issue like this it's very positive that they themselves are fighting back against douchebags like this, proving to the world that the minorities aren't the criminal scum these rioters are all but shouting that they are.

Of course it's very dangerous but if people are willing to help why not?


It's certainly a more positive image than a bunch of white people coming in, mowing down all the coloured folk then driving away smoking cigars. If they clean up their own mess the world, the law, has no reason to look down on them.
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My Dear Melancholy,

Sadly ALL day the "anti rioters" been mistaken for rioters. Even a news reporter got pepper sprayed.

I find it weird that rival gangs who have history of killing each other are doing a peaceful protest while random citizens are going wild on their own city.

What's worse is that they're showing signs of an another riot Saturday from outside Maryland coming inside like Delaware, Flordia, and others.

Update
State of City address tomorrow
Police address daily
0 cops dead(Shocked)
0 cops missing (even more shocked)
22 cops hurt
5 cops unconscious
22 arrested (very low number)
5000 troops
5000 police
Marshall Law suggested(what's that)
Family of Freddie will speak out tomorrow
Info about Saturday potenoo riot
Baltimore city is basically fire mostly destroyed

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Pretty sure martial law is when the whole government process is shut down and the state is basically ran by one person, usually a military officer. This is of course only used in emergencies because decisions need to be made quickly and there is no time for votes and making decisions. An example is Julius Cesar in Rome. In times of war, he would take command of the government. When the war ended, he was supposed to give back his power. Didn't of course...

Imo, police brutality is completely overblown. Don't get me wrong. This guy did not deserve to die and the police officer who was responsible for his death should be tried in court. However, we are talking about a relatively small percentage of the police force. These are isolated instances that aren't indicative of the whole police force imo.

I also don't think that people are considering what policeman are going through. They have a high pressure job that requires quick decisions and using your instincts. It's life or death, and no matter how much training you undergo, you can't replicate being in a situation where you fear for yourselves and those around you.
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Apr 28 2015, 03:32 AM
Sorry but information written on the internet by people who seek only to justify their hatred of something, is not reliable.
But then again stuff that challenges or dismisses the (possibly justified) hatred of something is just as likely to be biased, especially if the subject of such hatred is an ingrained institution like the police. Bias always, ALWAYS works both ways on almost every issue.

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People ignore others criminal actions just because the police shoot them or injure them, like that's supposed to make sense.
Because people don't need to be shot to handle basic f***ing police situations. Police forces across the world with beat cops that aren't armed prove that day after day.
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Pretty sure martial law is when the whole government process is shut down and the state is basically ran by one person, usually a military officer. This is of course only used in emergencies because decisions need to be made quickly and there is no time for votes and making decisions. An example is Julius Cesar in Rome. In times of war, he would take command of the government. When the war ended, he was supposed to give back his power. Didn't of course...

Imo, police brutality is completely overblown. Don't get me wrong. This guy did not deserve to die and the police officer who was responsible for his death should be tried in court. However, we are talking about a relatively small percentage of the police force. These are isolated instances that aren't indicative of the whole police force imo.

I also don't think that people are considering what policeman are going through. They have a high pressure job that requires quick decisions and using your instincts. It's life or death, and no matter how much training you undergo, you can't replicate being in a situation where you fear for yourselves and those around you.
But then why don't we see the same situations in other western countries? Look at Europe for example, why don't we constantly see death reports there?
Don't get me wrong, but if police work really is based on intuition and your intuition tells you to shoot an unarmed person, your intuition is sh*t and you don't deserve to be a cop.

@The Queen TD: Is that picture supposed to show us how white people are being killed more than black people?
Because that would be a classic example of how statistics are misinterpreted.
The total kills of all those races add up to 1111. 414 / 1111 * 100 = ~37%. We all know that the percentage of white people is way above 37%, if anything, those statistics suggest the police actually is racist.

EDIT: Sorry, should've left the unreported race out for a fair calculation. It's still only ~50%. White people still make up ~80% of the total population.
If we look at black people it's 233 / 800 * 100 = ~29%. Though black people only make up ~13% of the population
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This been floating around Instagram...
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"into we get justice" XD.
That's not even a typo. The use of capital letters and small letters is also horrid.
I've always wondered how people can suck so much at their own language
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