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23rd WMAT Chiaotzu VS Full Power 22nd WMAT Roshi
Topic Started: Apr 20 2015, 07:50 PM (788 Views)
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They fight in an open field.
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Full Power? Are you talking about Buffed Roshi or with his full base strength?
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Animelover5487
Apr 20 2015, 08:01 PM
Full Power? Are you talking about Buffed Roshi or with his full base strength?
Let's have both situations.
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Wins against base since I believe Chaozu had surpassed Karin by this time. However, Buff Roshi wins.
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We don't have much information on 23rd Chiaotzu's power. He gets easily taken out by Cyborg Tao who was dominated by Tien soon afterwards. Yamcha and Krillin were prepared to step in against Tao though Krillin's comment about him using unscrupulous fighting tactics was implied to be the motive for their possible intervention.

Where do people rank 23rd tournament Yamcha? The only time Shen ever took him seriously was after the Sokidan. One hard strike against Yamcha had him quivering and backing up until falling out of the ring. He was still conscious afterwards, but you can tell in the following panel after Shen is declared the winner that he was suffering from intense pain. Three years ago, Kami was able to repel the same Goku who defeated Young King Piccolo with a casual finger flick. It doesn't tell us much besides Goku post-Ultra Divine Water and 23rd Yamcha being inferior to Kami.

Any level that Yamcha is at, Chiaotzu will be weaker. His telekinesis was powerful enough to restrain Goku during the 22nd tournament and the Crane Hermit trusted him to restrain both Goku and Tien so he could kill them. If Chiaotzu can hold down two fighters who were in the top league of the 22nd tournament then Roshi shouldn't be difficult to restrain. The only issue is Roshi psyching him out. In hand to hand, I can see Roshi having the advantage for the simple fact that he's disciplined to fight in close quarters unlike Chiaotzu who is a ki specialist.

Honestly, I might have to give it to Roshi still. He's got a whole arsenal of techniques that put his ki using abilities on-par with Chiaotzu's. If telekinesis is used, Roshi finds a way to confuse him. Chiaotzu's other main advantages are Bukujutsu and Dodonpa. But the latter is avoidable. Worse comes to worse, Thunder Shock Surprise is unleashed to take Chiaotzu out.
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Thiln
Apr 20 2015, 09:02 PM
We don't have much information on 23rd Chiaotzu's power.


We know that he along with the other humans trained on Karin's tower partway through the 3 years and then stopped. That to me implies that they all must have surpassed Karin who Goku didn't surpass until Post Old Piccolo.


Thiln
Apr 20 2015, 09:02 PM
Where do people rank 23rd tournament Yamcha?


He's under God Water Goku, as he held Weighted Goku's speed in high regard even though it wasn't much different than it was 3 years ago.

Thiln
Apr 20 2015, 09:02 PM
His telekinesis was powerful enough to restrain Goku during the 22nd tournament and the Crane Hermit trusted him to restrain both Goku and Tien so he could kill them.


Goku and Tien were distracted/focused on the match when Chaozu was restraining them.
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I can't really argue on the other points, but Chiaotzu was already exposed in helping Tien at some point in his fight with Goku when the Crane Hermit ordered him to restrain both fighters.
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Alright I just looked at the panel. It turns out you're correct about Chaozu being exposed.
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