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Uub God tier
Topic Started: Apr 20 2015, 04:14 AM (1,830 Views)
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So I think, as it crazy as it sounds, uub at eoz was god tier.

Goku struggling against uub even when he's as strong as he is in these new movies doesn't have to screw everything up.

As hard as it may be to believe maybe uub really is that strong? He's kid buu reincarnated. His potential is probably scary as hell. It's the same idea as Frieza

So is there any real counter argument to enraged uub being this strong?
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No problem from me. Considering how young Oob was, and that he was untrained, even being on any level of Boo is a pretty astounding feat. Especially for a human. He is technically human right? Stretching that power further to fit with BoG doesn't bother me at all.
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It could be the Uub is god tier, or could it be that Goku's base only ever goes up to Kid Buu level in the first place?
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Apr 20 2015, 04:14 AM
So I think, as it crazy as it sounds, uub at eoz was god tier.

Goku struggling against uub even when he's as strong as he is in these new movies doesn't have to screw everything up.

As hard as it may be to believe maybe uub really is that strong? He's kid buu reincarnated. His potential is probably scary as hell. It's the same idea as Frieza

So is there any real counter argument to enraged uub being this strong?
No way, goku was holding back all the time. Uub is kid buu at max


Besides....I just cant see RoF and BoG happened in the main universe. Its like a damn fine alternate reality

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I always had the impression that Uub's potential was on par with Kid Buu's. Maybe a bit higher since he would be introduced to all sorts of effective training methods that can push his body and mind to new heights. The Kaioken would be perfect for him since he doesn't have any transformations like the Saiyans do.
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Apr 20 2015, 12:06 PM
Ssj3vegito96
Apr 20 2015, 04:14 AM
So I think, as it crazy as it sounds, uub at eoz was god tier.

Goku struggling against uub even when he's as strong as he is in these new movies doesn't have to screw everything up.

As hard as it may be to believe maybe uub really is that strong? He's kid buu reincarnated. His potential is probably scary as hell. It's the same idea as Frieza

So is there any real counter argument to enraged uub being this strong?
No way, goku was holding back all the time. Uub is kid buu at max


Besides....I just cant see RoF and BoG happened in the main universe. Its like a damn fine alternate reality
He wasn't holding back though. Goku implied he would fight him at 100%
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Boo showed a great ability to adapt and a lot of fighting prowess, but nothing huge on the potential side of things. Most of the power that he had came from the people that he absorbed, and Goku never really commented on Pure Boo's potential. Oob was naturally strong like Freeza, but he wasn't trained at all, so we can't say his situation is like Freeza's in FnF.
Chapter: 518 (DBZ 324), P11.6-8
Goku: “He’s the one…While I’ve been training on my own, I’ve been waiting all this time for that kid to enter the tournament…[ ]…10 years ago, when that outrageously bad Majin Boo died, I made a wish…That this time, he be reborn as a good guy, so we could fight one-on-one…Apparently old man Enma Daio heard me, and pulled some strings on my behalf…”

Goku contradicts himself by saying that he's been training on his own, waiting for Oob to enter the tournament, while he's actually been training with Vegeta and Whis.

Chapter: 519 (DBZ 325), P12.2-5
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Goku: “Oh, I see. You still don’t even know how to fly, huh? …I guess there ain’t no helping it. You haven’t had no teacher, and you probably never even considered things like that. Sorry I bad-mouthed you before. Please forgive me. I just wanted to know your true ability. You’re exactly the person I thought you were. As amazin’ as I expected. But you don’t know how to use your power. This is the first time you’ve fought like this, right? I've got it! From now on I'll live with you at your house and teach you!”

He hasn't had any sort of training when it comes to ki, which is essential if you're going to get past a certain level of power.
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The new generation far surpasses the previous generation.

That is what we kept getting out of this story. When Goku is introduced, when Piccolo Jr. is introduced, when Gohan is introduced, Goten and Trunks, etc.

Who is to say Uub is merely limited to Kid Buu's power? Not buying it.
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I have a hard time believing Freeza's potential surpasses Boo's, when he's clearly made out to be the biggest baddy in the franchise, only surpassed by Beerus and Whis. I mean, Oob's power is naturally going to grow with age, and while he probably isn't god tier at this point, I don't think it's crazy for Goku to assume he passively reached that level with Boo's potential inside him. That being said, I'm not gonna be set in my ways regarding this subject at this point. The "God Arc" is not done being developed.
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It actually makes so much more sense for Goku to be so excited about Uub after witnessing what Frieza accomplished in mere months.
Edited by sekzee, Apr 20 2015, 04:20 PM.
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Apr 20 2015, 04:14 AM
So I think, as it crazy as it sounds, uub at eoz was god tier.

Goku struggling against uub even when he's as strong as he is in these new movies doesn't have to screw everything up.

As hard as it may be to believe maybe uub really is that strong? He's kid buu reincarnated. His potential is probably scary as hell. It's the same idea as Frieza

So is there any real counter argument to enraged uub being this strong?
No way, goku was holding back all the time. Uub is kid buu at max


Besides....I just cant see RoF and BoG happened in the main universe. Its like a damn fine alternate reality
He wasn't holding back though. Goku implied he would fight him at 100%
Than this proves that Rof and BoG cant happen before the manga EoZ

Nothing suggest or imply that uub was stronger than Kid Buu let alone Beerus
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The most obvious answer is going to be a giant retcon.

Maybe Whis pulls a Marty McFly or something
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Good Boo is still considered a top-tier at the end of DBZ, one that could possibly win the tournament.
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Apr 20 2015, 07:29 PM
The most obvious answer is going to be a giant retcon.

Maybe Whis pulls a Marty McFly or something
I've been fearing the same thing.

In the third movie Whis goes back and sets everything normal to fit EoZ. :T_T:
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You know what, I hope that is how this goes down. It's painfully obvious that Goku and Vegeta's Saiyan instincts prevent them from fighting how one should, in fact, outside of time being reversed. They dun f***ed up and got the Earth blown up. I imagine there's many more f*** ups to come.
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