If Vegeta and Goku went into the chamber together

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If Vegeta and Goku went into the chamber together
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Decibel	Apr 10 2015, 11:38 AM Post #1
Posts: 206 Group: Member Member #11,534 Joined: July 20, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime dbz, Hunter X hunter, yuyu hakusho, claymore	Instead of going in with their sonsthey decide to go in together. While they're at their most equal. For two days straight. What kind of progress do they make? Do they train on their own? Do they fight and try to kill each other for the entire time? Do they end up weaker, stronger, or somewhere in between their cell game powers? Edited by Decibel, Apr 10 2015, 11:39 AM.



~~Professor Gohan~~	Apr 10 2015, 01:08 PM Post #2
Posts: 0 Group: GTFO Member #6,938 Joined: November 2, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Their training would have been more successful in my opinion. They know each other well.



Darker	Apr 10 2015, 01:27 PM Post #3
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,357 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	The title made me think of Yaoi for some reason I don't approve it but I find it hilarious and cute. On-Topic: Given that now both Goku and Vegeta don't have to worry about Trunks or Gohan they would most likely become stronger. However Goku wanted Gohan to defeat Cell, so that he would become Earth's future defender, so I doubt he would ever go with Vegeta. He just wanted to see Cell's true potential (since he probably knew that Vegeta would let Cell absorb #18) so that he would know how to fight a new threat bigger than Freeza, who was already Goku's most personal foe, but Cell surpassed that as he was all the Z-Fighters' personal foe.
	Piccolo: Just how many people have you sacrificed?! Cell: Sacrifice? Hmph, rubbish! On the contrary, it is an honor to become a fraction of my power.


Norc Groose	Apr 10 2015, 02:52 PM Post #4
Posts: 208 Group: Member Member #11,840 Joined: November 18, 2014 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z/Yu Yu Hakusho Favourite Manga Beserk	Implying this takes place in Cell Saga: Goku ends up a bit weaker or a bit stronger depending since he won't be training with Vegeta at all. Vegeta will end up the same amount of strength as in canon. At this point in time, this would be nearly a fight to the death for the two so a fight is not optional.



DBZAOTA482	Apr 10 2015, 03:00 PM Post #5
Posts: 1,798 Group: Member Member #5,093 Joined: August 2, 2010 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball/Z, One Piece, Akira, School Rumble, Detective Conan. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome, Internet Explorer.	Goku and Vegeta would like nearly equal (either one can be stronger than the other) but since they wouldn't really train together their gains would only be enough to beat Semi-Perfect Cell. Edited by DBZAOTA482, Apr 10 2015, 03:05 PM.



Billa	Apr 10 2015, 06:04 PM Post #6
Thala na Gethu! Posts: 4,218 Group: Member Member #7,273 Joined: February 3, 2012 Favourite Anime Nothin What Browser do you use? Nothin Favourite Manga Nothin	Goku was wasting his time inside HTC with his brat. At least anime fillers showed some cool scenes of both sparring, while manga had none. It was just Goku pushing his annoying brat to becme SSJ & noticing flaws of ASSJ & USSJ. Zero gain for Goku At least Veggie would provide the right "surpassing the rival mode". I'd say both Goku & Veggie would've improved tremendously compares to their CG counterparts. Heck, Goku couldve even unlocked SSJ2...



+ Ssj3vegito96	Apr 10 2015, 06:23 PM Post #7
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	@Darker oh god no. Why would you post that??
	IT'S CHEESE Spoiler: click to toggle Top 7 favorite dbz heroes: 1. Sometimes it goku sometimes it's vegeta 2. ^ 3. Teen gohan 4. Future trunks 5. Piccolo 6. Adult gohan 7. Bardock


Slifer	Apr 10 2015, 06:24 PM Post #8
Posts: 3,488 Group: Member Member #10,141 Joined: September 7, 2013	If Vegeta trains alone, he likely ends up the same as he originally did. Goku wouldn't have anyone to train with so he comes out weaker. If Vegeta is willing to train with Goku, they might reach their Boo-Arc levels of strength (MSSJ). Finding SSJ2 is a toss-up.



Decibel	Apr 10 2015, 06:55 PM Post #9
Posts: 206 Group: Member Member #11,534 Joined: July 20, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime dbz, Hunter X hunter, yuyu hakusho, claymore	That comic is too funny. It seems Vegeta would have to be stronger even if they were training separately just because he'd be able to compare and adjust to what goku was doing differently. However I don't know if Goku gets as strong without a partner. If they do train together, are they just beating each other senselessly everyday? Do they come out stronger without even mastering their super saiyan forms?



FutureSaiyan	Apr 10 2015, 10:21 PM Post #10
Posts: 924 Group: Member Member #11,997 Joined: January 18, 2015 Gender Male Country Australia Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Naruto, Bleach, AoT, Death Note, FMAB Favourite Manga DBZ	if they actually trained Together for the entire two years I see them both near of at FP PC.



Amerson26	Apr 10 2015, 10:39 PM Post #11
Posts: 1,872 Group: Member Member #12,191 Joined: March 29, 2015 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime dragon ball z What Browser do you use? dragon ball z Favourite Manga dragon ball z	after they do they traing for the the day they probably fight 1v1 everyday. and am pretty sure vegeta won't pass this 1v1 up. and they fight would be close to death every time which mean they would get so many zenkai boost in a year. now when he was trained with gohan he probably barley got any zenkai boost. If any thing gohan got the real zenkai boost beac he got beat down near death everytime when goku still able to stand. now if this was vegeta it would be so much different because they both already ssj. they both would go 1vs1. and push pass each other limited.



cone	Apr 11 2015, 10:18 AM Post #12
Posts: 119 Group: Member Member #12,103 Joined: March 3, 2015 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime dragon ball z What Browser do you use? firefox Favourite Manga naruto	either this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uE-ygMB7KY or this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpcAVWOZ7MM



Xfing	Apr 12 2015, 06:34 PM Post #13
Posts: 817 Group: Member Member #5,616 Joined: January 11, 2011	I think Vegeta would've gotten much more out of that training. - Goku knows that good periods of rests are essential to get better yields from training. He would enforce that on Vegeta as he wouldn't let Vegeta impose his own regimen. Vegeta would probably follow Goku on this as he knows training with someone is better than doing it alone. Therefore Vegeta's training would be more efficient than his murderous training with not enough rest was. - Goku would likely arrive at the same conclusion regarding Super Saiyan, so Vegeta would also waste no time copying it and becoming a FPSSj, which would give him access to much greater, easier maintained power sooner. Not to mention training starts going faster when you master SSj, according to the Daiz, which would explain Goku and Gohan's huge gap over Vegeta and Trunks 1st-post. I'd say if Vegeta did everything Goku's way he could have emerged a FPSSj at 80-100% Goku's power after just one visit, along with Goku. To compare, in the actual series he only got to around 70% Goku's power at FPSSj and only after his second visit. Two years though? I'd say both would be at about 150-170% of FPSSj Gohan after that. As Goku noticed, the gains start rapidly diminishing once your body is too exhausted, and the RoSaT is unfortunately very conducive to that. Vegeta disregarded it, which is why his gains were so slow. Edited by Xfing, Apr 12 2015, 06:36 PM.



Hearts	Apr 12 2015, 07:57 PM Post #14
Posts: 1,173 Group: Member Member #10,454 Joined: November 6, 2013	Xfing Apr 12 2015, 06:34 PM I'd say if Vegeta did everything Goku's way he could have emerged a FPSSj at 80-100% Goku's power after just one visit, along with Goku. To compare, in the actual series he only got to around 70% Goku's power at FPSSj and only after his second visit. Two years though? I'd say both would be at about 150-170% of FPSSj Gohan after that. As Goku noticed, the gains start rapidly diminishing once your body is too exhausted, and the RoSaT is unfortunately very conducive to that. Vegeta disregarded it, which is why his gains were so slow. I dont think Vegeta would let himself fall so far back to be 80% of Gokus power when they are training together, I would give them maybe a 5% difference at most and both of them would be close to rivaling Perfect Cell, maybe fall a bit short.



Xfing	Apr 13 2015, 01:26 PM Post #15
Posts: 817 Group: Member Member #5,616 Joined: January 11, 2011	Hearts Apr 12 2015, 07:57 PM Xfing Apr 12 2015, 06:34 PM I'd say if Vegeta did everything Goku's way he could have emerged a FPSSj at 80-100% Goku's power after just one visit, along with Goku. To compare, in the actual series he only got to around 70% Goku's power at FPSSj and only after his second visit. Two years though? I'd say both would be at about 150-170% of FPSSj Gohan after that. As Goku noticed, the gains start rapidly diminishing once your body is too exhausted, and the RoSaT is unfortunately very conducive to that. Vegeta disregarded it, which is why his gains were so slow. I dont think Vegeta would let himself fall so far back to be 80% of Gokus power when they are training together, I would give them maybe a 5% difference at most and both of them would be close to rivaling Perfect Cell, maybe fall a bit short. That of course depends what your figure for FP Perfect Cell is. For some it's not so much more than the level he fought Goku at. For guys like LegendarySSj7 it's something like 14,000,000,000 for Cell as he was against Goku and 45,000,000,000 for FP. There's not much to really seal this either way.



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