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Why does Nintendo get a free pass all the time?
Topic Started: Apr 4 2015, 11:50 PM (3,233 Views)
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Apr 7 2015, 12:56 AM
Fatal Frame 4 and 5, Resident Evil Zero,the remake of the first game and Resident Evil 4. The Metroid Prime games, Monster Hunter Tri and Monster Hunter 4, Eternal Darkness, Conker's Bad Fur Day, The Dragon Quest series, Fire Emblem, Advance Wars, James Bond: Golden Eye, the first six Final Fantasy games, Etrian Odyssey, Xenoblade Chronicles, The Donkey Kong games, Dragonball Z: Hyper Dimension, Dragonball Z: Attack of the Saiyans, The Legacy of Goku series, The Golden Sun series, Ace Attorney and Chrono Trigger.

I stopped because this list was going to get too big.

Sorry I meant exclusives.

RE4 is not exclusive since it was also ported to PS2 and PC.

Not really a big fan of Japanese rpg, but Final Fantasy was on PS and PS2 as well.

In the last generation, I had all three consoles, the only games I played on the Wii is Wii Sports and Super Mario Galaxy.

Nintendo doesn't seem to have mature adult games like Witcher, Dark Souls, Half-Life.

The other games, I have no idea.



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It has plenty. You're just not educated about them. Like you said, you have no idea about the other games. Most of the games in my list are not considered children's games or casual.

I'm really looking forward to Fatal Frame Five.


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I don't really see why Nintendo needs mature games. They've got plenty without it, though they've had quite a few/have a few coming up, namely;

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Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward
Resident Evil: Revelations
Bayonetta 2
Madworld
Devil's Third
Fatal Frame V
Zombi U
Ju-On: The Grudge
Resident Evil: The Umbrella Chronicles
Resident Evil: The Darkside Chronicles
Silent Hill: Shattered Memories
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And those are only the M-rated ones.
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There's nothing really "mature" about mature games. It allows for blood and swearing, basically...

Also how did so many Nintendo games get listed but the 2nd most popular franchise of all time was left out?
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There's nothing really "mature" about mature games. It allows for blood and swearing, basically...


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You're just not educated about them. Like you said, you have no idea about the other games. Most of the games in my list are not considered children's games or casual.


The Witcher series, Mass Effect 2, Half-Life 2, Portal 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4 and 5.

Games that allow the players to determine the fate of civilization inside the game, allow the players to make adult decisions and have some sort of consequences and allow them to use their brains and not just games flying around jumping from cannon balls to stars.

I'm take a shot at Mario Bros, but even after watching the reviews from GameSpot or watch people play Zelda or Metroid on YouTube, majority of the Wii games don't interest me.

The graphics and story are target for the general public [kids] hence their rating system for Mario Bros, Zelda.


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You're just spouting ignorance now. As if Nintendo games don't do any of that. Did you ever play Eternal Darkness? That s*** was tight.


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You're just spouting ignorance now.


Maybe I am, but are you sure you're not a fan boy?

[not all of them] but majority of Nintendo's flagship franchises are target towards kids. No swearing, no blood. If you're a 7 - 12 years old, those games are fine, but once you reach 18, I'd rather be playing The Last of Us, Silent Hill 2, MGS4, Mass Effect 2 and Half-Life 2, Portal 2.

It's unfortunate I never got the chance to play Fatal Frame or Eternal Darkness, but are you really comparing those games to Portal 2, Half-Life 2 or BioShock?

Mario Bros (Super Bros 1-3, Super Galaxy), Zelda, Metroid Prime, Pokémon, have "T" rating. = teens.

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As if Nintendo games don't do any of that. Did you ever play Eternal Darkness? That s*** was tight.


Have you played Witcher 2 or Portal 2 or The Last of Us or even BioShock 1 or infinite?

BioShock makes you think about a lot of s***.


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I really don't understand what's so wrong about Nintendo asking for a portion of the earnings made from playing their games.
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People see this guy and they give them "a free pass."

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I really don't understand what's so wrong about Nintendo asking for a portion of the earnings made from playing their games.
They do. Let's Plays are great advertising. I personally have made several purchases after watching a let's play.

Furthermore, they didn't create the videos. The ones who upload it take the time to play it, edit the video and add commentary to it. That's what the real content is.
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I agree with Pel. Eternal Darkness was gr8. Scary as hell from what I've played of it. Haven't played it in a while tho.

As for this thread, I'd argue Nintendo gets the most s*** thrown at them simply because they ain't winning the console wars and because their games don't always include guns and blood.

I don't always agree with Nintendo. The "Wii" name, as well as the "New" 3DS, are terrible names, and they also don't do a good enough job advertising the Wii U, at least not here in Australia. Seen a lot of 3DS adds in 2013-2014, but not once have I ever seen a Wii U add down here. Now, compare that to the Xbox One. Every second advertisement on every channel was an Xbox One advertisement, and if memory serves correct, the X1 had the most successful Australian launch of ANY console.


No doubt they do stupid s***, and they ain't immune from criticism as you seem to think, but hey, at least they make good games, and Nintendo fans don't have to b*** constantly about buggy games. ^_^
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I really don't understand what's so wrong about Nintendo asking for a portion of the earnings made from playing their games.
They do. Let's Plays are great advertising. I personally have made several purchases after watching a let's play.

Furthermore, they didn't create the videos. The ones who upload it take the time to play it, edit the video and add commentary to it. That's what the real content is.
That is a portion of the content built around the game they're playing. If the game itself didn't matter, then no one would care about what Nintendo was asking for, and they'd be playing less relevant games.

Let's plays can be positive advertising... they can be negative too... but they're also a way for people to experience game content without ever purchasing the game... which can be a major hit to sales.

They're not even demanding people stop doing such things... they just want a portion of the money that's being made off of their games.
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Let's plays can be positive advertising... they can be negative too... but they're also a way for people to experience game content without ever purchasing the game... which can be a major hit to sales.
Well, you know what they say about publicity.

I don't believe that watching a game is the same as actually playing it; it's not a real experience. The only genre that might be true for is adventure games and the like. Certainly all of Nintendo's games are an interactive experience that can't fully experience without playing it yourself.

I don't think a cut is fair, but for those making money off of it, a licensing fee may be appropriate. Besides, if Nintendo didn't want their games used that way, they should have had the foresight to include something about it in EULA.
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Let's plays can be positive advertising... they can be negative too... but they're also a way for people to experience game content without ever purchasing the game... which can be a major hit to sales.
Well, you know what they say about publicity.
I do... and I don't necessarily agree with it.

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Apr 7 2015, 07:10 AM
I don't believe that watching a game is the same as actually playing it; it's not a real experience. The only genre that might be true for is adventure games and the like. Certainly all of Nintendo's games are an interactive experience that can't fully experience without playing it yourself.
Oh yea, of course... for most people that would be the case. But for some, experiencing the story being told is all they're after... and why would those people need to pay a cent when they can simply watch it on YouTube?

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I don't think a cut is fair, but for those making money off of it, a licensing fee may be appropriate. Besides, if Nintendo didn't want their games used that way, they should have had the foresight to include something about it in EULA.
Yea, it does seem like some sort of a silly fix for an oversight on their part.

I do like the licensing suggestion... though I couldn't see it working at this point in the game.
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I don't get the "Nintendo needs to grow up" sentiment, to be fair. Nintendo may have introduced you to gaming through Mario 64 or Pokemon Red or whatever, but just because you grew up doesn't mean that Nintendo should change their target. Allow children to experience all the cool, fun stuff you did.
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