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Revival of F destroying dragon ball
Topic Started: Apr 1 2015, 04:26 PM (13,572 Views)
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Toriyama didn't write Battle of Gods / Revival of F, he just came in and changed some stuff and edited some parts.
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Raiken
Apr 3 2015, 04:25 PM
Toriyama didn't write Battle of Gods / Revival of F, he just came in and changed some stuff and edited some parts.
He said multiple times that he rewrote the entire battle of gods movie unlike the original 13 movies that he barely had a part in. And resurrection F was written by him
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Apr 3 2015, 04:25 PM
Toriyama didn't write Battle of Gods / Revival of F, he just came in and changed some stuff and edited some parts.
Pretty sure at the start of the movie in big old letters it says written by akira toriyama
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Raiken
Apr 3 2015, 04:25 PM
Toriyama didn't write Battle of Gods / Revival of F, he just came in and changed some stuff and edited some parts.
AT did write revival of F and even said it was his best work yet and was even praised by his editor by it so it is cannon even though personally I don't want it to be but it is.
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Apr 1 2015, 10:18 PM
People deciding what's canon and what's not lol
People have the right to consider things in whatever way they want, even if you or I, or anyone else doesn't agree. That's the beauty of an OPINION.

I've got my issues with this new DBZ as well. For those of us that have wanted new DBZ from Akira himself. What we've got so far from him is what is making it possible for him to put anything new out to begin with. I'm sure without the help he's had, Akira could have still done this because the interest in DBZ is still massive. When I watched BoG. I was flipping off my TV at plenty of things I did not like at all. But I was still grateful to get more from my favorite childhood anime. It was a wish made reality.

I don't agree that these movies are ruining DBZ. Two movies will not, and cannot ruin everything that happened before it just because one person thinks it can. That is only true in that one persons own mind and to whoever agrees, and I mean no disrespect by that. I wish Akira told everyone involved in this that these movies will go the way he sees fit. But obviously he valued their input or couldn't just dismiss any outside ideas from those people if he wanted to see these movies happen, so then he sacrificed or met on compromises.

When you really think about it though. It was like this from the very beginning. Do any of you think Akira didn't work with people when he was working on Dragon Ball, or when he first got the idea for Dragon Ball Z? So the circumstances aren't any different when you think about it with how these two movies came to be, and the possible third and fourth, or plausible continuation of the series through episodes.

Not ruining DBZ, these movies are not.

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Personally, I would say that the new movies are destroying DBZ in terms of established attributes of the characters.But, from an objective point of view I would say that the new movies are taking DBZ in some new direction, rather than destroying DBZ.Whether this new direction will result in postive effect or a negative effect is yet to be seen and to early to forecast.
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Apr 1 2015, 04:26 PM
Revival of F so far sounds worse than a toei movie

Reason 1 Goku and Vegeta and Frieza hit a level were they can one shot GT characters

Reason 2 gohan is a super Saiyan and dresses up like a nerd

Reason 3 bulla is not born even though she was in end of z
Reason 4 super Saiyan goku and Vegeta have blue hair instead of yellow win though in end of Z Goku had yellow hair as a Super Saiyan
Reason 5 gohans having the greatest not fused potential is basically retconned as revival of is Vegeta > Frieza > Goku >>>>>>>>>>>>> gohan.

Reason 6 it only took Frieza a little,bit of training to reach a level of Gods which sounds absurd
First of all, saying Revival of F is worst than what it technically is, makes little to no sense. Not trying to be rude, but it IS a Toei movie. :P

1. To be fair, Toriyama stated these movies are more of a continuation of the manga, filling in the gap between Kid Buu and EoZ. GT is what he considers to be a "Side Story" and what most consider to only be canon to the anime.
2. I don't really see how Gohan chose to dress can ruin this movie. Nor do I see how him transforming into a Super Saiyan is a bad thing either. Chances are he isn't as strong as he was when fighting Buu in his base form in the Fusion Saga, so transforming is likely to give him at least a little boost.
3. Bra is younger than pan. The movie is likely to take place in Age 779, while Bra was born in Age 780.
4. If you've read any of the spoilers you'd know why they don't have yellow hair. And EoZ Goku never went Super Saiyan so there's no real argument here.
5. Well, Gohan more than likely stopped training after Buu, and Vegeta and Goku gained godly power, so they're bound to be stronger than him at this point.
6. Freeza was already quite strong as it was. Freeza had never trained before, as he had no reason to. If he hadn't have trained before invading Earth, Goku and Vegeta could have easily taken him down. But he instead chose to train for the amount of time he did, as he knew that he could increase his power immensely. And that's exactly what happened.
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Don't really care if it's "destroying" DB in terms of the reasons the OP listed. The premise seems interesting enough and I'm looking forward to watching/reading it when I get the chance.


And yes BOG and this movie is canon. IIRC Toriyama admitted that they take place between Buu Saga and EoZ.
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AT said the movie will be serialization of the manga and of course sequel of BoG as well. Just shut your mouth if you don't agree with the author.
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Apr 5 2015, 08:13 AM
Just shut your mouth if you don't agree with the author.
That's not very nice. People have opinions just like AT and should be able to disagree.
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i dont see any problems with the revival of f movie. its expanding the series which really wasnt going anywhere otherwise. were getting new games with new ideas people have wanted. questions people had about the series are getting answered and more plot holes then ever are being generated. its literally everything people have wanted for decades. if the creator wants a new part of the story to be an offical part of the story then cool. its his story he does have the final say on the matter.
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No, i don't think it destroyed Dragonball in any way. In the contrary i think BOG gives the series an even better taste and Revival of F seems to have great action which is what i like the most in Dragonball.

And if someone has a big problem with those movies then just consider it non-cannon and keep enjoying the action.
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I dont see what makes it non canon even though it has so many plots.
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I don't think it is. You just gotta appreciate what's given to ya. Take it for what it is. That's how I feel anyway. That's because we wouldn't know better if original Z started like that. I'm at the point where I try and like and respect his latest stuff as much as I can.
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I just hate how it's completely Goku / Vegeta themed.

In the Freiza Arc, we had:

Goku / Vegeta / Piccolo

In the Cell Arc, we had:

Goku / Vegeta / Piccolo / Future Trunks / Gohan

All having main roles at different points throughout the Arc.

In the Buu Arc, we had:

Goku / Gohan / Gotenks(Trunks/Goten) / Vegeta

In Battle of Gods and Revival of F, we have:

Goku / Vegeta

I mean really.... it's just making these movies so boring and cliché.
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