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Revival of F destroying dragon ball
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+ Clearin	Apr 1 2015, 10:50 PM Post #16
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	Super Saiyan 4 Vegito Apr 1 2015, 04:26 PM Reason 4 super Saiyan goku and Vegeta have blue hair instead of yellow win though in end of Z Goku had yellow hair as a Super Saiyan Goku never turned Super Saiyan after he killed Boo.



+ Solid Snake	Apr 1 2015, 10:51 PM Post #17
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Given that Toriyama said the newest film is being as if it's in the canon manga, makes the latest two movies canon, regardless if you think things fit or not. Personal preferences don't overrule what the author establishes as part of the manga. So you selected few can decide "it's not canon", but the majority of people will have no say so over Toriyama's word, and accept that fact.
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+ Pyrus	Apr 1 2015, 10:51 PM Post #18
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	I'm a huge fan of Goku so these movies are definitely canon to me.
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Mihawk	Apr 1 2015, 10:52 PM Post #19
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	AT didn't say it was canon. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't even know what canon means.



FutureProtagonist	Apr 1 2015, 10:53 PM Post #20
Quwrof Wrlccywrlir Posts: 2,545 Group: Member Member #11,890 Joined: December 5, 2014 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Soul Eater	The point is, if we're disavowing the canonicity of Battle of Gods based on the fact that the story was influenced by someone else, then the Cell Arc should also be non-canon. Toriyama basically re-wrote the entire script for Battle of Gods; everything that exists in Battle of Gods is either original content or content that Toriyama deemed good enough to coexist with his own ideas. I can't see anything about it that's non-canon. If I were to argue against Battle of Gods's canonicity, it would be predicated on the art and animation being drawn by someone else. Only what's in the script is canon. But that's being very picky. Edited by FutureProtagonist, Apr 1 2015, 10:55 PM.
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Apr 1 2015, 10:54 PM Post #21
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	King Kakarot Apr 1 2015, 10:18 PM People deciding what's canon and what's not lol Toei nor Toriyama have themselves so we sorta have to. I think it's easier to assume everything is canon under the multiverse theory, but not everyone has to accept that. Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, Apr 1 2015, 10:54 PM.
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Vertical	Apr 1 2015, 11:42 PM Post #22
Posts: 2,542 Group: Member Member #8,475 Joined: October 27, 2012	FutureProtagonist Apr 1 2015, 10:46 PM Vertical Apr 1 2015, 10:39 PM Unless you're implying the whole "He intended to end it at Freeza!"... which is simply false. I mean the part where his editor didn't want #19 and #20 to be the main villains. As far as I remember, he wasn't his editor at the time... which is why I said "friend/former colleague". BoG's a different kettle of fish. It wasn't Toriyama having an idea and then someone suggesting something different... it was someone else having an idea and Toriyama editing it.
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+ Kaboom	Apr 2 2015, 12:42 AM Post #23
Posts: 1,927 Group: Elite Member Member #9,984 Joined: August 24, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Punch Man	If much worse things like GT, Evolution or the craptastic old English dubs didn't "ruin" Dragon Ball, then Resurrection F sure as heck won't ruin it either.



+ QueenTD	Apr 2 2015, 03:05 AM Post #24
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SSJ	Apr 2 2015, 03:07 AM Post #25
Posts: 16,377 Group: General Member #8,258 Joined: September 8, 2012 Gender Female Country Sweden Favourite Anime Psycho Pass, Steins;Gate, Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood Favourite Manga One Piece, Berserk, Rurouni Kenshin, Gantz	Kaboom Apr 2 2015, 12:42 AM If much worse things like GT, Evolution or the craptastic old English dubs didn't "ruin" Dragon Ball, then Resurrection F sure as heck won't ruin it either. In fairness Toriyama had minor involvement in any of those.



Super Saiyan 4 Vegito	Apr 2 2015, 03:34 AM Post #26
Posts: 189 Group: Member Member #11,977 Joined: January 9, 2015 Gender Male	Kaboom Apr 2 2015, 12:42 AM If much worse things like GT, Evolution or the craptastic old English dubs didn't "ruin" Dragon Ball, then Resurrection F sure as heck won't ruin it either. Those things were all toei related but when than creator does that and thinks it's his best work is when you know a franchise is dieing.



Ben	Apr 2 2015, 05:08 AM Post #27
Posts: 564 Group: Donator Member #10,230 Joined: September 20, 2013 Gender Not Specified What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Vertical Apr 1 2015, 10:39 PM Unless you're implying the whole "He intended to end it at Freeza!"... which is simply false. I still subscribe to that theory, though I wouldn't word it like that. It seems to me that he was setting up a possible conclusion to the series (that I think would have been the best possible one after the way he handled the Buu saga) with Freeza. If it stops there (which I'm glad it didn't, because I love the Androids/Cell), Goku is obviously the LSSJ and there are no real loose ends. I wouldn't say he intended it, but he was allowing himself a really well developed "out" in case he did end up succumbing to his burnout. MrE of the old PlanetNamek.com had a pretty good essay on it where he broke down the LSSJ storyline and how it seemed to be setting up an ending, I still tend to lean in that direction myself. Edited by Ben, Apr 2 2015, 05:18 AM.



Xfing	Apr 2 2015, 12:27 PM Post #28
Posts: 817 Group: Member Member #5,616 Joined: January 11, 2011	Super Saiyan 4 Vegito Apr 1 2015, 04:26 PM Revival of F so far sounds worse than a toei movie Reason 1 Goku and Vegeta and Frieza hit a level were they can one shot GT characters Reason 2 gohan is a super Saiyan and dresses up like a nerd Reason 3 bulla is not born even though she was in end of z Reason 4 super Saiyan goku and Vegeta have blue hair instead of yellow win though in end of Z Goku had yellow hair as a Super Saiyan Reason 5 gohans having the greatest not fused potential is basically retconned as revival of is Vegeta > Frieza > Goku >>>>>>>>>>>>> gohan. Reason 6 it only took Frieza a little,bit of training to reach a level of Gods which sounds absurd 1. GT is not canon anyway and it sucks buttocks, so I have no idea why you care. 2. We'll get an explanation for the first thing, and how Super Saiyan affects his power. 3. Give her time 4. Goku never went SSj in the EOZ arc 5. Gohan never acquired the god power, who knows what would happen if he did. 6. Well it might be absurd, but it's gotta restore Freeza's respect. Remember how he was cherished as a villain back in the day? I would add another notable development, even though I don't really think they "ruin" Dragonball: 7. Whis saying Vegeta can't catch up to Goku precisely because he trains too hard and doesn't rest his body, which is why he can't reach his full power.



Mihawk	Apr 2 2015, 10:20 PM Post #29
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	FutureProtagonist Apr 1 2015, 10:53 PM The point is, if we're disavowing the canonicity of Battle of Gods based on the fact that the story was influenced by someone else, then the Cell Arc should also be non-canon. Toriyama basically re-wrote the entire script for Battle of Gods; everything that exists in Battle of Gods is either original content or content that Toriyama deemed good enough to coexist with his own ideas. I can't see anything about it that's non-canon. If I were to argue against Battle of Gods's canonicity, it would be predicated on the art and animation being drawn by someone else. Only what's in the script is canon. But that's being very picky. I personally don't disavow it based on that. I don't consider it canon to the manga because it isn't a manga. There are people in the starwars fanbase that don't consider things outside the original movies to be canon, even when endorsed by the original writers.



sekzee	Apr 2 2015, 10:26 PM Post #30
Posts: 1,336 Group: Member Member #11,101 Joined: March 25, 2014 Gender Not Specified What Browser do you use? Firefaux Favourite Manga Nein	Fiat Lux Apr 2 2015, 10:20 PM I personally don't disavow it based on that. I don't consider it canon to the manga because it isn't a manga. facepalm Is this real lyfe? Edited by sekzee, Apr 2 2015, 10:27 PM.



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