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Could Vegito be stronger then SSJ4
Topic Started: Mar 25 2015, 01:52 AM (3,480 Views)
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Pyrus
Apr 8 2015, 08:32 PM
It's never stated that they don't remember. I'm not sure where you got that from. There's no hint of that whatsoever. Each piece seems to recall exactly what happened.
You can't compare fusion to potara as fusion you two pieces become whole so each piece has a bit of memory of the new being but potara is actually a merger and goes far beyond fusion both in power and creating the new indivuial so the meachnics of potara are far different from the fusion dance meaning you can't use Goten trunks and gotenks as an example it's completley different.
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Apr 8 2015, 09:15 PM
Pyrus
Apr 8 2015, 08:32 PM
It's never stated that they don't remember. I'm not sure where you got that from. There's no hint of that whatsoever. Each piece seems to recall exactly what happened.
You can't compare fusion to potara as fusion you two pieces become whole so each piece has a bit of memory of the new being but potara is actually a merger and goes far beyond fusion both in power and creating the new indivuial so the meachnics of potara are far different from the fusion dance meaning you can't use Goten trunks and gotenks as an example it's completley different.
What in the.....

The only post-fusion differences between Dance and Potara are power and time, with one of them being infinite. They both create a new, completely unique individual.

I don't know what you're going on about, but nothing regarding memory differences were ever stated between the two.
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Hash basically shut that down. I don't know where that stuff came from either.
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Apr 8 2015, 09:26 PM
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Apr 8 2015, 09:15 PM
Pyrus
Apr 8 2015, 08:32 PM
It's never stated that they don't remember. I'm not sure where you got that from. There's no hint of that whatsoever. Each piece seems to recall exactly what happened.
You can't compare fusion to potara as fusion you two pieces become whole so each piece has a bit of memory of the new being but potara is actually a merger and goes far beyond fusion both in power and creating the new indivuial so the meachnics of potara are far different from the fusion dance meaning you can't use Goten trunks and gotenks as an example it's completley different.
What in the.....

The only post-fusion differences between Dance and Potara are power and time, with one of them being infinite. They both create a new, completely unique individual.

I don't know what you're going on about, but nothing regarding memory differences were ever stated between the two.
Their is nothing Implying that both of them work similarly they were created by new diffrent beings, one by the Kai's and other my an alien race and old Kai and their is no proof but fusions have the same affect on ther fuses memories.
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Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P6.2-6
Context: Elder Kaioshin gives the Potara to Goku
Elder Kaioshin: “Here! Put this Potara on your left ear! [ ] Put the other one on Gohan’s ear. Just by doing that, you two will be able to merge together! Like with Fusion.
Goku: “Huh! Re-really!?”
Elder Kaioshin: “Of course. And what’s more, the effect is greater than with Fusion! This has been the trump card treasure of the Kaioshins since long ago.”


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I have one question or maybe a couple.

When Goku said in GT, that Baby-Vegeta 1 was the greatest ki he ever felt, why would that statement include Vegetto from GT?

Are we all saying [or you] that Baby-Vegeta is stronger than Vegetto from GT as well?

In my opinion, just like with Elder Kaioshin when he said Vegetto was the strongest, I don't think his including hypothetical fusions, I think his only comparing to what is actually been felt or shown in the present time.

Besides Dragon Ball Multiverse, where else have you seen or heard of SSJ3 Vegetto?


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When Goku said in GT, that Baby-Vegeta 1 was the greatest ki he ever felt, why would that statement include Vegetto from GT?


I don't think it would.

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Are we all saying [or you] that Baby-Vegeta is stronger than Vegetto from GT as well?


Whoever does make such a claim better be ready to support it.

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Besides Dragon Ball Multiverse, where else have you seen or heard of SSJ3 Vegetto?


Nowhere, but that doesn't mean Vegetto couldn't do it if that's what you're implying.




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Apr 8 2015, 11:42 PM
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When Goku said in GT, that Baby-Vegeta 1 was the greatest ki he ever felt, why would that statement include Vegetto from GT?


I don't think it would.

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Are we all saying [or you] that Baby-Vegeta is stronger than Vegetto from GT as well?


Whoever does make such a claim better be ready to support it.

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Besides Dragon Ball Multiverse, where else have you seen or heard of SSJ3 Vegetto?


Nowhere, but that doesn't mean Vegetto couldn't do it if that's what you're implying.




Why do we or you guys automatically assume SSJ3 Vegetto is below Baby-Vegeta because Goku said Baby-Vegeta is the greatest ki he ever felt?



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Oddly, I don't consider SS3 Vegetto with Goku's comment. SS Vegetto is enough to satisfy the reqs.
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Apr 9 2015, 12:02 AM
Oddly, I don't consider SS3 Vegetto with Goku's comment. SS Vegetto is enough to satisfy the reqs.
Me too, I think Baby-Vegeta is above Super Vegetto, but not above any unseen or talked about forms.

If we allow ourselves the luxury to include forms that was never seen or talked about, then I'm afraid we leave ourselves open to include GT Vegetto in the mix as well.


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Exactly Pyrus! Why Goku wouldn't include Vegito since he was the strongest ever? Its GT after all, they wanted to make their characters beyond than Z.
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Well, according to Toei, SSj4 Gogeta is the strongest character yeah?

He far surpasses Omega which is above SSj4 Goku limits beyond.

How do we know SBV1 is even stronger than Gogeta from the same saga?
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Apr 11 2015, 11:53 PM


How do we know SBV1 is even stronger than Gogeta from the same saga?
There's no way he is. It took SBV1 to pass Z Vegetto. GT Base Goku > Boohan.

A Baby-Arc Gogeta would likely demolish SBV1 in Base.
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