Kid Goten(SS2) vs Super Android 13

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Kid Goten(SS2) vs Super Android 13
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Reimondo	Mar 6 2015, 11:45 AM Post #1
Posts: 291 Group: Member Member #11,282 Joined: May 1, 2014 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Chromo Favourite Manga Naruto	Can Goten beat him?



The Flash	Mar 6 2015, 11:58 AM Post #2
Posts: 181 Group: Member Member #12,082 Joined: February 23, 2015 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z, Claymore Favourite Manga DBZ , Claymore , Deadman Wonderland	Goten stomps. Super 13 is probably #16 tier so any SSJ2 wins easily.
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FutureSaiyan	Mar 6 2015, 01:02 PM Post #3
Posts: 924 Group: Member Member #11,997 Joined: January 18, 2015 Gender Male Country Australia Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Naruto, Bleach, AoT, Death Note, FMAB Favourite Manga DBZ	Goten Takes this with ease.



lazerbem	Mar 6 2015, 01:22 PM Post #4
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	SSJ is all that's needed
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FutureSaiyan	Mar 7 2015, 02:53 AM Post #5
Posts: 924 Group: Member Member #11,997 Joined: January 18, 2015 Gender Male Country Australia Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Naruto, Bleach, AoT, Death Note, FMAB Favourite Manga DBZ	lazerbem Mar 6 2015, 01:22 PM SSJ is all that's needed No, not at all. Super 13 is at the VERY MINIMUM equal to 17 & 18 which required both Goten and Trunks ss to even challenge 18. Now yes you can argue they weren't in ideal fighting circumstances but by the movie logic super 13 crushes Kamiccolo therefor technically crushing the droids. ss Goten isn't even equal with Android 18 (although some argue he is) let alone Super 13.



+ Pyrus	Mar 7 2015, 02:54 AM Post #6
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	FutureSaiyan Mar 7 2015, 02:53 AM lazerbem Mar 6 2015, 01:22 PM SSJ is all that's needed No, not at all. Super 13 is at the VERY MINIMUM equal to 17 & 18 which required both Goten and Trunks ss to even challenge 18. Now yes you can argue they weren't in ideal fighting circumstances but by the movie logic super 13 crushes Kamiccolo therefor technically crushing the droids. ss Goten isn't even equal with Android 18 (although some argue he is) let alone Super 13. He isn't equal to 18. He's far above her, along with Trunks. You've been around long enough, I would've figured you had caught onto that bit by now.
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Slifer	Mar 7 2015, 02:59 AM Post #7
Posts: 3,488 Group: Member Member #10,141 Joined: September 7, 2013	Yeah, SSJ2 is overkill. Goten one-shots as SSJ.



lazerbem	Mar 7 2015, 04:03 AM Post #8
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	FutureSaiyan Mar 7 2015, 02:53 AM lazerbem Mar 6 2015, 01:22 PM SSJ is all that's needed No, not at all. Super 13 is at the VERY MINIMUM equal to 17 & 18 which required both Goten and Trunks ss to even challenge 18. Now yes you can argue they weren't in ideal fighting circumstances but by the movie logic super 13 crushes Kamiccolo therefor technically crushing the droids. ss Goten isn't even equal with Android 18 (although some argue he is) let alone Super 13. Trunks's SSJ blast made 18 s*** herself. They were literally holding back and not trying to kill her. Also, Trunks tagged Vegeta. Yes, SSJ would be enough to smash Super 13 given that Goten should be at least ASSJ Vegeta(AT LEAST!) in SSJ.
	Crazy cat cults in the woods


+ Six Trails	Mar 7 2015, 04:29 AM Post #9
Posts: 1,570 Group: Elite Member Member #11,764 Joined: October 23, 2014 Gender Not Specified Country United States	One shot. SSJ is more than enough.



FutureSaiyan	Mar 7 2015, 04:49 AM Post #10
Posts: 924 Group: Member Member #11,997 Joined: January 18, 2015 Gender Male Country Australia Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Naruto, Bleach, AoT, Death Note, FMAB Favourite Manga DBZ	Pyrus Mar 7 2015, 02:54 AM FutureSaiyan Mar 7 2015, 02:53 AM lazerbem Mar 6 2015, 01:22 PM SSJ is all that's needed No, not at all. Super 13 is at the VERY MINIMUM equal to 17 & 18 which required both Goten and Trunks ss to even challenge 18. Now yes you can argue they weren't in ideal fighting circumstances but by the movie logic super 13 crushes Kamiccolo therefor technically crushing the droids. ss Goten isn't even equal with Android 18 (although some argue he is) let alone Super 13. He isn't equal to 18. He's far above her, along with Trunks. You've been around long enough, I would've figured you had caught onto that bit by now. i've been around enough to see your theories on the matter, this doesn't require me to agree now does it? You had already gotten me to the point of considering the boys 18's equal which was a huge step. I still don't see eye to eye with the boys being stronger however. Trunks' blast suprising 18 is nothing incredible. Goku's spirit bomb suprised frieza yet had little effect on him. Edited by FutureSaiyan, Mar 7 2015, 04:50 AM.



lazerbem	Mar 7 2015, 04:54 AM Post #11
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Freeza nearly died from the Spirit Bomb by his own admission. Also, Goku wasn't holding back when he tossed it a him, the boys were holding back when they fired a blast at 18. Also, the base kids are capable of trouncing Freeza tier opponents as seen in Tarble's special, their SSJ should be stronger than 18 based on that. Much stronger, considering that Trunks tagged a Cell Games level Vegeta and Goten made Gohan sweat Edited by lazerbem, Mar 7 2015, 04:55 AM.
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+ Six Trails	Mar 7 2015, 05:15 AM Post #12
Posts: 1,570 Group: Elite Member Member #11,764 Joined: October 23, 2014 Gender Not Specified Country United States	FutureSaiyan Mar 7 2015, 04:49 AM You had already gotten me to the point of considering the boys 18's equal which was a huge step. I still don't see eye to eye with the boys being stronger however. Trunks' blast suprising 18 is nothing incredible. Goku's spirit bomb suprised frieza yet had little effect on him. 18 just completely tanks Android arc Vegeta's blast, yet with Trunks' suppressed blast, she narrowly avoids it, compliments it's speed and power, and feels she needs to immediately end the match. The blast wasn't aimed near the stadium, so her worry is not for the audience, but herself. Not indicative of being "equal" with 18.



+ Pyrus	Mar 7 2015, 05:26 AM Post #13
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	FutureSaiyan Mar 7 2015, 04:49 AM Pyrus Mar 7 2015, 02:54 AM FutureSaiyan Mar 7 2015, 02:53 AM lazerbem Mar 6 2015, 01:22 PM SSJ is all that's needed No, not at all. Super 13 is at the VERY MINIMUM equal to 17 & 18 which required both Goten and Trunks ss to even challenge 18. Now yes you can argue they weren't in ideal fighting circumstances but by the movie logic super 13 crushes Kamiccolo therefor technically crushing the droids. ss Goten isn't even equal with Android 18 (although some argue he is) let alone Super 13. He isn't equal to 18. He's far above her, along with Trunks. You've been around long enough, I would've figured you had caught onto that bit by now. i've been around enough to see your theories on the matter, this doesn't require me to agree now does it? You had already gotten me to the point of considering the boys 18's equal which was a huge step. I still don't see eye to eye with the boys being stronger however. Trunks' blast suprising 18 is nothing incredible. Goku's spirit bomb suprised frieza yet had little effect on him. That's a rather frail example. We seem to be revisiting history. http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8766672&t=8418903
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FutureSaiyan	Mar 7 2015, 05:43 AM Post #14
Posts: 924 Group: Member Member #11,997 Joined: January 18, 2015 Gender Male Country Australia Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Naruto, Bleach, AoT, Death Note, FMAB Favourite Manga DBZ	Pyrus Mar 7 2015, 05:26 AM FutureSaiyan Mar 7 2015, 04:49 AM Pyrus Mar 7 2015, 02:54 AM FutureSaiyan Mar 7 2015, 02:53 AM lazerbem Mar 6 2015, 01:22 PM SSJ is all that's needed No, not at all. Super 13 is at the VERY MINIMUM equal to 17 & 18 which required both Goten and Trunks ss to even challenge 18. Now yes you can argue they weren't in ideal fighting circumstances but by the movie logic super 13 crushes Kamiccolo therefor technically crushing the droids. ss Goten isn't even equal with Android 18 (although some argue he is) let alone Super 13. He isn't equal to 18. He's far above her, along with Trunks. You've been around long enough, I would've figured you had caught onto that bit by now. i've been around enough to see your theories on the matter, this doesn't require me to agree now does it? You had already gotten me to the point of considering the boys 18's equal which was a huge step. I still don't see eye to eye with the boys being stronger however. Trunks' blast suprising 18 is nothing incredible. Goku's spirit bomb suprised frieza yet had little effect on him. That's a rather frail example. We seem to be revisiting history. http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=8766672&t=8418903 Hahaha this actually made me laugh, it was like one of those deja vu moments. fine i submit defeat again, upon re- reading your evidence i have been further swayed. However one part intrigued me, do you hold the boys pre rosat to be stronger than piccolo?



+ Six Trails	Mar 7 2015, 05:45 AM Post #15
Posts: 1,570 Group: Elite Member Member #11,764 Joined: October 23, 2014 Gender Not Specified Country United States	FutureSaiyan Mar 7 2015, 05:43 AM do you hold the boys pre rosat to be stronger than piccolo? Spoiler: click to toggle



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