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Bills vs SSj4 Goku (Baby-Saga)
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Topic Started: Mar 6 2015, 01:39 AM (4,727 Views)
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Mar 6 2015, 09:50 PM
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ssj4 goku destroys beerus easily.
ssj goku post god was near 70% of beerus's strength. all of the training that goku did after BOG would put him above beerus even before EOZ.
gt goku is much stronger than EOZ goku. ssj4 goku would humiliate him.
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Mar 6 2015, 11:00 PM
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ssj4 goku destroys beerus easily.
ssj goku post god was near 70% of beerus's strength. all of the training that goku did after BOG would put him above beerus even before EOZ.
gt goku is much stronger than EOZ goku. ssj4 goku would humiliate him.
Then why not opt for SSJG when it clearly gives such a large power boost?
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Mar 6 2015, 11:11 PM
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ssj4 goku destroys beerus easily.
ssj goku post god was near 70% of beerus's strength. all of the training that goku did after BOG would put him above beerus even before EOZ.
gt goku is much stronger than EOZ goku. ssj4 goku would humiliate him.
Then why not opt for SSJG when it clearly gives such a large power boost?
You're asking as if GT and BOG are one in the same.
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Mar 6 2015, 11:19 PM
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Goku strangles Beerus with his tail.
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Mar 7 2015, 12:43 AM
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ssj4 goku destroys beerus easily.
ssj goku post god was near 70% of beerus's strength. all of the training that goku did after BOG would put him above beerus even before EOZ.
gt goku is much stronger than EOZ goku. ssj4 goku would humiliate him.
Then why not opt for SSJG when it clearly gives such a large power boost?
You're asking as if GT and BOG are one in the same.
Lol, I know they aren't, which is why I asked Gogeta why they didn't use it. I don't see how BoG and GT connect despite evidence pointing otherwise. Besides, Frieza fighting without his other transformation is an anomaly in itself.
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Mar 7 2015, 02:44 AM
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- Mar 6 2015, 06:22 PM
B. SSJ3 Goku, at the very least, is above Ultimate Gohan.
Whoa... what evidence do you have to support such a claim?
Gohan was eons away from Goku in power, not easily achieved in a measly 3 years.
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Mar 7 2015, 02:46 AM
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B. SSJ3 Goku, at the very least, is above Ultimate Gohan.
Whoa... what evidence do you have to support such a claim? Gohan was eons away from Goku in power, not easily achieved in a measly 3 years.
I don't, really, but I'm sure someone here could manage something. I've seen it thrown around a few times.
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Mar 7 2015, 02:52 AM
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ssj4 goku destroys beerus easily.
ssj goku post god was near 70% of beerus's strength. all of the training that goku did after BOG would put him above beerus even before EOZ.
gt goku is much stronger than EOZ goku. ssj4 goku would humiliate him.
Then why not opt for SSJG when it clearly gives such a large power boost?
both an in-universe and out-of-universe explanation are possible in this case.
ssjg couldnt be used against baby vegeta for obvious reasons, everyone was too hurt to give energy when goku fought against super 17 and pan didnt give any energy when goku fought yi xing long.
an out of universe explanation is that the concept of ssjg was not invented at that time, but no event in gt contradicts the existence of ssjg. there were never at least 5 saiyans putting their energy into one individual saiyan.
goku isnt opting for ssjg in Fukkatsu no F, so your point is not a valid one. ssjg wouldnt have the same impact that it had the first time. goku already has god essence in him.
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Mar 7 2015, 09:33 AM
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ssj4 goku destroys beerus easily.
ssj goku post god was near 70% of beerus's strength. all of the training that goku did after BOG would put him above beerus even before EOZ.
gt goku is much stronger than EOZ goku. ssj4 goku would humiliate him.
Then why not opt for SSJG when it clearly gives such a large power boost?
both an in-universe and out-of-universe explanation are possible in this case. ssjg couldnt be used against baby vegeta for obvious reasons, everyone was too hurt to give energy when goku fought against super 17 and pan didnt give any energy when goku fought yi xing long. an out of universe explanation is that the concept of ssjg was not invented at that time, but no event in gt contradicts the existence of ssjg. there were never at least 5 saiyans putting their energy into one individual saiyan. goku isnt opting for ssjg in Fukkatsu no F, so your point is not a valid one. ssjg wouldnt have the same impact that it had the first time. goku already has god essence in him.
It can't be explained in-universe because Goku would have referenced beings superior to Vegito (Birusu, Whis and Frieza) after Baby's further evolutions. Unless of course Birusu and up are stronger than Baby.
I agree with the out-universe explanation but I'll look into that tomorrow.
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Mar 7 2015, 05:56 PM
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ssj4 goku destroys beerus easily.
ssj goku post god was near 70% of beerus's strength. all of the training that goku did after BOG would put him above beerus even before EOZ.
gt goku is much stronger than EOZ goku. ssj4 goku would humiliate him.
Then why not opt for SSJG when it clearly gives such a large power boost?
both an in-universe and out-of-universe explanation are possible in this case. ssjg couldnt be used against baby vegeta for obvious reasons, everyone was too hurt to give energy when goku fought against super 17 and pan didnt give any energy when goku fought yi xing long. an out of universe explanation is that the concept of ssjg was not invented at that time, but no event in gt contradicts the existence of ssjg. there were never at least 5 saiyans putting their energy into one individual saiyan. goku isnt opting for ssjg in Fukkatsu no F, so your point is not a valid one. ssjg wouldnt have the same impact that it had the first time. goku already has god essence in him.
It can't be explained in-universe because Goku would have referenced beings superior to Vegito (Birusu, Whis and Frieza) after Baby's further evolutions. Unless of course Birusu and up are stronger than Baby. I agree with the out-universe explanation but I'll look into that tomorrow.
what proof do you have that goku had vegito in mind? he didnt even say his name.
beerus, whis and frieza are superior to vegito. using an in universe explanation, goku saying that baby vegeta is the greatest ki that has nothing to do with vegito. baby being the greatest ki that he has ever felt puts baby above fighters like beerus, whis and frieza whom are all superior to vegito.
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Mar 7 2015, 06:18 PM
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I don't think Goku knows how to pay bills so the bills win.
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ssj4 goku destroys beerus easily.
ssj goku post god was near 70% of beerus's strength. all of the training that goku did after BOG would put him above beerus even before EOZ.
gt goku is much stronger than EOZ goku. ssj4 goku would humiliate him.
Then why not opt for SSJG when it clearly gives such a large power boost?
both an in-universe and out-of-universe explanation are possible in this case. ssjg couldnt be used against baby vegeta for obvious reasons, everyone was too hurt to give energy when goku fought against super 17 and pan didnt give any energy when goku fought yi xing long. an out of universe explanation is that the concept of ssjg was not invented at that time, but no event in gt contradicts the existence of ssjg. there were never at least 5 saiyans putting their energy into one individual saiyan. goku isnt opting for ssjg in Fukkatsu no F, so your point is not a valid one. ssjg wouldnt have the same impact that it had the first time. goku already has god essence in him.
It can't be explained in-universe because Goku would have referenced beings superior to Vegito (Birusu, Whis and Frieza) after Baby's further evolutions. Unless of course Birusu and up are stronger than Baby. I agree with the out-universe explanation but I'll look into that tomorrow.
what proof do you have that goku had vegito in mind? he didnt even say his name. beerus, whis and frieza are superior to vegito. using an in universe explanation, goku saying that baby vegeta is the greatest ki that has nothing to do with vegito. baby being the greatest ki that he has ever felt puts baby above fighters like beerus, whis and frieza whom are all superior to vegito.
Why would goku have the weaker method of fusion in mind? Why make it more complex? I have read anything above so I may have missed something
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Mar 7 2015, 06:47 PM
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Bills is even slightly stronger than Gogeta SSJ4, so Bills wins easily.
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ssj4 goku destroys beerus easily.
ssj goku post god was near 70% of beerus's strength. all of the training that goku did after BOG would put him above beerus even before EOZ.
gt goku is much stronger than EOZ goku. ssj4 goku would humiliate him.
Then why not opt for SSJG when it clearly gives such a large power boost?
both an in-universe and out-of-universe explanation are possible in this case. ssjg couldnt be used against baby vegeta for obvious reasons, everyone was too hurt to give energy when goku fought against super 17 and pan didnt give any energy when goku fought yi xing long. an out of universe explanation is that the concept of ssjg was not invented at that time, but no event in gt contradicts the existence of ssjg. there were never at least 5 saiyans putting their energy into one individual saiyan. goku isnt opting for ssjg in Fukkatsu no F, so your point is not a valid one. ssjg wouldnt have the same impact that it had the first time. goku already has god essence in him.
It can't be explained in-universe because Goku would have referenced beings superior to Vegito (Birusu, Whis and Frieza) after Baby's further evolutions. Unless of course Birusu and up are stronger than Baby. I agree with the out-universe explanation but I'll look into that tomorrow.
what proof do you have that goku had vegito in mind? he didnt even say his name. beerus, whis and frieza are superior to vegito. using an in universe explanation, goku saying that baby vegeta is the greatest ki that has nothing to do with vegito. baby being the greatest ki that he has ever felt puts baby above fighters like beerus, whis and frieza whom are all superior to vegito.
In-universe Ki isn't the same as Godly Ki so Goku could have only reference Ki in general (the power they use normally) since he didn't say Godly Ki. And if I'm not mistaken, Godly Ki was made out to be different in regards to standard Ki.
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ssj4 goku destroys beerus easily.
ssj goku post god was near 70% of beerus's strength. all of the training that goku did after BOG would put him above beerus even before EOZ.
gt goku is much stronger than EOZ goku. ssj4 goku would humiliate him.
you know Eoz has nothing to do with BoG and the upcoming movie.
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